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[sherm2092]

IM a 22 year old who is looking for some answers about my addiction.I have been taking oxy's off and on since i was 17, but here in the past year i have really started getting bad.I have been doing 6 80's a day for over three months.OH yea and just recently my whole family found out about me doing this.I am hiding out from them just thinking what i should do.My dad wants me to move in with him but it is so boring there it just makes me think about doing drugs and the withdrawls are unbareable.Rite now i just feel so cornered and have nowhere to go.Any suggestions

[TysonRed]

Im only 26yrs old, I was exactly where you are when I was your age, so dont waste that time like I did. I blew so much money its pathetic, I did things I never imagined I'd do in order to gain money. The whole lifestyle is so dramatic and stressful, the daily grind is unbearable, the people you have to deal with, just everything is just negative about the whole messed up way of life. Youve come to right place, keep posting whatever questions you may have, or send me private message if theres anything else. Definetely stick around here though, so many helpful people its ridiculous. How long since your last oxy use and how much suboxone do you have????

[TysonRed]

If you already have suboxone, wait until you havent taken oxy for atleast 12hrs, after that wait until you feel a little sick, then take 4mgs and wait 15minutes, if you dont feel better take another 2-4mgs and wait, hopefully 8mgs should be enough to make you feel better in about 20minutes. Now this is just my opinion, but obviously you've already taken the step of finding a sub doctor, what were his instructions to you. Only thing you need to do is wait the amount of time before using, or it will send you into withdrawl just like what happened to you. I was very skeptical about it when I started, but since taking it, its helped me in more ways than I could imagine. Im not advocating it for everyone, but in your case I just wanted to atleast let you know the correct way to start taking it. Cant just wait 6hrs of no oxy, and use the sub. You need to stick the tab under your tongue, let it all dissolve and wait as long as you can for whatever saliva buildup to absorb before swallowing. The suboxone websites actually says the whole process should take 15minutes, usually im good in about 5-10min. Seriously, since you already have it, I know you had bad first experience, but you should wait the right amount of time and try again and I promise it will be a different story. Let me know how it goes, whatever you decide.

[sherm2092]

Thanks alot for the advise, but ya i will look more into the suboxen treatments around my area.IM GONNA TRY MY HARDEST TO GET CLEAN AND SOBER.CONSISTANCY IS MY GOAL

[TysonRed]

If your going to go the suboxone route...you need your body to be in moderate withdrawl which should be anywhere from 12-36hrs minimum of no oxy before taking the suboxone or it will send you into immediate severe withdrawl. I myself was taking oxy's, usually about 3-4 80's a day, along with taking methadone everyday. It was a very stressful, unproductive part of my life. I eventually kicked the oxy's and other drugs, except for methadone I used to maintain. Soon after I got insurance, found an addiction specialist who helped me taper my methadone dose down to 30mgs, I then went to see Dr. he worked for who convinced me over to suboxone. That was 56days ago, I started at 8mgs, and am now taking 4-5mgs daily and really have never felt better. Suboxone is a great tool to be used for detox purposes, unfortunately alot of insurances either dont cover the doc's visit or the medication so the high price isnt an option for many people to afford. But its hard to put a price on becoming clean and sober. Keep posting here for different ideas and techiniques used either to taper, or look into suboxone.com for sub doc's around your area. My opinion as far as suboxone goes, is first start now in tapering your oxy use, when and if possible try to get to just taking percocet(oxycodone) before switching and you may even be able to do a quick 21 day usage of suboxone. Even if you need to switch over from oxycontin try to get to the lowest amount possible that you can taper yourself down, in order to enable yourself to have an easier transition and lower one into suboxone. Dont start any higher than 16mgs unless its Absolutely Necessary for you to do so. It really is a viable option when used correctly and not abused, you will feel fine and without really any cravings at all. Keep posting here for more advice and support, you will find its amazing it what it can offer in and for your recovery. Best wishes to you, and if you have any questions just click my name and send me message/note and I'll try my best to answer. Good luck!!!

[sherm2092]

Yes i have all the support by my family but it feels like when i get to the point where im sick of doing pills ill stop and by the second day of the w/d i just cant take it anymore.My mind feels like it is goin 500 miles a sec but my body is just goin in slow motion.One of the biggest things is the pain.I dont have anything wrong with me.I have just been abusing all the drugs i have ever takin besides what got me started.I decided to quit b/c of all of the stress that goes with doin the drugs.Im so sick of worring if im gonna have a pill before i have to go to work and if i dont have one then i will get out of going to work.I work with my brothers and if i went to work w/d they would know something was up with me.IM JUST SICK OF LIVING LIFE LIKE THIS...SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE I CAN NEVER GET OUT OF THIS HOLE.LIKE MY LIFE IS OVER!!

