treatment of drug addiction

[santoo]

Respected sir/madam,
                    my brother vipin kumar got addiction to fortwin injection, he is addicted for about 6yrs his age is 27yrs. He wants to get rid of but failing. He want to be treated. In what way it can be possible. We belongs to India.  If you want some more information let me know I will mail you again.Please help him sir.If you yourself can't give treatment please let me know the other sources in India itself.
                                     hopefully yours
                                      sachin kumar

[Hinkster]

jeweler...We didn't forget you my friend. As we've said many times go straight to the top of the forum and post exactly what
you have said down here in no mans land. The knowledgeable here
are waiting to help you but have to see you first.
Good luck,
Tom

[Jeweler]

I've decided to get off Opiates.   I've been taking them, most every day, now for almost a year.  A few months ago, I tried to taper off.  I was successful... for two days.  I threw another disc out of my back from working with concrete, and had to take it.

But the realization has grown stronger and stronger in the last couple of weeks.  I MUST GET OFF THESE.  No more talk.  No more false promises.  If I don't get off them, they'll kill me.

Where I live, there's no NA.  I'm in the boonies.  Therefore, I've decided to let y'all be my NA if you don't mind.  

I've been taking Oxycodone 7.5/500's.  About 4 to 6 a day, not every day, but the days I haven't taken it, it's all I thought about.

But this is something I've set out to do.  I have gotten serious about God, and asking him for help.  So any advice you have, please don't hold back.  I'm in this like any other addict.  You see, I now can say it.  I have now accepted it. I am one.  But it's time to get clean.  I've given it to God.  

But I'm hoping I haven't gotten to the point where I can't give it up cold turkey.  If you think I shouldn't do it, please post a schedule to taper off.  I could use advice from those like me.

jeweler

[angst]

if you go the rapid detox way, they usually implant the naltrexone in pellets that slowly diminish.  once they are gone, you may need to take it.  i took it once for a month in rehab.  it made me feel no different.  but i was not the person i am today.  i was still stinking thinking.  you have to make a commentment to the rapid detox if it going to work.  find your way and stand by it.  get strong and mean about drugs.  what have they taken from you?  way too much from me.  good luck.

[row]

Has anyone herd of or is a fan of NALTREXONE.

I really dont want to take it, its just more money, it seems its all about money and from my knowledge it just stops the cravings and if you take a pill it blocks its effects.

I dont think I need to use this for a year.

And also never was a drinker at all but if I go out and want a couple of beers it screws you up if you are taking NALTREXONE.

What do you think???????????????

ROW

[row]

Once again you are there, you are an extrodinary person and you take time from your life and give to us. I will promise to make a vow and tell you how it goes and be there for all of you because I will need help once I return home. Very scared but I will pull through and return to a life I once had. My 3 year old nephew needs me and I need him. Life is good and drugs are bad, Ijust dont understand this joke that has been played on all of us wonderful people. WE will get by!!! I will be back. THANK YOU ANGST SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH You have touched my life and more importantly my soul!

God Bless all and Corage to all!

Row

[angst]

I've seen it done on TV.  The anesthesiologist puts you to sleep.
Then you start getting narcan, and he implants naltrexone pellets into a fatty part of your body.  When you wake up, you are finished.  You'll have the naltrexone pellets to keep you from feeling any further drugs if you take them.  Mr. Michael will have the complete answer for you.  Good luck and Blessings.

[row]

I cant do it on my own and I raised enough money to bypass the Hospital and through rapid detox, has anyone herd about that? I herd its painless and more humane, I feel like am also avoiding what I should be going through. I did however justify it by going through 3-4 weeks of withdraw which included no sleep, no energy etc... while I was tappering. But I rasied the money between friends and family and I go in on Tuesday. Has any herd positive or negative things about rapid detox??????

