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I will starting subutex to come off of methadone. I have takin it before but to get of roxycodnoe 30mg. But, for the past year my dr has been perscribeing me methadone 10 and i take anywhere from 30-60mg a day. My dr perscribed me subutex about 2 weeks ago and i told him i took a methadone before the visit when can i start the subutex? He said i can start as soon as i leave. So i did and for some reason i was thrown into the worst withdrawl i ever experianced. And when i told him what happen its almost like he has no idea what he's talking about. SO I REALLY NEED HELP!!

So since ive takin it in the past from roxycodone and didnt have any problem i figured since methadone is a long acting opiate and alot was still in my system is why i got sick so i stopped taking the methadone 5 days ago and have been back on the roxycodone 30 mg a total of 150mg's a day. Do you think i can start taking the subutex any time soon?? Any anwsers will help please i feel like im all on my own with this.
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I'm on subutex and it is about the same as suboxen. You have to be in withdraws for 24 hours before beginning to take it, and if there is anything still in your system at that point it will make you sick. I would take the subutex before the methodone. I was on prescribed methodone for 2 1/2 years and felt horrible but once I got on the suboxone I could tell a major difference and it was wonderful.
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No, you will need to be in moderate withdrawal. This is an old thread, click Post a Question at the top of the page and let us know how we can help.
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Subutex does not have naloxone in it it shouldn't throw u into withdrawal only suboxone because of the naloxone rips the opiates out of ur brain n there's ur withdrawal
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i been on methadone for 11 years im on 100mg.a day i want to get off it,can i start taking subutex right away?
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Your doctor sounds like an irresponsible ******* who couldn't care less about your wellbeing.  

As for you, it sounds like you are just trading addictions again.  You went on methadone to get off opiates, and at one time used Sub to get off roxies, now you're trying to use Sub to get off Methadone.  See a pattern?

Please, stop the cycle.  Most of the people who get on Suboxone wish they never did, they WD's are months long, and the symptoms are much more intense.

If you REALLY want to quit, then you just need to decide to quit and do it.  I've been there, I know exactly where you are and what you're going through.  Just be done with it.  Months from now, you'll still be taking Suboxone...and wondering if you can switch to Methadone "to help get you off Suboxone".  It's like thinking taking heroin will help you stop taking vicodin.

I do wish you the best, I just get so depressed when I see people in this cycle.  Even though you will probably disagree with this statement it's true - part of you still wants to use, otherwise you wouldn't be even entertaining the idea of taking Suboxone...an opiate.  If you want to stop taking opiates then stop taking opiates.  

Love.  
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If you still got oxy in ur system subutext for most part won't make u sick but in some cases seen subutext and suboxone throw people into full withdrawl from taking the meds so close back to back.. Scince it was subutext it's bit more uncommon but can happen.Plus if any other drugs mixed in could mess you up too. Suposse to wait till you feeling 1st signs of withdrawl then take the subutex!
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********!    Both of them will put you in withdrawl ! I know my best friend did methadone for 3 yrs(70ml a day)  didnt have any one day so her friend gave her  a subutex within 15 min she was feeling wierd ,felt like throwing and could hardly walk..sweating. you do it and then say only suboxtin does it they both do!!! you havent been there dont reply on it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Both will put u in w/drawl!!! And yes subutex is the white one and it its almost like suboxtin!!!! You have to go down to 20 ml of methadone and then skip a day to switch to any of these meds. I;am a nurse at the clinic in Richmond, va!!! So I know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can go into Cadiac arrest So dont do it ever unlesss you go down on the methadone and skip a day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why will subutex put u into withdrawal if it doesn't contain naloxone the agent that rips the opiates off your brain and causes the withdrawal only suboxone contains naloxone
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YOU CAN START SUBOXZONE  48 HOURS AFTER YOUR LAST DOSE OF A OPIATE ANY SOONER YOU WILL GO INTO W/D.        
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U can take subutex over methadone because it doesn't contain naloxone
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It is definitly subutex the white one 8mg 2-3X's a day is what he persceibed. I want to get off the methadone. I notice a few side effects from it i dont like and my health insurance changed and now coveres the subutex so i had it perscribed rite away. But when i first went to fill the perscription they automaticly gave me the generic Buprenorphine this was a round whit pill i never seen before... so when i got sick from it i went back to the pharmacy and asked them to exchange it to brand because it made me so sick so they did but the "brand" subutex didnt help any. So i started taking the roxy's to make me feel better and thought mabye it was the methadone since i know i felt great in the past when i took subutex.Thanks for the help!!!
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yes was it subutex or suboxzone
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I really dont understand why your doctor did this (now I am no doc but I do know about these meds been there done that and studied a lot on them) I am now on methadone and know many that are on methadone and some that are on subutex. You really should not have went into w/d from methadone when switching to subutex unless its suboxone not subutex. Subutex dont have blockers in them like subxone does. Subutex and methadone are a lot alike so why is he using that to get you off methadone. Tell me more. Taking roxi and subutex should not put you into w/d's. How much subutex did he give you per day? The white one right not orange....
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I jus asked the same question subutex doesn't contain naloxone so u can mix it with methadone to stop taking methadone. This is what I was told w
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It just put you in precipitated wds  This is all things you need to dicuss with your doctor .There are not any here. you are supposed to be down to under 30 mgs before you take sub then dgo off it for 5 days then take sub but you took the roxy inbetween how long after taking a roxy did ya start the subutex  
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I just asked the same question because subutex doesn't have naloxone so it shouldn't put u into withdrawal  which is what I'm told
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