my success with rapid opiod withdrawl procedure

[Tom86]

  I hate to see you get where I was 2 weeks ago. Lost everything to a 150mg percocet habit a day.  you have basically  choices.  Cold turkey expect nast withdrawls from that high of a dose.  replacement therepy going on methadone or subuxone and tapering slowly.  expect to be on methadone min 2 years daily about 10 dollars a day.  suboxone is a very powerfull opiod pain killer that they say cant be abused but it sure made me high.  It could work for you.  I just went thru Dr Thomas Yee in Las vegas advanced rapid detox.  pricey yes but I had zero withdrawls. he is a anisthesioligsts (spelling) legit in a hospital  i got past the hardest part the physical pain from withdrawls and recieved vivatrol im injection to keep my mind from cheating.  its not a scam  It was one on one personilized and first class all the way.  a lot of famous people or people who dont want to let the cat out of the bag use him.  he is a very smart man.  I was skeptical but it has saved my life and I feel great today and really the first day after  contact me or feel free il give u my number and we can talk  iman actual pt.  
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[Free2agoodhome]

Is there anything you learned from the detox that can help me detox easier...I dont have that kind of moneyto go to him....like a supplement or anything you learned?  id love any advice ..im in the planning /taper stage,..big step for me

[Tom86]

Thanks for all the encouragement.  I know I still have a long road ahead of me.  

[akitagurl12]

hi Tom, i will admit i would have totally tried that procedure too, I even looked into it at one point, but it was way too expensive and insurance didn't cover it.  Looking back now though i think i needed to go thru w/ds to help me stay motivated to stay sober.  But all that is important is that you are tackling this addiction. Maybe for u, the money u spent for it will be your motivation to stay clean.  Thanks for sharing, you are the first person i have heard that actually ever tried that.  

[minn66]

I have been watching this thread since Tom first posted. I believe each of us must do what we can to heal. Some of us have to detox at home because we have no choice. Others of us need inpatient care. If this particular program worked for Tom then that is great! What we all need to realize, though, is that regardless of whether we took a flight, drove, or walked, we all have the same destination, which is sobriety. We need to guard that sobriety. Making it past the withdrawal is only a part of the process. As long as we make it and continue with aftercare then I say that's all that matters. JMHO

[onthefence]

I am glad it worked for you, the thing is some of us have lived less than desirable financial lives, for example the documentary "black tar heroin : The dark end of the street" ppl in these situations don't have the resources for food much less rehab or rapid detox!
I am on day 41 or 40 (i don't dwell on it) from 200 mg. a day supplemented with heroin and methadone when sick and hit rock bottom financially, 100% my own fault! but ppl like me need hope too, and detox can be done at home, and like ppl above have said after acute w/d there will always be the mind f&*^k of wanting something to escape, the life that one has made for ones self, but it can and will get better, Life is what ya make it!!!
I count myself lucky that I never had that kind of money 12,000 cuz i'd be dead of od long before i spent it on rapid detox!
R.I.P. Layne Staley & Mike Starr (Starkey).

[marycarmel]

I'm happy it worked for you and you were able to do it.  If it worked for you, that's what counts.  As with everything, everyone should do their own research and make their own best decisions.  

[Tom86]

Yes I understand that after the injections and for the rest of my life I will be an addict.  The studies show that the longer you stay sober the less likely youn are to relaps.  I know that relaps usually happens when you think things are going well so I have to continue to get support for the rest of my life.  I can only answer for what I went through.  I did the rapid detox and did not have any physical withdrawl symptoms.  Mental withdrawl yes.  Still ongoing.  I have seen horror stories with rapid detox.  I can tell you that this is the only thing that has gotten me this far.  I am very thankful for that.  I guess Im a bad enough of an addict that I need to be put on naltrexone injections to stop.  IDK.  As for the money I have no insurance.  The 30 day inpatient was almost 10,000.00.  I looked at other options.  I really hate that people are so hatefull about this.  Im not trying to sell it.  I just wanted to let people know what has worked for me.  I know its not for everyone

[steve1220]

well said !!!!:))

[gnarly_1]

Tom over time you will find staying clean much harder then getting clean soner or later your not going to get the injections and will be on your own use this time to treat the diseasewith some form of aftercare our you will be using again addiction dosent go away just becace your detoxed its roots run deeper then that plug into N/A or other support groop and work threw to the root causes of why you used in the first place you got a fighting cance if you do that......Gnatly

[Sjoggie]

I did Rapid Detox.  I was in a hospital situation, thankfully.