[angst]

the best thing in the world that could happen to you is that all your using buddies know what happened to you.  you have to change
people, places, and things if you want to clean up your act and stay alive.  if you want to live the "cool" life your using buddies are living, you very well may die the next time you use.  Is giving your life to a drug called cocaine that important to you?  
I care about you.  I want to see you live. I'm sure there are others who want to see you live also.  So please stop using before the big one hits you.  Keep posting. Good luck and Blessings.  Ava

[Daiseyd]

Thanks alot !

Since this was a  very occasional indulgence  I know I can Stop.
I am just not  ready to talk to people close to me  about it as I am quiet embaressed  I let it even happen. I promised myself that I would NEVER  do it  again . And I know I can do it . Problem is everyone around me  dabbles in it occasionally. I know they will never give it  to me once they find this out and  probably  will never do it again as  well ...  but cutting myself off from them would be  very hard .. expecially since my boyfriend  does it .. never  around me  but I know he  does ?

[angst]

If I were you, I would not touch the cocaine again.  I had a heart attack in rehab trying to come off benzo's.  I had been taking them for 22 years of my 36 life.  They had me on a slow, deliberate, phenobarb detox.  It kept the seizures at bay, but I had an anterior infarct.  I've always had a funtional heart murmur.  I never expected that.
Each time you use the cocaine you are asking for a heart attack or seizure or worse - JAILS, INSTITUTIONS, OR DEATH -.  If you love anyone in this world or yourself, you will stop.  
First-change people, places, and things.  I had to so I could live without dilaudid.  Next change the behaviors you associate with using cocaine.  Next, but not lastly, get into a good NA or AA group.  We work better as a whole not individually.  I hope the best for you.  Keep posting.  I care about you.  Ava

[Daiseyd]

I read a posting from some time ago .. below
I recently experienced the same thing this weekend .. first time ever feeling this way .. I did go to the hospital .. i was terrified .. It turned out the last Bump I did was of like 80% proof stuff .. and I didn't know ... I honestly thought I was going to die .. my poor boyfriend was freaking too . I went to the hospital and had a heart rate of 130.. normal I guess is between 70-100. Believe me this was my perfect excuse to QUIT .. problem is .. is that it is a social thing .. I only do it 2 or 3 days a month ( fri or sat usually ) and I only usually do on average .5 grams ... My fear is how do I adapt ? for 2 years now this has been habit.... ?
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Subject: Am I having a cocaine overdose?
Topic Area: Drugs
Forum: The Addiction Medicine Forum
Question Posted By: Ckivlan on Tuesday, May 29, 2001


I was in this forum a few months ago with questions about cocaine and alcohol. Well I am back with another question concerning cocaine. Memorial Day.... Did a few backs of cocaine with a friend and felt great! Went home around 2:30am and layed in bed and thats when it all began. My eyes were rolling in the sockets... my heart began to race... I began to sweat... I couldnt breathe very well. I was breathing but it felt like i could not get enough air! I took a hot bath and felt like i was going to faint... took a cold bath...i was freezing. Anyways, I tryed so many things to feel better up until 6:30 am when i finally began to calm down. It is now 12:17 and i slept about 4 hours. My heart was racing so fast I was about to call an ambulance but my mom would kill me before the cocaine would! I was having these weird convulsions. My arms were shaking and my fingers haven been shaking for months. I really felt like i was dying.... I can't explain how horrible I felt. My question: Was I having an overdose??? or was I just going through something that everybody goes through when they do too much cocaine? Couls I have died??? my EXTREME question... I am a 20 female in Miami, Florida.... I dont have a drug habit but i do tend to use cocaine about once a month and i always over do it... I am leaving into the Navy in October so I hope that will help me alot... if I use cocaine again and i feel my heart racing and etc.etc.etc.... can you PLEASE reccomend something to help when im experiencing this? Is there a special remedy? ANYTHING... please name a few things. Thank you so much.
*MiStiCiLLuSionZ*
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[row]

Thank you!

