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skipper are you out there?

can you post your email address?  are you doing ok?
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It is funny that you say addicted to this site because ever since I have found this site it has been one of my first stops on the internet.  I think I have another addiction myself.  Don't get me wrong I do have the pain but the buzz is what I was attracted too.  Unfortunately,  when I taper down the pain increases but I am sure that my body just needs to get rid of the chemicals and start producing natural healers.  You are right, it does help to know that you are not alone in this struggle as they old saying goes "misery loves company".  Good luck to you and I hope your friend will soon come around.
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It has been the hardest 41 days of my life.I am 44 years old and I have been thru alot of surgeries and other things I thought were bad.But this time it has been so hard because I know this time I have to make it.My marriage,my daughter and my life depend on me being something I haven't been since I was 16,
                    straight.
                      thanks,
                       bmac
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Congratulations on 41 days - that is a great accomplishment.  I hope everyday gets easier.
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Thanks! Things just way out of hand and yes it is part of my addiction.Things will be better today I promise and in the future
                  thanks again for the positive post
                    I need that now more than ever
                       day 41 and still going!!!
                               bmac
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Bmac/Groovy
Everything that we post within these threads is ok. I have been reading the forum for many months. The anger and frustration posted by some of us is part of our addiction. Some people have an easier time with the anger because noone ever taught them how to express their pain and suffering. Understand that even the harshest of threads lead some of us to a point of understanding that deep down in our guts we are that mad at ourselves for becoming full blown addicts. I myself have a difficult time expressing pain and dissapointment in myself. I either bury it and blow up over bullshit or file it so I cannot sleep or Love my wife or son properly. I thank God that my wife Loves me so much and has forgiven me for being such a weak person. I enjoy and learn so much about my addiction  and my inner self from all of you. It frightens me that some of us feel that shutting individuals out of the forum will make it better. It almost reminds me of when certain people in history wanted to centure free speech and burning books that didn
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I understand that.I learned a great lesson thru all this.Number
one,I didn't even start this.Number two,the one that started this isn't even posting anymore.I have people still posting to me about the arguing between grovvy and me and it wasn't even me that started it.But I did learn to keep my mouth shut.I even got a post from Deason saying I was vulger and cruel when I said the same words as groovy did.What's up with that?I guess you live and learn.You're right no one wins in this ****!
This will be my 5th time to apologze for this.I AM SORRY I EVER
OPENED MY MOUTH TO GROOVY.IT WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
                  thanks,
                    bmac
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everyone;
the most important lesson kip has ever learn on this forum was from
a poster who started seversl months after i did. we had a huge dis-
agreement about something or other. i can't even remember about
what. the important thing is, we learned to disagree, and still be
friends. today this woman remains one of my favorite forum friends.
the only thing really wrong with Witchy Woman is she no longer
posts as often as she used to. my hat is off to her, because to-
gather we learned how to disagree, and still be friends. something
that at least i was long overdue learning. thankyou witchwoman. the
rest of you folks might see if you can learn the same. if you win
an argument, you usually don't win much of anything...win a friend,
and you have won the whole world!

need every last one of you so
get thosr angels on your shoulder
kip
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I'm a new one here also. My first post at 3:30 in the morning. I hope that maybe this forum becomes my new addiction instead of lortabs. Although, i just took my very last one like a half hour ago, so I'm feeling pretty good right now. VERY LAST ONE.....I don't know if I can say that for sure. I think I will have to try to taper,but I don't know if it will work for me or not. I usually end up doing what you do....take a couple when i get home from work with a couple beers, and yes, everything is ok then. The sad thing is, I started taking these for the buzz, I never had any back pain. A friend of mine had them and got me hooked, and now we're both hooked really bad. She isn't making any attempt to quit though. Anyway, I'm so glad to see other people on the same boat as me (that's not to be taken in a bad way,like I'm glad to see people in pain). I'm glad that there are normal,everyday, hard-working people that i can share my thoughts and fears with, and who will understand what i'm going through. Good luck to you newlife.

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We all have bad moments that seem to last forever. I feel for you and your fight to stay sober. No apologies are needed. I draw strength from everybody.

Has anyone had contact with Chezz?
Goldenbear
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Hello all.  First time poster but have been lurking around here for a few weeks.  It looks like I have a similar story to many of you.  I was hit by a car 5 years ago and have suffered lower back problems ever since (hernited dics L5).  I have been using lortab 10's on and off for the past 3.5 years.  I am 31 and have a construction business that tends to impair my physical condition so in come the hydro's.  The pain is legit the addiction sucks.  For most of the 3 years it has been 15-20mg habit at night when I would get home from work a pill and a half and a few beers and everything was good.  Although I was not taking more than prescribed I still am hooked.  Lately, I have been up to 40mg per day 2x 20mg.  I just started a tapering schedule yesterday.  I have been successful with tapering in the past but I usually make it a month or two and relapse from pain/cravings.  Anyways, just wanted to let myself in because I will need the help.  I really want to get off these things that seem to control my every thought.  I have 17 left and 2 more refills for 60.  So I am hoping to use the 17 and the first 60 to taper down and not refill the last 60.  I know the temptation will be tough but it needs to be done.  Sorry for the ramble
Take care
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My second day. 40mg vic/day.  When will I stop feeling like I have the flu?  When will I sleep?
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Good luck to you.This is my third day and I feel so much mental relief knowing that the worst is almost over.I know a lot of people will think this is nuts but thera flu liquid has really helped me with past withdrawls.It really helped with the leg aches and shaking, so if you want to give it a try,just go to any store.I will keep you in my prayers.