[worried878]

okay....using is not the answer...why did u decide to quit this time?  I dont know u so can u tell me?  depression is the hardest part of wd and lasts way longer than the tummy probs etc...r u ready to go for this?  to make it thru and physically u will feel better next week...much better...do u have all the balls in ur court like the supps and stuff?

[sherm2092]

I wouldnt mind going to any meetings but the w/d's are so bad rite now i just want to go rite back to using.I dont know what i want to do about it.Its either going to rehab or stay with my family and feel like total h$$l for a couple weeks or so.IM just in so much pain rite now i dont know what to do with myself, and another thing i just found out that depression comes along with the w/d's.I didnt know what i was feeling when i went through w/d's at first and after i found out what it was i was shocked on how close they were describing the depression

[worried878]

like Ktodd said...this stuff gets no easier,,,just harder and harder...it never gets better...dont ever think it will cos it wont..tolerence will continue to build and the narc wont touch ur pain after a while..being a chronic pain patient i know and at the end i used to function and go to wrk...the euphoria they once brought me was now a depressing, isolated feeling...but if i did not use the depression and sweats would start up...I am like "What am i doing?"  going broke for a drug that makes me feel like dog poo poo...it was a big fat doomer...yet i continued to chase a high that i would never be able to catch again...suboxone contains narcan/naloxone..a reversal agent on every code cart in every hospital..that we inject to reverse the effects of overdose such as respiratory depression to save lives...it will immediately remove all narcotics from ur receptors...short half life tho so u have to watch as the narcs have a much longer half life and u may lose the patient again..after u inject it, they will wake up and be completely alert....but it DOES precipitate wds as all ur narcotic was removed from the receptor site in ur brain quickly


what is ur plan?  r u going to meetings? aftercare is so important

[sherm2092]

and another thing that scares me is every day i get sick from doing these pills.Recently i have been throwing up blood, and this isnt just a little bit.This is a substantial amount.The toilet bowl will be a dark red and this scares me when it happens.I have no clue what it could be...If someone has heard of anything like this please reply

[sherm2092]

I have tried some ways to get off the drugs but i havent been successful.I got some suboxen but i didnt know that if you take them before all of the oxy or whatever is in your system that it will send you into w/d really bad.I woke up and did the suboxen and it was five or six hours since the last time i did oxy.By the time i got to work i felt horrible so i took another one.After about 1 hourr i was crawling on the ground thinking i was gonna die.so i had one of my friends pick me up and i went straight too my house and did 3 oxys at once.so now im affraid to take suboxen and i have heard such good things about it...

[sherm2092]

No im not trying to quit because of my family finding out.I just want out of this lifestyle.Always looking for money and ways to find the pills.I have been trying to quit for a while now.The thing is all of my friends do it to, and it is hard to just not talk to all of my friends when i am tryin to quit.Oh ya and my brother is a recovering addict.He was worse off then me,he was shooting up herion.I just dont see how he quit.One thing that was alot easier for him was that he had lost all of his friends and he moved away with my cousin.IM kind of the outcast in my family.It feels like i need to get away far far away form everyone in my life.

[extrmeski]

Todd made some excellent points, motivation is key!  You have to be self motivated because W/D stink beyond belief.  If you are doing it for someone else it would be more than difficult.  Think about the money that you spend daily on the oxy's and what else could you have done with that money?  You might be better moving in with your dad if that would help you kick the habit and take you away from the people that are helping you with your habit.  I'm assuming that you are buying the 80's on the street, those are not usually prescribed to people your age.  
If you need any help this is the right place to get it.  I'll give you what ever information you want having gone through w/d from fentanyl which is the worse stuff to get off of.

[K Todd]

You defenily came to the right place brother!

You will find alot of great love and suppot here at this forum...

This would be a great thing, if you plan on quitting now...being 22.

I know your addiction is hard, and the w/d's seem almost unbearable....but the longer you stay on them, the more you take, the worse it gets, and so to the withdrawls...

Question: Do you want to quit for yourself...or because your parents found out?

Your motive is going to make all the diffence in the world, and you took your 1st good one by coming to this forum, and post!

Hang in there, and were all here for you,
Todd