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hey nod, how ya doing bud.
ya sound good reading your post.
nice to read your postings.
i hope everything is going good for
you and yours.
peace!!!!!!!!michael/hippy
ya sound good reading your post.
nice to read your postings.
i hope everything is going good for
you and yours.
peace!!!!!!!!michael/hippy
finkboy,
Was I saying you have a great family, and I'm fortunate to have the same. I feel the same about having some making up to do.
One thing you said really made me think an aweful lot. You said... "run the tape to the end and see what happens." That line has been on my mind since I read it. The end of the show has the same ending. Sure gave me some motivation to pop that tape out and put in a new one! One where anything can happen that I produce, direct and star in! Thanks!
Keep up the good work! Nod
Was I saying you have a great family, and I'm fortunate to have the same. I feel the same about having some making up to do.
One thing you said really made me think an aweful lot. You said... "run the tape to the end and see what happens." That line has been on my mind since I read it. The end of the show has the same ending. Sure gave me some motivation to pop that tape out and put in a new one! One where anything can happen that I produce, direct and star in! Thanks!
Keep up the good work! Nod
Hey Everyone!!
I am at work and feeling great. Good to get out of the house and focus on life and the task of living. That way I have less time to think about bad stuff. Idle hands blah, blah, blah.
I am the IT guy for a city in No Cal and have had people lined up outside my office all morning wanting stuff. I haven't killed or pimp slapped anybody (yet...) It feels good to look people in the eye and not wonder if they are on to my dirty little secret. I am a lot more productive too. Go figure...
There are a couple of other guys who work for thr City and are in recovery. We are going to have our own brown bag sessions at lunch!!
And to the guy who said I have an awesome family - you are most correct sir. And they were the ones that bore the brunt of my illness. I will make it up to them - I'm sure those Giants/Dodgers primo tickets I just scored will help :)
Thanks again for everything- now back to work!
I am at work and feeling great. Good to get out of the house and focus on life and the task of living. That way I have less time to think about bad stuff. Idle hands blah, blah, blah.
I am the IT guy for a city in No Cal and have had people lined up outside my office all morning wanting stuff. I haven't killed or pimp slapped anybody (yet...) It feels good to look people in the eye and not wonder if they are on to my dirty little secret. I am a lot more productive too. Go figure...
There are a couple of other guys who work for thr City and are in recovery. We are going to have our own brown bag sessions at lunch!!
And to the guy who said I have an awesome family - you are most correct sir. And they were the ones that bore the brunt of my illness. I will make it up to them - I'm sure those Giants/Dodgers primo tickets I just scored will help :)
Thanks again for everything- now back to work!
It's unusual for Imitrex not to work on real migraines. Are you sure they're true migraine headaches as opposed to tension headaches?
Many people get "rebound" headaches when they discontinue or drastically cut down on opiates.
You may have to embrace some non-drug therapies for headaches. I know what works for me: a hot shower with the stream running down my head and neck; reclining with an ice pack on my forehead.
Thomas
Many people get "rebound" headaches when they discontinue or drastically cut down on opiates.
You may have to embrace some non-drug therapies for headaches. I know what works for me: a hot shower with the stream running down my head and neck; reclining with an ice pack on my forehead.
Thomas
Just got off the phone with my regular provider, and we will work as a team with the folks over at the CDU. He mentioned an Imitrex like substitute as well as Fioricet (in small quantities) if other options fail.
I am starting to feel like a human again, both physically and mentally. The urge to use and depression creep in and out of my brain. That's where the meetings come in handy. It will be interesting to see how work goes tomorrow without my crutch.
Again, I appreciate your support; it means a great deal to me.
Any opinions on the Fioricet? It is not a synthetic opiate, but I understand there is still potential for abuse.
I am starting to feel like a human again, both physically and mentally. The urge to use and depression creep in and out of my brain. That's where the meetings come in handy. It will be interesting to see how work goes tomorrow without my crutch.
Again, I appreciate your support; it means a great deal to me.
Any opinions on the Fioricet? It is not a synthetic opiate, but I understand there is still potential for abuse.
Congratulations on your success, I've been around the forum for about 6 months now and the members here helped me through the tough times your going through now.
I to have a legit pain problem besides the fact I've been getting high in some form for around 28 years (43 yrs. old now) and liked it. Then about 10 years ago Vicoden ES appeared, whow, could not smell it on you, did not have to worry about drug test at work etc. I thought I had found my purple haze for life. Wrong, before long instead of taking them for the physical pain, I was taking them for the daily pain of life.
This forum helped me realize if I wanted to keep the good family and job I have I better get my **** together. You have to learn to "use and not abuse" if you have legit long term pain. I will be on some form of pain med for life, checking in and reading this forum is what helps me "use and not abuse" like I use to.
