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my wife is smoking pain pills. help

my wife has been smoking pain pills for about a month.  she says it was not everyday.  she says she will stop right away but i don't know how i can trust her anymore.  lost of lieing, sneeking around, and did not even admit it when i confronted her with the tin foil she used to smoke them in the trash.  a day later she admitted to me what she was doing.  she does everything she can to blam me for anything to direct the attention off of her.  i want to help her get clean and stay clean but i don't even know were to start.  can anyone give me some good advice?  what to look for?  how to really help her get better?
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Just realized this was a way old post that got bumped up somehow. But good topic anyway!
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Read and reread what silent no wrote. Seems like you've got an addicted wife, which was me too. If she puts up a fight and denies it, she is lying. If she folds and admits and gets real sweet, she is lying to you to appease u so I let up. Your choice is to stay and  accept it, stay and make her make some hard choices or leave and take your child. You can't stop her unless she wants it for herself. You can help her if she asks and is willing to work for it but there is no night in shining armour for us addicts u till WE hit our own bottom. Your leaving may force the issue and may save her life. But don't do the yo-yo thing cuz addicts are crafty and maninupulative and will be what you want us to be in order to keep doig what we want. You have some hard choices to make.
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Yea I watched someone smoke Oxys with foil before.
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8976007 tn?1413330650
you say you are currently smoking oxy's?  are they the ones that say 'OP' on one side?
you are really risking your life with those.  they contain toxins that are not even allowed in other countries and it will destroy your lungs.
also they do not seem to be as potent, but they do contain the same amount of oxy in them so you could easily od
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Good afternoon. I have been smoking my oxys off and on (back on at the moment) and really need to stop for good this time. I can blow through my script in less than a week. I have had several back surgeries, and have horrible nerve pain in my leg. The Dr has just kept increasing my script slowly over time, and I just cannot get enough. I am wondering if anyone has the O/D stats for ppl using them this way. I fear that I am headed in that direction, but really am not sure how to ask for help.... this is the first time that I have. I don't want to end up in jail, or worse, dead. I am a father, and love my kids more than anything in the world. It's hard to even see how I got to this point, but here I am and I HATE IT. Any advice on getting the ball rolling??? Could really use some positive encouraging help, I already know that I am a POS for letting it get this bad... just wondering how to stop?!
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Please don't threaten to leave her. Not unless you are willing to do so. My husband had an addiction to Alcohol & Methamphetamine. I gave him two months notice that he had two months to go to AA etc. Well two months came up on Thanksgiving. I told him I couldn't take this anymore, that it is over. He did a count down list asking me questions. I had tossed the dogs heavy duty leash on the couch next to him when I sat down in the chair to listen to his questions for me. His questions - No hope for us to work it out? Don't want to see a marriage councelor? etc. Last thing I said to him I can't do this right now, I'll be right back had to take daughter in law to work. I said to him "Just hang out here til I'll be back in about 10 mins." I left, I didn't come right back I came back 30 minutes later. I found him hanging. So please be very careful what you say to your wife. I would get a professional to come to the house to speak with her with you there and then alone with you not there. Something that she won't feel cornered or hopeless. Good luck to you, I wish I would have thought of this before I did it all on my own. Blessings, Gypsy.
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"way up the ladder"? the internet seriously disturbs me. firstly, SMOKING pills is the most ineffective way anyone could hope to waste a pharmaceutical. different drugs have different administration routes for a reason. the strongest ROA for a prescription opiate would be to shoot it up intravenously (if the pill was pure enough to do so - see: free of binders, etc) and next would be to insufflate it (pills that can be shot can be snorted) and then we have the old up the *** routine. rectal lining is a faster and stronger ROA than sublingual (see: held under tongue) which generally stronger than parachuting (crushed up pill wrapped in tissue, swallowed), however parachuting is a good alternative to sublingual ROA when the pill is not made to be taken any other way but swallowed. which brings me to my point. swallowing. simply swallowing a pill is a more effective route of administration than 'smoking' it.  

my guess is the people who smoke their pills want to graduate to more powerful or dirty drugs and are therefore playing with ROA like a toddler plays with their food. which is embarrassing and stupid, and gives all us self-respecting drug users who knew how to use google even when they first starting experimenting, a bad name.

You should be more concerned about how dumb one has to be to smoke pills than the actual act itself.