[angst]

It takes time to withdraw from the various drugs. You could go to an addiction doctor, come clean,  accept his/her help for detoxing.  When you get home with new meds, flush most of what is left. You may keep a few, just to see you through the toughest of times.  Find a list of local NA meetings and go.  They are addicts like the rest of us.  Be prepared for hugs at the door.  Hold up your head.  You are no better or worse that the other addicts.  You need lots of positive reinforcement.  You can get that here.  You are welcome here.  We(the forum) will help as much as we can.  Good luck.

[row]

I think I relapsed and I took 20 mg 0f oxy, 2 valium and I drank 2 beers. I want more today for some reason. Shoot. I am upset today. I dont know what to do and Detox seems so far away even thpogh its only on May 20th. i have not put oxy in my body for 2 weeks now I did. I am upset more than I feel ok.

Sorry, but I am trying!

I think I am also being selfish, but as soon as I can help people I will.

Row

[angst]

Thank you for the post.  I've said live and let live, but I hope no one dies because I did not care.  This forum as a whole is much stronger than any one member.  We practice what we preach here on the forum when someone new is welcomed and helped.
I am thankful to you and others on this forum.  It is a blessing to be able to come here and tell others how I am doing things.
Hope the NA meeting goes well.  Be ready for hugs when you walk in the door.

[hippy]

try not to let the fear get to ya, i have it to. But i just keep going. NA is a good place i have been going to na meetings since 19 75, i had 14 years up untill 3 years ago , it was alway good to me , the more i put into it the more i got back, most of the people in my life are members.          peace

[row]

Thank you! And I will keep posting! I am going to my first NA meeting tonight at 5:30 but it seems these people are way ahead of I wish I was there, no physical pain, I am afrarid of the pain.

See you

[hippy]

keep posting.thanks.
Ya ever here the one>
I GOT CLEAN TO SAVE MY ASS AND FOUND OUT IT WAS ATTACHED TO MY SOUL>

[row]

Angst,

Thank you for being there for me and everyone else it looks like.
I read all your stuff. I am very emotional today and I have no work so I only took 1 perc and 1 valium,
I Happy about that but I really did not want to take anything. I just felt so bad and could not even move. I am trying to quit before the 20th but the fatigue is my worst enemy. I really dont get any other withdraws except the fatigue and depression/anviety, I cant move and it scares me. It feels like I am dieing. the 1 perc and 1 val seemed to give me enough energy to say THANK YOU FOR LISTINING TO MY WHINING.

I know other people have it worse than me but to each is own.And I ll tell you what I pray for them too. Not a religious man but very spirtual. My cousin who died 3 years ago of a brain tumor asked me why I was crying when he came out of his coma, He told me that he saw God and you know you God is, he said think of all the wonderful people in your life and in the world and put all there faces together, a big smiling face and that is God, God is you and me and everyone. Its strang in life that how us humans come together and really pour out or love and concern for one another. I always look at that executive with the big house and money and I know deep down there is love and love and understanding conquers all we just have too find a way to unleash it, with or without withdraws.

We are some of the most courages people in the world right on this web site, battling demons, fear and pain. There are others all over the world too, some starving some being abused some with no place to go and that kills me everyday knowing they are victims and I did this to myself. The worst part is that we did it to ourselves and that makes it shamful, BUT what I believe in is the power of redemtion. A person can grow and change and repent for mistakes and misdeeds and be FORGVIN. Faith rests with the individual and the power of redemtion, which begins with accepting responsibility for ones actions. Only with great effort which I see here on this site, all of us can traverse the distance between the person who we are and the person which we once were or want to become. Its not enough to admit this is what Iam and therefore that excuses the behavior.

