Please I need an answer I'm so scared

[Pattyjo719]

My son is 21 years old and 8 months ago was put on Hydrocodone for a back Fx. He was done with the opiates 3 weeks after they were prescribed. He flushed them with me. Low and behold his body was addicted and he was off to the races. He's taking oxycodone 30mg and is taking 5 to 8 a day. He's going to detox on Wednesday and has to stop taking opiates 24 hours before he goes. Today all day he's complaining of severe pain kind of in the lower right quadrant into his back. About every hour it starts and when it does he vomits profusely. I thought he was faking because he wants pills but, he's not asking for them. Could this be his pancreas? I really thought he was crying wolf but, he's laying with me and he will rest then all of a sudden severe pain and vomiting right away. I didn't know if opiates could hurt the pancreas? I don't know what to do and I'm scared to death. He don't want to go to the ER but, if it's the pancreas he needs to. He don't consume any alcohol at all. Thank you and I hope you can help.  

[bellabo]

hi.  im glad you found this forum.  just hold your son when needed,  i know its going to be a long hellish trip we call w/d.  i am clean and sober 14 days today.  i was able to see my son who is in prison for drug charges, and tell him i was clean and sober seeing him for the first time in years.  he was so happy,  hes been clean over a year.  all my strength and power is comming his way.  love will overcome drugs.  power, strength and health to all adicts and if you believe,  you both are in my prayers.  bellabo

[snakejones]

Hi, dear. So sorry young'un has a stone. It sounded just like one. I agree with Ashelen and Vicki to think about maybe postponing the detox. If it were me and my kid, I'd go to the urologist and see if they thought that lithotripsy would help. That's when they vibrate the stone and fracture it. It's done under at the hospital anesthesia, and works well. Sometimes it needs an additional time to finish, but many patients are fine with one treatment. I've recovered many, many lithotripsy patients and did extensive postop teaching, so if you have any questions before you think about this, feel free to write to me. Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I'd say wait on the detox for a month and get your boy healthy. Right now he needs to rest and push fluids and take opiates judiciously (YOU dispense!). Good luck, and keep us posted.

[vicki595]

I agree with Ash. Call and talk to the detox facility. They may not want to take him while he's in this acute situation. It would be sad to get there and not have him be accepted.

Or,you could cancel? Maybe?  Kidney stones can be so painful, I'd hate to have him suffer through that without pain med.

[dominosarah]

Please let us know what is going on with your son.

Congrats to you also on 8 yrs being clean and sober~~sara

[Ashelen]

does this detox center know about the stone? i ask because they may not accept him with an active stone....kidney stones usually pass without help and do nothing but cause excruciating (worse than labor...I know, I've had both) pain...but sometimes they can cause serious or even life-threatening complications which the detox center is probably not set up to handle.

I've passed stones without pain medicine before, but the ones that I threw up with were always really bad and I HAD to have pain medicine. If he's ready to do this detox right now, then he can probably manage it...he'll know if the pain is too great. But don't expect a miracle. I can't begin to explain how painful kidney stones are...and if he needs to be treated, please let him be treated!

And again..you may want to contact the detox center and make sure he can still come in with the stone. They may postpone this.

Best of luck..hope he gets some relief soon. stones are AWFUL. I would give birth 10 times in as many days rather than have even one more kidney stone, which I get every few months.

[theirmommie72]

I had that same thing happen to me on day 5 of w/d from vics.  it woke me from a deep sleep it was so bad.  i didn't throw up but the pain was back right lower and front lower as well.  i had been taking immodium the first few days of w/d and thought it was just that and drank gobs of prune juice.  the next day was okay but had to lie on a heating pad most of the day.

i was wondering about the kidneys too because the next day, my UTI symptoms started.  i guess maybe i should have gotten it checked out but all is okay now.  i refused to go to the ER because I didn't want them to give me pain meds and i would not have been able to turn them down.  stupid reason i know.  but i had gotten so far for the first time and didn't want any temptation.  

Good Luck with everything.  I hope he is feeling better soon.  It's hard.  

[Pattyjo719]

Thank you everyone for your support and encouragement. It was a kidney stone. It will move itself but, now things get crazy. They say you need narcotics to deal with this and at 8am this morning he starts his 24 hour withdrawal so he can go to the 24 hour detox induction program. He's got to do this detox and go get this induction because his life depends on it. I guess he's just gonna have to tuff out the stone. I'm so afraid of these next 24 hours. I know it's gonna be hard on both of us. Extra hard on him because he's got a legitimate reason to take the pain pills. So not only is it 24 hours of witdraw it's coupled with pain. I've got a hotel that puts me 10 minutes from the detox facility for morning so I don't have to drive an hour. I'm so scared and it's so hard but, his life depends on it. I've got 8 years clean and sober from opiates and alcohol. It is a family dieses and now I know what my mom went through. Thank you everyone let the withdrawal begin :-(

[snakejones]

I hope y'all are at the ER by now, because he is in an ER-appropriate  situation. The symptoms could be a kidney stone--he is experiencing classic symptoms for that. Any visible blood in the urine? They'll do a urine test for blood or infection at the ER. Poor fellow! Nothing harder for a mama than watching something like that.
Please let us know when you can how he is feeling. We are ALL worried.

[Innerstrength67]

My healing thoughts are with both of you. I'm so glad your taking him. Keep us posted!

[Pattyjo719]

I'm bringing him. I can't take it and neither can he. The pain is so bad. How awful I thought he was faking. He cried wolf so many times. God this is a mess. He was supposed to be in detox Monday and they were so scared the insurance wasn't gonna pay they made us wait!! Only in America!! On our way and thank you everyone!!

[ImDONENoMore]

You are doing the right thing - get him to the hospital - it's his health you both need to focus on now - the other stuff doesn't matter.

Good luck to you!!  And please - again - post back later and let us know how he's doing.  Take care of you too okay?  :)

[justsaynotodrugs]

     Thats right he needs treatment and he needs it as soon as possible.  

[Pattyjo719]

My message cut off I'm sorry. I think this is something and not crying wolf! He's embarrasses to go because he works on the ambulance but, nothings more important than living. Thank you so much

[Pattyjo719]

Born, my life, my everything. He's my heart. I'm gonna make him!! I thought constipation from the opiates but, even that can be fatal!! Thank you so much. I felt so alone. Not anymore. Thank you

[ImDONENoMore]

You need to take him to the ER - don't let him tell you otherwise.  He should be seen by a Dr. immediately!

I hope everything is okay please post back and let us know how he makes out.