Jesus Christ.
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I went from taking them 10s Watson 510's to 15's to 30s then smoked them 2 times didn't like it that much but tried it again with a whole one and I was ****** let me reword that hooked. I'm now off them again and just snort half a subutex  In the morning and a 1/4 later in the day I do that for 4 days then step down to half a day then 1/4 in the morning and 1/4 later afternoon. And then just a 1/4 around lunch then stop all together def *****
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I am not a addict nor have i ever been around or done drugs, unfortunately my boyfriend is an addict and his choice of drug is smoking pills and cocaine. more so smoking pills. He has been into smoking pills ill give a random estimate maybe since 2009? He will be turning 24 this coming december. When it comes to drugs, I have never experimented i always was satisfied with just smoking weed but i wouldnt do it to often. I have never been around someone who is an addict nor know at all what necessarily what they do to get that high off of smoking pills. I honestly didnt know smoking pills was an option out there cause who in the world would think of it usually youd just take them by mouth originally right? lol but anyway id just like to know how can you tell or determine when they are using? or any way they act that you can tell? i just need a little more understanding to what it is being an addict of smoking pills? so i either know to stay and help or to just not waste my time and leave.
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from what I have learned over the past few years those who smoke pain pills do it for a buzz.  Oxycodone, vicadon (hydrocodone) peracet, the pills are so much more expensive then they resort to herion.  Much, much cheaper.  The symptons mostly are weight loss (from observing a person I know) unlike meth.  I have yet to see the acne type sores on their face.  contact her physician's dentist etc and tell them what is going on.  that would be the begining.  take her name off all your financial accounts so you can't be drain dry. Hide lock up all valuables.  Yes even your laptop, I pad, Camera.  They will lie, gamble and even when desperate enough trade sexual favors to get a fix.  Don't assume anything.  IN fact here locally approxmately 12 years a local tanning salon owner was trading her daughter for drugs.  Not trying to scare you but you said to be honest.  
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I have ann issue I've been dealing with for close to a year, we had her ups and downs before that as well. I'm Married i'm in love with my wife we have a 3 year old daughter together we live in different homes. Drugs ruin marriages she hid shooting dope from me for a year when she shoots her mood an attiude change immediatly, an drastically. I am not perfect either i've done my share of drugs, but if don't have any i dont go nuts lik mt wife. i wasnt the best provider but a great stay at home dad. Out of no where she wanted to get back with me, i havent seen my daughter in 6months before that because of her, she had a little fling with her mechanic thats because she couldnt pay, for her stuff. i had temporary restraining order against me due to texting she says i stalked her and wanted to smash her windows, i could of said that but never stalking, i dont have a car we go to the same spots. i stayed away from her she came to the place where i was said she wanted to work thigs out. i was in shock because i have emails where she hates me. so we hung out all week hustling and i was making money for her. shes in the car all day with my daughter and she smokes crack, when i was with her it's no better but i at least took her out of the car and she wasnt alone. she told me she's into black men where she knows that bothers me. and im saying all her boyfriends were white. that was when we were in a texting war. everytime i questioned her loving me she would actually sqaush my nose and yell at me. i still love her she set me up and i cant get over it. she put me through alot when she was in love with me, she use to accuse me of evrything. now that im sweating her im pathetic. Just drugs ruin everything theres so much more. from one week telling me she wants it to work to hitting with a car
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Do you know why she is smoking the pills? Did something happen to her emotionally to make her start this? She stressed out maybe? You won't be able to push her into getting clean, it's a decision we addicts make on own our in our own time.

My partner used to get extremely mad at me but it just caused me to take more pills to not feel the guilt and sadness I was experiencing and he soon learned this and extended his hand in the "I will always be here for you, let me help you" form
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Hi lonely and welcome - I'm sorry you're going through all of this.

I just wanted to post and say you might want to post your own question - you'll get more responses that way as the older posts tend to get overlooked here.

