thomas recipie and clonidine

[azaddiction]

So basically the prescribed by this forum "thomas recipie and clonidine" help with w/d but does not stop the **** of it all entirely?  Correct, I heard suboxone is another addiciton and some real bad things along with that while reading the forum, I don't have a doc, and I have not committed to going to NA yet, I know I sound like a lost cause, was just hoping for help from this forum on what the best route would be.  Sounds like all information about the "help" from all above just makes you lethargic and tired all the time, that's the pull of the bad drug I want to feel energized and alive, just hard to go the other way when this way was working for me, I go through this cycle all the time, when I run out, as always faster then I can get again so I have a down time, just not a lot of options on taking time off work and I hate the lazyness of it all, guess I have to push myself to do more but it's so dam* hard to push myself without outside motivation, just excuses on why I want/need more.  Tired of tired and problems with everyday life, whant to feel good all the time, and so far it's only with my addiciton Hydro 10/650 anywere from 4 to 6 a day, not happy when it's gone.  but what can I do, I post on and off as you will notice one a month, but the problems is I really dont want to stop just run out, don't get me wrong I do go through the "I can't survive this all my life, have to stop some time, and I always feel this will be the time once a month, but it doesn't last.  I want to be normal I want to be a part of this click and group of survisors, just seem a little clicky because most of the forums I read you all know each other so well and I'm a newby, so I get my quick answers but not alot of feelings of belonging, want to belong so I cam feel apart of it all, just rambling on and on, just how I feel now  "once a month" and I really do want it to be long term, just so fu***** hard to stop, I love the way I feel when I'm using and hate the way I feel when I'm not.  I go through the paniky stage, think of everything I can do to get more even breaking my own arm just for relief, sounds stuiped but thoughts just run through my head because I'm so damn afraid to feel like ****, what up with that when will it stop, how can I get my life back, when deep down I don't know if I can do it, even thought of switching to meth (won't) my man is in law enforcement so that's out of the question, and he has no idea about my addiction/problems.  Help anyone tell me the best way to get through this and still feel able to function without feeling like crapping and sleeping all day, just not an option, I'm a mother for crying out loud no time for rest "no rest for the wicked" that's my motto.  anyway just someone post and try not to judge just give me hope there is a light at the end of the tunnel and I will get through it.  Wish there was an easier way, don't want the pain and anxiety of it all, reality check there will be pain and anxiety I do know that, just wish there wasn't.  Any way by for now, and if this last this time (my recovery) then I need all of you to give me input and help........ sorry for the drama that's how I am, even not doped up.  Thanks  

AZA

[azaddiction]

Oh yea I did cut all pills in half already, just wanted you to know....

[No name22]

anything to help...

[azaddiction]

just sent post to FLaddic, hopefully she can help me too, thanks for reading and informing... really appreciate it....

[No name22]

Oh sorry I just read you're post about no sub....you should post to FLaddic about a tapper schedual she helped me...

[No name22]

I understand you can't just go c/t so my question is have you checked out suboxone? It worked really good for me and should only be used for a short time I think, cause ya don't wanna trade a acddiction for another....Seriously though what also really helped me was this forum just reading learning and being able to give advice as well as taking it...Keep posting there are more people on other times of the day right now it's quiet, but you'll get alot of support i know

[willruthie1965]

Listen stay away from methadone.Vicodin withdrawals  are very short! You can do it.I have done it.I thought the methadone was the way to get clean but it is not !I once quit vicodin and last 1 was thursday and by monday morning I felt awesome. I know it's hard to even feel like I have the right to say this being  I  am on methadone.I got into that by not knowing how difficult it was to quit.

The months and years I was free,even right after quitting   I felt so wonderful No more ups and downs and chest hurting at times from the speeding up of my system..Ruthie

[azaddiction]

I know one of the big key's to stay off is a support group, but for now you are my support group, I don't want to admit to all my family my problems just yet, and I know it's part of the healing process.  No pressure to all of you just need you now until I get my head out of my ***, and maybe deal with losing what I have, but if that's they way to get better then one day I may have to but for now you are all I have, and i want to be able to communicate with people like me and you to get through this.

[azaddiction]

I have heard o suboxone, but also heard alot from this forum on how hard it is to quit that too?  So I'd rather not have to go through the expense and the "everyone will have to know" situation so I'm trying to do it on my own, just works sucks, with the idea of having to be there, don't have the option of staying at home, plus not real productive at home either.  Sucks bad, I don't have the energy to cook much less grocery shop, stuck in a lazy rutt, and I can't help but feel there is a way out, "the magic pill" I know it's only tempary just any excuss to use.  Thanks for the feed back and this time I will try to stay on long enough to get to know you all, and get through this.

[road2recovery]

I guess there is not way out of this h el l without some pain...i was up to 15 a day of 10mg of hydro's...I weaned to 5...Then when c/t there..i used clonodine, i am on lexapro, i took klonopin( not much) ...I did not sleep all day..Like you i am a mother, the only good thing was i did not have to work...Oh yes and i took immodium...This was the second time i tried to quit..the first was only because i ran out and really didn't have my mind set..Well i lasted only 2 1/2 days...It was terrible, worst then this time...But the first time i was at 15 and had no clonodine..and mentally i had not prepared myself...This time i had a plan, may sound crazy, but days before i had cooked some meals for about 4 days, went grocery shopping enough that i would not have to go back for a while, because i did this when hubby went to work..He knew but one i didn't want him to see me like that, and two, i didn't want to wait another 2 weeks for him to come home , my doc had gave me the ok so i wanted it done..
this time i did not take as much immodium as before..I know this may be gross but oh well---I wanted it out of me..And if something smells that bad and cramps you that bad i put in my mind it had to be poison...
the clonidine i took 3 times a day..
hot baths alot , cleanest person in the neighborhood...Now it was not a walk in the park and still is not but i know it will get better, and i don't want to go there again...I wasn't even getting the high i was before..It was only keeping the w/d's away..
Like you i was taking 6 a day and never dreamed i could take 15, but now i know it is easy and honestly i would have kept going higher the longer i stayed on it..
we are here , and it is a fight but you are worth it
r2r

[No name22]

Sorry if it's short my hands killen me...
Ok if ya broke you're arm you'd only get enough to last you a week,LOL I know or would hope you'd never do that...You have to want to stop to really quit, I did and I still get the urge, but its mental ALL mental! I went out today for a bit got home and was like hmm, but no i'm not going back to that mysery.... Addiction sucks big time and ruins people but since i quit it's getting easier.. I have money again to live a "normal" life....I'm still taking the suboxone tho, but i cut down alot..Have you ever heard of it?