Good luck, keep posting and thanks to all of the members here for helping all us addicts survive!
teeitup!
I to have a legit pain problem besides the fact I've been getting high in some form for around 28 years (43 yrs. old now) and liked it. Then about 10 years ago Vicoden ES appeared, whow, could not smell it on you, did not have to worry about drug test at work etc. I thought I had found my purple haze for life. Wrong, before long instead of taking them for the physical pain, I was taking them for the daily pain of life.
This forum helped me realize if I wanted to keep the good family and job I have I better get my **** together. You have to learn to "use and not abuse" if you have legit long term pain. I will be on some form of pain med for life, checking in and reading this forum is what helps me "use and not abuse" like I use to.
Good luck, keep posting and thanks to all of the members here for helping all us addicts survive!
teeitup!
Great job on the soon to be 5 days. Sounds like you have one great wife, kids, family. I know the depression was worse than the physical WD's for me. It's like your best friend died and you will never see them again. Your not alone with your feelings and cravings and thoughts. It's all part of your mind dealing with the loss. Hang in there, they will slowly fade over time but unfortunately not completely, that's the battle to fight from here on out. You will be amazed at how clear your head feels everyday now, and how clearly you'll be able to think. Keep up the good work, finkboy!
Nod
Nod
Now that I am unable to administer Percocet to myself, what do I do for legitimate Migraine headache pain (Well documented for over 10 years)
Are there other meds to try? (I've done imitrex, fioricet, darvocet etc...) Nothing worked like percs.
Do I get them from the hospotal on an as needed basis? Do I live with the pain?
Any ideas?
Are there other meds to try? (I've done imitrex, fioricet, darvocet etc...) Nothing worked like percs.
Do I get them from the hospotal on an as needed basis? Do I live with the pain?
Any ideas?
Does your wife kick you under the table when you say something ya shouldn't have? My husband does that to me. i am so happy that you still read this forum even though you have a lot of clean time. You and Peazy cause we all benefit from your honesty and Peazy humor. Thanks. Pamela
It was just a question I couldn't find anywhere else.. so instead of being ignorant because you don't know it, you could have said, sorry i dont know.
Dude you should be proud! You are doing so good. You are in the middle of the mental part though, and that is tough! Try to distract yourself from the thoughts of scoring. Lean on the ones you love and your groups they will help. At your stage of withdrawal severe headaches are common. They are called rebound headaches and they are a *****! The allways come right when the RLS is starting to go away and when the depression is still with you. Take some extra strength headache over the counter medicine and that should help. Fight the good fight bro! Pamela
I had to call in sick today (yesterday was a government holiday) because the thought of having to deal with all that made me ill.
Now, on to the real problems: my new freinds depression and Mr. Score again. I mean how sick is that?!?! Feeling like life is not worth living without my little pills. Physically I am doing better, but I dream about those pills and think of new and inventive ways to score them.
I should be elated since I am over the hump. Do the cravings subside? Shouldn't my wife and kids be enough to keep me from going down that path again? In both groups I was in yesterday, they said to play out the tape to the end. I admit, it is never a pretty ending. Have I just lost my skills to cope without opiates coarsing through my veins?
I **** you not, I was already looking at those mexican pharmacies on line (stupid) and even looked for percocet on e-bay (even more stupid, if possible)
Now I have one of my "killer" headaches, and nothing to take for it since I abused my right to administer meds to myself. I know I should feel proud of coming this far, but there is a part of me that wished I would have said nothing and allowed that tape to play itself out. Shoot, I was only up to 5-8 a day right? All my liver tests came back normal, so there was room to manuever.
Ahhh the mind of an addict. Thoughts anyone?
Now, on to the real problems: my new freinds depression and Mr. Score again. I mean how sick is that?!?! Feeling like life is not worth living without my little pills. Physically I am doing better, but I dream about those pills and think of new and inventive ways to score them.
I should be elated since I am over the hump. Do the cravings subside? Shouldn't my wife and kids be enough to keep me from going down that path again? In both groups I was in yesterday, they said to play out the tape to the end. I admit, it is never a pretty ending. Have I just lost my skills to cope without opiates coarsing through my veins?
I **** you not, I was already looking at those mexican pharmacies on line (stupid) and even looked for percocet on e-bay (even more stupid, if possible)
Now I have one of my "killer" headaches, and nothing to take for it since I abused my right to administer meds to myself. I know I should feel proud of coming this far, but there is a part of me that wished I would have said nothing and allowed that tape to play itself out. Shoot, I was only up to 5-8 a day right? All my liver tests came back normal, so there was room to manuever.
Ahhh the mind of an addict. Thoughts anyone?
Fink,
Congrats Buddy. You have made it through some of the toughest days and NIGHTS. I will say though Day 4&5 were the toughest for me. After that it was ALL UP HILL.
That is when I started realizing it was over and I was on my way.