Good luck to you and I hope things get better for all of you.  :)
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Wow, i thought i was the only one going through this. My boyfriend has been doing pills for i think three years now. I recently found out he has been smoking them. He smoke percs. The little blue pills. I have given him so many chances to stop and for me it is hard to leave because we have three little boys together. He has stolen from us his parents, lies all the time, lost his job... the list goes on. I believe i cannot help him because he doesnt want to helped. My heart and soul have become very heavy and messed up through this all. I wish you luck in your situation and welcome any advise for mine.
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I don't know what to do about either. I caught my boyfriend of almost seven years now doing it the other day. It made me sick to my stomache. I feel like I'm at my ropes end, and we have been dealing with his addictions from about year three off and on again until now. Everytime it is something worse.  I want to help him, but at the same time his addiction is ruining my life. Any advice on how to not give up... I feel like I've tried everything yelling, crying, threatening with the law, I am really stuck.
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if  the residue is brown its more than likely heroin
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This is what you need to lookout for. Pinpoint puples, scratching or itching constantly, not falling asleep but dosing off or zoning out, a bad attitude all the time, not caring about anyone else, spending large amounts of money quickly, not cleaning the house or herself, like some other ppl said it can change person to person but here are some of the most common tells... As for her friend take her off to the side and tell her this , I know what's going on with the pills and who knows what else and tell her that until she gets clean she can't be around ur wife you can't do anything about her addiction but u can for ur wife and tell her friend that if she keeps coming around and getting ur wife high that your calling the cops and telling them everything and she won't show her face around there if she is still using cuz the last thing a junkie wants is for the cops to show up or catch them with pills... O and by the way another thing to tell your wife is that if caught with pills it's a first degree felony for EVERY PILL. By the way my name is Adam im 27 and recovering addict so I know what ur going through... It's a tough road but you and your family will pull through , my email is ***@****  you can email me ANYTIME day or night to talk good luck and keep ur head up...
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thank you.  i think that is exactly the kind of things i need to hear and more importantly know.  figuring her out and her problem will go along way in me being able to more affectively helping her the best ways possible.  it's you and the other that have been there and done that and can give me some insite that really helps.  god bless all of you.  you guys are not good poeple, your GREAT poeple.  not only wanting to help people who are addicted but the loved ones in thier lives that want to help.  you should all be proud of what you are doing.  i would be lost without you guys, i can't thank you all enough.
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My wife (I call her Wifey on here) has been my rock, my inspiration, my reason to go on. One of the reasons I decided enough was enough was because I knew I was hurting her with my addiction. I can't tell you how bad that hurts me, to know I'm hurting her yet I can't stop doing it. People who don't understand will ask how addicts "choose" the pills over their loved ones. We don't choose that. The pills grab us and take us down, everything we love be d@mned. Family, friends, kids, careers...none of it matters to the pills.

I almost feel like there are two sides to me. The real me looks at the pill head me and can't believe how she's stooped so low, can't believe the things she's done just to get pills. I want my old life back! I want to put Wifey first again! I'm sure your wife does too...it's just that you can get caught up so easily.

Please don't give up on her. She needs you now more than ever. Believe me, she will thank you for it. There are no words to describe how grateful I am to Wifey for being there for me no matter what, and being so determined to help me through this.  
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i did look it up on google.  but all the symtoms are the same.  the pin sized eye are the dead give away for me.  that was the first thing that i noticed.  but what i didn't know is the depression and anxiety.  my wife has had anxiety problems most of her life.  from what i was reading it looks like this condition will make an addiction to opiates even worse.
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Honestly whether its oxycotin, or black tar heroin its all opiates. That is what you are dealing with one way or another.Lookup opiates on google it will give you the signs, and so on. But it is hard to tell when someone is using opiates sometimes. Good luck!
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HI.....I always feel for the wifes and husbands that come looking for help with there spouse
right now you wife is in dangerous water...sound like she smoking oxy by the evidence your describing my question here is did you find all the evidence or only some of it 14 tins over 3 weeks means she likes it but it might not have a hold of her bad yet...I can assure you if she keeps doing it it will only go in frequency and amount as time progress ....she needs help now b/4 this gets any worst....but you got to want help b/4 your going to get any and theres not much you can do util she wants help...to her right no is all fun and games it fun getting high but once it grabs a hold of you and you develop a dependency she will need it just to feel normal...she not far from that point...you best bet is sitting her down and having a heart to heart with her tell her you researched it and how dangerous what she is doing is....tell her its very ez to become addicted doing what she is doing...and tell her you want her to get help b/4 its to late...beyond that theres not much you can do till she wants help for you I highly recommend alanon meetings
there designed for people living with a family member who is addicted it will give you support and teach you how to love them without enabling them...I feel for you it not fair you and your child should have to go threw this...keep posting and read the post
as far as signs she is using...pined out pupils falling asleep have to leave the house for long periods of time money coming up missing ....good luck with all this and God bless.....Gnarly      
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i have talked to a friend that is police officer.  He says the amount of residue on the foil is almost certainly a pill of some kind.  he said that if it was herion it is way too much and even if there was a couple of poeple smoking it that they could have all od'd.  does this sound correct to you?  the lines are in some cases 4 to almost 8 inches long in two lines coming out of the same point.  some look a dark brown in color and some are black.  hard to tell a differance though.
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Your welcome, my daughter is very deep into her addiction, and unfortunately not ready to stop. I am in a place where I know I can't force anything and I just pray that God. Can bring her back to me. He is in control now.Thanks for asking. I agree with you that this site is so helpful, its hard to understand addiction if you have never been there. Everyone here is so helpful!! God Bless them all in their battles won and waging! Good luck with your wife and if you need someone to vent to feel free to contact me. It can be fustrating, God Bless!
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