pixi
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Are you taking any of the formula items to help with  the withdrawal?  Plese do to help you feel as least suffering as possible.  i was told to take l- tyrosine and lots of kava kava.  and lots of amodium AD.  Also benedryl.  But I'm not the expert so please find the total formula on the forum ok hon?
Take care ..We are all supporting you here!  Where do u live now?
Suzie
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hello i am new...strider is the name to take courage from a character who i have identified with since i first read the jrr tolkien book in 1969. i am 46, was a "late hippie" and  habitual pot smoker from 18-24 years old, a model university student at a top 5 university/graduate school, and then a high power senior corp executive for 20 years (ceo of a large company), making $600k/year.  BUT i wasted it all away due to a 6 year pill habit (vicodin), which i started after an relationship with a young, beautiful addict. it is a long story, but the pills ruined my career and a 25 year marriage.  i have been drug dependent for 6 years, to my ANGER, since i was able to cope and advance in life just fine before. i caved in to the CONFIDENCE +++ that the vic's gave me, which made me exponentially MORE powerful than i already was, and made me commit STUPID mistakes.  

i am now re-starting my life, a new family, a new "low profile job" and many things are in place except the pills, which until yerterday i took at 10/day for 6 years.  i am living in a foreign country, far from possible supply, so going back is not possible from that perspective.  i want to get my old self back, my self confidence without the drug, before that fateful day when i started the pills.

so today is day 1.  i have stopped this post twice to go to the bathroom, and i have shakes, a pounding headache, cold sweats and more.  last night i did sleep, because i took the last pill at 8 pm.  i do not have a gnc in this country, so i cannot use any supplements.  my (second) wife has no idea what is going on, but she will soon suspect that something is going on.  she never suspected anything.

i am glad i found this forum and i hope to be able to report good progress. i am so damn angry at myself for having succomed to these damned pills but i am happy that i am really starting a new life.  i woke at 6 am today and have spent 4 hour reading posts, and am taking courage from many of you.

cheers.
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Jess,
Baby wut happened?  You will be sorely missed by so many.  You have been so helpful, philosophical when its needed, tough when its needed, honest, direct, and a dependable constant on this board.????
Suzie
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We'll miss you. Post back sometime!
karen
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GOD
It's been a fun ride, but I'm done posting here. I will e-mail the good friends that I've made here, but the post (Soap-opera) is just a little too stressful for this guy right now.

I've decided to make a major chage in my life-- Leave the midwest, and hit one of the coasts... (Oregon or Florida...)
I'm even considering Australia (anyone have any info from the down-under to help me out?)

You people have helped me more than words can say, so goodnight all, and best wishes to Everyone!

Keep the Angel on your shoulders!
Jess
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Welcome,find the 'famous'Thomas recipe listed throughout this
forum.It is a combination of vitamins and minerals.It will help you more than you can imagine going thru tapering and then withdrawals.Alot of people have used it and it will make this experience 100% easier.Always know you can post here and if the need arises,post on!!!
                             bmac
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Thanks for the reply. I have purchased many of the supplements and have started taking them.  I am sure they will help with some of the physical but I will have to keep a strong mind.  I enjoyed reading your posts in the pasts as well as the many of the others.  It is extremely helpful to have this forum and all of you to lean on.
Good luck to you and to all!
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how are ya skip. hope all is well and i hope the job search is going well.
how's the wrist doing, is it really painful.
i sent patrick an email just to say hey, and thanks for being
there. he sent me nice response.
i pic up my freind tommorow at 5pm at the train station.
he get's out of jail after almost 7 years at huntingdon pa .
he 40 an has not seen his children durng those 7 years , he has a 14 year old girl and a 12 year old son .
well i am very excited, he was a preson who stayed with me day
and night for my 1st 30 days clean back in 1984 ,he saved my life.

so i owe him , he was clean for 10 years in na , he was the philadelphia na area chairpersn for 5 years, then his wife left him and started messing around and it snt him back to using, after not seeing his kid for a few months.
he had the brite idea to sell drugs to make some quick cash.
and right out of the box he wound up selling 2 ounces of coke to 2 undercover feds nand that was all she wrote
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