We need to accept the resposibility and accepting the resposibility is changing the behavior. Changing the behavior is so hard and I am trying to get off drugs so bad, so bad that I cry at night and wonder how I let myself become this. We need to maintain a certain level of decency and accountability. St Marks Admonition:

"What shall it profit a man or woman if he or she gains the whole world  but loses there soul"

I am sorry for sounding too preachy but I hope, when I am healthy and better I too can give back to the world, to this site, to people who are in need. And everyone here has so much courage it really touches me. It touches me to my soul, to the point of tears. It makes me realize what is so important in life. Not material things(those do help) but emotional things, love, hugs, talking to a friend, taking a walk, turning off the TV and reading,hugging a friend hugging anyone, some people are takin back by hugs, Iam starting to love giving hugs to friends and family. My dad was not the most emotional person but he is a good man but I feel I have taught him that a hug is so powerful. Just wake up one day(if you have energy and are not on the toliet, ha ha) and give someone a hug and tell them you love them. Nothing in the whole wide world can take that away, NOTHING. It is the most powerful thing in the world, hugs and love and touching and feeling all that is around, money cant do that. Money is fine dont get me wrong but I would like one person to tell me that money gave them the same pleasure as hugging a child, a friend and mom a dad anyone.

Sorry everyone, I am going off a bit thanks in part to everyone here and Angst for answering my crys and fears.

I WILL MAKE IT, I AM SCARED, I WILL HUG, AND I WILL LOVE. I WILL LISTEN TO ALL OF YOU AND I WILL CRY, I WILL LIVE AGAIN AND I WILL LAUGH AGAIN, I WILL ENJOY THE TIME I HAVE HERE ON EARTH AND I WILL BE KIND, I WILL BE KIND, I WILL BE KIND.

Thank You All!

Row

Thank you all and I will pray for everyone in the whole world that there will be one day, just one day without pain, abuse, violence, anger, sadness, and desperation.

"We Will Get By" " We will survive" The Grateful Dead

[tlk]

Angst -- I've lived in Texas since I was 8. Before that my dad was in the military so I moved every year: Virginia, Oklahoma, New Mexico, several Texas cities, Maine, etc. I was born in Tex though and this is my home. The heat is a *****, but I guess I should be used to it after all these years! 95 degrees this week and counting...

H - I'm glad you get to spend time with your grandson. I might take my kiddos to Spiderman too, if the lines aren't too long. Actually thinking of going on a date with my husband, which we haven't done in a long, long time. Want to finally go to an NA meeting tonight, but that is one thing that causes tension between us. He seems to think now that I've quit it's all over and I'm cured! When I say I need to talk to people about this he says to talk to him. I can't do that. I don't want to tell him all the awful things I've done, and I know he would never understand the compulsion I felt to use. His dad was an alcoholic and addict (it killed him a few years back) and my husband went completely in the opposite direction, won't even take a Tylenol. He did take Vics a few years ago after a car wreck, liked them too much, and promptly quit. Would that we could all do that! Anyway I'm glad you sound happy. Have fun with the little one. tracy

[angst]

Be careful with the valium.  It can be very habit forming.  Going into this with blinders off, you will do better.  I am not saying not to take something (valium) to help with the withdrawals, just know that you need a limited amount so you do not get addicted to it.
Good Luck with your plan.  I hope it works.

[row]

Is valium a good way to aid in the detox process. Its not my choice of drug. I was taking 5 80 mg tabs of oxy a day about 2 weeks ago, now down to about 5 percs and a couple of vics. By the 20th I plan to be at 1-2 percs and then just quit with only the help of the recipe and valium, is that ok????????

I have about 7 -10 days off.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated sine I am freaking out about the unknown.

Courage to all!

[hippy]

hi everybody,
just going one day at a time here, Ya and i knew a lot of people
over the years got cleaned up for a while and then picked up ,and would start using the same amount of drugs that they were using at the end of thier addiction, most of the time with dire consequences. especally heroin/hydro/oxy.
As far as tolerance goes, i always just used more and more ,or got stronger drugs.  the thought of getting back to normal as i stay clean in any area sounds good.,I hope any of the damage i have done to body (liver) ect. can recover.
Well  im 43 and i know my body takes a little more time to hael  than it used too.
On to good news my grand son turns 4 sat. and i am going to take him to see his hero spiderman. I wish i was 4.. I never spent 1 hour with my grand father' he was to busy or not around.
seeing my grand son is one of life's true joy's .
hope everone is well                 peace

[angst]

have you ever lived down south?