I finally felt FREE at that point...
Congrats and know it just gets easier from here on out.
Regards,
Chezz
Congrats Buddy. You have made it through some of the toughest days and NIGHTS. I will say though Day 4&5 were the toughest for me. After that it was ALL UP HILL.
That is when I started realizing it was over and I was on my way.
I finally felt FREE at that point...
Congrats and know it just gets easier from here on out.
Regards,
Chezz
Yes, i want to echo Pams' congrats!!! Just even take it minute at a time, if you have to.
I remember exactly day 3-4, vibrating on our couch....completely incapacitated(after dragging myself out of the hot-tub for the 30th time in 3 days), watching my wife and two lit'l ones doing crafts at the kitchen table, thinking how lucky i was to have a wife that was/is so supportive......cause after all, she was doing all the "work". Well doesn't it turn out that they were making daddy a get well card, with outlines of each of their hands cut out and pasted on the card, plus a bunch of hearts!!!
Right then, i knew i could make it( i still have the card here at work). It was a mother f&*ker for sure, but WAS IT EVER WORTH IT.....
So finkboy, use your "get well card" in whatever form it is in(maybe the posts from your friends here at the forum), cause you can make it too!!!
Hang In There Friend!!
percs(no more)
I remember exactly day 3-4, vibrating on our couch....completely incapacitated(after dragging myself out of the hot-tub for the 30th time in 3 days), watching my wife and two lit'l ones doing crafts at the kitchen table, thinking how lucky i was to have a wife that was/is so supportive......cause after all, she was doing all the "work". Well doesn't it turn out that they were making daddy a get well card, with outlines of each of their hands cut out and pasted on the card, plus a bunch of hearts!!!
Right then, i knew i could make it( i still have the card here at work). It was a mother f&*ker for sure, but WAS IT EVER WORTH IT.....
So finkboy, use your "get well card" in whatever form it is in(maybe the posts from your friends here at the forum), cause you can make it too!!!
Hang In There Friend!!
percs(no more)
I agree Chezz2, and since this thread is already toast, allow me to hijack it. I ingeseted my last dose of Percs on Friday at around 4:00pm. and this is the first time I have been able to be upright long enoug to even thing about posting.
What a ***** this experience has been! I still can't think clearly enough to put it into words. The sad thing is, if I had a pile of percs in front of me, I would hop on that train and not look back.
On the other hand, there seems to be a clarity emerging that I have not experienced in quite some time. I have to hold on to that and realize that I can never be a casual or normal user.
I have a "Pill Group" today at 10 and then a session with a therapist at 4. Somehow there is an emptiness, like you just lost your best friend. How will I be able to face the day without being all doped up? I guess thats' where the one day at a time thing comes in handy. The only thing I can do is worry about NOW and take it from there.
P.S. Can you really score on line from those Mexican pharmacies? :) JUST KIDDING
What a ***** this experience has been! I still can't think clearly enough to put it into words. The sad thing is, if I had a pile of percs in front of me, I would hop on that train and not look back.
On the other hand, there seems to be a clarity emerging that I have not experienced in quite some time. I have to hold on to that and realize that I can never be a casual or normal user.
I have a "Pill Group" today at 10 and then a session with a therapist at 4. Somehow there is an emptiness, like you just lost your best friend. How will I be able to face the day without being all doped up? I guess thats' where the one day at a time thing comes in handy. The only thing I can do is worry about NOW and take it from there.
P.S. Can you really score on line from those Mexican pharmacies? :) JUST KIDDING
Thanks for the encouragement! The pill group is through Kaiser. For those of you who have Kaiser available as an option, I highly suggest you look into their CDP unit. They are warm, caring and compassionate.
I still feel like my nerve endings are exposed. A little shaky and dizzy too.
I still feel like my nerve endings are exposed. A little shaky and dizzy too.
You are lucky to have a pill group. I assume that is an NA proup for pillheads? I have suggested starting one in my town to help all of the people I know who have been affected one way or another by pills.
WOW! Since 4:00PM Friday no pills huh? Very good dude! You are well into day three. Awesome! Now is the hard part but keep telling yourself you are almost there. Day four is a tough one. I hope you got the L-Tyrosine because that will help lift the "brian fog" that will set in.
I want to be the first to congratulate you on a great acommplishment! Well done bro! Pammy
WOW! Since 4:00PM Friday no pills huh? Very good dude! You are well into day three. Awesome! Now is the hard part but keep telling yourself you are almost there. Day four is a tough one. I hope you got the L-Tyrosine because that will help lift the "brian fog" that will set in.
I want to be the first to congratulate you on a great acommplishment! Well done bro! Pammy
You feel like your "hair" hurts? Been there done that! Good luck to you and you will feel better soon! Post later and let us know how your group and counseling session went! Pammy
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