Trying to get off these damn things after taking them for two years(3 grams of heroine daily before them) I'm down to 8-16 mgs a day, 90% of the time 8mgs(I've heard fluctuating makes u crazy, hopefully someonee verifies that, cuz I am :( ,t they've ruined my life, just as much as opiates did! I work, run a business, think I'm fine, then lose it, alcohol occassionaly with them hasn't helped but I've Done counciling etc, programs u name it, I just needs to be clean as a whistle from all! Can quit the alcohol without the subs, not a big drinker etc its ruined every relationship I have, I need to be off them! Not even the slightest desire to use opiates, the types of people that its as easy as finding the switch and turning it off, which I've found, please help, done every program, and know god, so if your response is that please don't post. Please help me :(