I bought into the you will wake up feeling fine and  quick results.  I was promised I would be ok to fly back home 6 days later and really should be fine much sooner.

I won't go into all of it but I was sick.  I spent tons of money to effectively be thrown in instant withdrawal.  Yes, they threw drugs at me to knock me out part of the time.  Considering I was worried about this even though they promised I would be feeling great to fly home  I added on a couple of days which was a good thing.  I could never have flown home early and barely made it as it was.

When I got home my doc gave me on meds to help me survive the detox.  I was so cold.  I don't really want to relive that time.

Dangerous, I think so.  Withdrawal free, I don't think so.  At least not for me.

Expensive, you bet.  I could have used that money elsewhere.

The people I talked with who had supposedly gone through the process, I met one of them and his story changed.  He forgot which one he was selling me I guess.

So, if anyone were to choose this I would have a few recommendations.  First, do make sure it is in a hospital, second, make sure someone can and will have access to you so they can see if you need to get help.  Third, I really have problems with the no withdrawal part.  Nurses there told me that withdrawal was to be expected but I actually did better than most others.

Check and double check to the best of your ability to see about deaths.  It depends on the state as to how much you can really find out.

I really think if this was such a great thing that it would be used much more and you would be able to find it everywhere.  

Research, research, although, my research didn't tell me what I really needed to know.  And I did the best I could.

My experience only.  You know if it sounds to good to be true......

[Tom86]

Steve,  as I have said before.  This is the most aggressive way to attack this problem.  Did I want to spend that kind of money? Ofcourse not.  But Ive been in active addiction for 17 years.  I tried everything except for methadone.  Yes Ife been through hell and back with the withdrawls.  Lets face the fact that most users are wanting to stopusing.  Whats the number one thing they are afraid of.  Its being dope sick.   So I took that part away.  I see it as getting a huge jump on this problem.  Not cheating.  If you see it as cheating you have that right.  I can only tell you that with this procedure that il be 30 days clean on tuesday.  It has worked the best for me so far.  Im not knocking you or your beliefs I just want people to know that this option is out there and it has saved my life so far.  

[littlebit667]

We all have to do what works.  Some of us can pay and others cannot.  Judging you is wrong.  I am glad it works and hope that you do well.  Getting aftercare is wonderful.  Will you be able to stop the injections say in a year or so??  Keep up the good work.  You walked into it with eyes open and that is all any of us can do.

[steve1220]

tom good for you brother i was on double oxys what you were on i went c/t 15 days ago and saved myself thousands of dollars !!!you must have lots of money to waste of mabey you just couldn't go through the hell like soooo many of us brave souls have !!! next time you talk to your dr feelgood tell him he's not getting none of my money !!!! nuf said

[Tom86]

Im checking in.  Day 22 clean.  I am in full attendance in an IOP program and attempting to do 90 NA meetings in 90 days.  I found a great sponser and we are talking many times a day.  My body feels great.  I really have not had any physical withdrawl symptoms and I am sleeping thruogh the night.  Im having difficulty getting motivated to get doing things and have mood swings but expect that for a while.  My brain is healing.  I go get another Vivatrol injection next week.  I feel like I have a real chance this time.  Tom

[Tom86]

thanks  its worked for we well

[rizboy]

i think its horses for courses,whatever works for one person may not work for another,if you are clean thats all that matters,good for you

[dominosarah]

I am and always will be a work in progress.  The cravings will become less and less as time goes by but always remember to keep your guard up.  We never know when a craving will hit.  Sometimes they happen when life is going good.  The important thing is to talk about it when it happens.  Using is not an option on any day that ends with Y....

[Tom86]

thanks thats great advice.   I like the saying we walk thru it now  im going to use that at my next group  I understand we all want to stay clean  each of us have different ways of doing it  i wish i was as strong as you are with this  with the naltrexone in my system it takes up those receptor sites and relieves the cravings  but even with that 10 days clean (early soberity i know) i still find myself wanting to get a hold of some percs  it just goes to show me that my mind has a long way to go  thanks and good luck   stay strong

[dominosarah]

I understand that death grip.  I am glad you were successful with the way you went and you do have a good plan in place.  I too told all healthcare professionals that i was a recovering addict and to not give me any pain meds.  I had to do that for me and it feels good to be upfront and honest with them all.  Continue with your IOP.  Face your demons and feel the emotions that come with that.  We walk thru it now, not around it.

[Tom86]

i realize that.  I dont know much about you.  for example your daily useage drug of choice, route of admin ect.  but I do know that everyone is different.  and everyone has their reasons to stop using.  im very happy and proud of  you for stopping  however you do it isnt easy.  My situation was that ive lost everything and everyones trust in me.  and legal trouble.  i decided to take the most agressive step to get this control.  every other way i tried i failed over and over.  id do good for a ly wowhile and then woops its back in my life.  part of my problem is i have money  while some say that is good its a bad thing for an addict with a 300 to 500 per day habbit .  i have so much guilt and shame over how much money i swallowed in pills just to feel normal for the past year.  12000 dollars is a lot but if i didnt do something drastic i would have spent that very quickly.  there is an science to opiod addiction  what would i have turned to to feed my habbit?  steeling? heroin?  it doesnt get better  only worse i looked closely at what this program offered and it wasnt only about the withdrawl  the vivatrol injection was something i never wanted to have.   it stays in your system and can not be removed  its there when you fall and blocks the effects of the opiates.  so i know its there always to keep me on track.  this was the most effective/invasive therepy available and that is what i need to stay clean.  many people have researched this procedure and dont agree because of the risks of death.  the dr i used has no incidents from 400 patients  it was preformed by a board certified anithesiasists in an actual or  not a clinic  im very happy you were able to do it for cheaper on ur own.  my disease holds my life in its hands  my next step was death in my opinion   i believe I made the right choice and i cand believe how good i feel physicially  now emotionally i catch myself depressed a bit and i need counciling which im taking now  im trying to do everything possible to close the doors so they cant be reopened.  ive gone to every pharmacy and told them about my issue and had them put it on file no more meds  also stopedby dr offices and clinics  any one that could possible give me pain meds  im trying to be positive about this  I think im doing the right thing  an suggestions would be appreciated  thanks  tom

[dominosarah]

12,000.00?? Really??  Nothing like taking advantage of an addict.  My wd cost me around 15.00.  I got some Ester C,B-6 and B-12.  Many of us barely had 12 cents to our name when we stopped.  

[Tom86]

yes I was positive this was in an actual OR.  I confirmed it.  maybe some of the bad raps come from some of them that were preformed in a dr office.  that is scary.  and I spoke directly to the dr. and checked his credentials and for and scam reports.  he is the real deal.  I was treated like a king for 3 days that i was there.  but your right. addicts usually are not a high priority.  this dr is passionate about this.  his success rates are very high after a year. good luck to you   i know its hard.  its the hardest thing ive ever had to deal with.  my diseaseis always with me.  but im learning how to deal with that.  someone told me that it never gets better.  but I get better with it

[Missylkg]

I,d read about clinics doing what almost sounded like clinic based rapid detox and i was horrified. However your account is at the other end of that and thats how it should be. Addicts get the rough end of the stick....not enough research, often little option and that is dependent on the knowledge and attitude of the professional that we are dealing with. I agree we all find our own path, the one thing we all agree on is joining together and supporting ourselves and other addicts to break free and stay clean....

Good luck :)

[Tom86]

No its just for opiods.  it does nothing for the benzos  if you want to messase me il give u the phone number and the website  12,000.00