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titanium/vanadium/aluminum dental implant

Eleven months ago I had a titanium alloy dental implant along with a sinus lift and bovine bone graft.  The surgery was successful and the implant has since integrated with the bone.  One to two months after the surgery I started having cramps in the lower extremities that progressed to constant aching in the feet and knees.  Five months after the implant I elected to have the swine flu vaccination which resulted in a numb feeling and tingling in the extremities along with diarrhea and dizziness that subsided after a few days.  Since then the tingling has combined with the aching in the lower extremities and progressed upward to include the thighs.  Exercise makes all of the symptoms worse, as I experience severe aching and muscle twitching after any kind of physical activity.  A MRI of the brain and neck revealed increased areas of signal in the brain not consistent with ms.  Blood tests suggest autoimmune disfunction (positive ana, antithyroid antibodies, high IgG for parvovirus and EBV and CMV without being conclusive of connective tissue or thyroid disease.  A cone beam ct scan revealed an inflammatory process in the sinus above the implant and apical periodontal inflammation on the tooth behind the implant which was also giving me night fevers.  I have since had the root canal retreated on the tooth that was being blamed for my mouth discomfort.  This has resulted in a 100% improvement in the pain and feverish feeling emanating from THAT tooth, but I still have an strange irritating sensation emanating from the implant that extends to the cheek, nostril, and eye above the implant.  I have a feeling the implant is the cause of the mouth trouble and wondering if it is the cause of my neurological symptoms as well.  My physical activity has been reduced to a minimum compared to the level of physical activity previous to the surgery.  I wonder if the implant does not show the typical symptoms of rejection because of nightly bronchial and nasal steroid inhalations.  The implant looks good on scans and xrays.  I am not so good.  I am living a life of an inactive person because I have no tolerance for exercise.  I love to exercise and my dogs need a walk!!!  Today I went for a lower back MRI and had a hard time holding still because of feeling crampy and cold.

All of the docs say it is a coincidence that any of my problems started shortly after receiving the implant.  I have sent blood in for the Melisa test, but wonder if a reaction will show being I was not able to refrain from using inhalers for five days.  The implant has adhered to the bone and looks "perfect".  I am ready to get it out and praying I can return to my normal level of activity.  Is there anyone out there with some information that could help?

Am I the only one????  I don't think the ADA or the implant manufacturers want to investigate the possibility of this lucrative procedure being a problem for anyone, so it is hard to find any data supporting my suspicion.  

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I wanted to post on my recent findings because they may apply to others. The results of the MELISA testing came in and I am not allergic to any of the dental implant materials. (A previous test showed I am allergic to gold but I doubt there is gold in titanium implants since the manufacturers can use such cheaper materials.) But I have had such horrible systemic problems for the last 6 months I now suspect I have an ongoing low grade infection around my lower left molar implant. The gum around the implant does not bleed and is not inflamed but throbs incessantly. Each course of antibiotics helps but the pain and systemic symptoms return shortly afterwards. I have found an oral surgeon who, despite my not being allergic, is going to remove this implant September 15- or earlier if there is a cancellation. I am beginning echinacea extract as a preparation for surgery as it more easily penetrates bone; I am worried my chest pain all this time may be endo-carditis related to the ongoing infection and I need to clear this up before getting anesthesia.
I have posted this for the benefit of all- having pain from only one implant when you have many -and that one painful implant being asymptomatic for peri-implantitis- may mean you have an infection in the jawbone at that site. I will post after the removal and list any improvements.
Best of health to all.
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I've had amalgam fillings for over 30 years, and a root canal and crown in 2010, all with no issues. I had a titanium implant on Feb 2 of this year. Almost immediately, I had terrible dry mouth, and either a salty, metallic or bitter taste, all of which the oral surgeon had "never heard of". I had him remove the implant post on March 16 because I was miserable. The problems improved a little, but I still have a metallic taste every day, some days its worse than others, mainly coming from the area of the implant. If I talk for long periods of time (and I am in sales) I get to the point I can no longer speak. I've seen my regular dentist, another dentist, an ENT, and my MD. No one can help. Can the titanium implant kick off a galvanic reaction that does not go away? I've had 2 more amalgams replaced with composite. Might this improve on its own over time? Its been 6 months since the titanium was removed. Is there another type of doctor I should see? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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"Can the titanium implant kick off a galvanic reaction that does not go away? I've had 2 more amalgams replaced with composite. Might this improve on its own over time? Its been 6 months since the titanium was removed. Is there another type of doctor I should see? Any thoughts would be appreciated. "

Biological/holistic dentists will tell you yes, on the galvanic reaction. I am in the middle of this right now myself. I am about to have amalgams and crowns replaced and a root canal tooth pulled. I am sure they are causing me similar (but much much lesser) problems that the implant caused me before it was removed.

The galvanic reaction will cause mercury to be released into your system. I don't believe it will go away on it's own, but if your level isn't too severe it might not cause you any noticeable problems and if you aren't reactive to it. Everybody has different sensitivity levels.

Once you have all the metal out of your mouth, you may need chelation therapy, depending on how you feel and how how bad the metal and mercury levels are in your system. This is something I am just learning about, it appears there are two types of chelation, one is oral (pills and supplements and vitamins I believe) that have a very low absorption rate and are pretty weak overall. The other type is I.V. chelation, which is pretty strong and can be dangerous if not done properly, it has to be done slowly and over time.

Google an organization called DAMS (Dental Amalgam Mercury Solutions), and you can request from them a list of holistic/biological/integrative doctors and dentists in your area. You really need to see these types, the traditional/conventional medical world still thinks this is all hoodoo voodoo and we're all crazy and this metal problem is all in our minds. The good news is there are some doctors and dentists out there who do know the truth and how to treat it, there's just not a whole lot of them.
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Thanks for your response. I have one amalgam that is fairly close to the site of the implant. I think I will have that one out as soon as possible and see if it helps. The metal taste appears to be coming from that general area. I have googled DAMS and will see if there is someone in my area. I'll report back if there is any change after getting rid of this amalgam. I'd like to get my levels tested. I'd like to try the oral chelation and see if it helps. Thanks again for your advice!
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No problem. As I said this is all very new to me and I am in the beginning phases of this process myself (concerning the amalgams and chelation).

I do know you are supposed to go slowly with the amalgam removals, one at a time. That's a key to the whole process, not doing things too quickly. Your body can have big reactions to even small changes, even removing just small amounts of metal from your body can cause huge changes and reactions.

Seeing a holistic or biological dentist is a very important start--the amalgams have to be removed a certain way, and only these types know how to do that without releasing more mercury and maybe other metals into your system. Those type dentists probably have connections with biological or holistic or integrative doctors or can refer you to one who can set up a program regarding the chelation process, or whatever process is best for you to remove metals from your system.

I do believe some people have been able to achieve success with just dietary changes and oral chelation, the proper type doctor can work on that with you.

I was told I needed to start this before we removed the first amalgam, I have been on a program for about 5-6 weeks now taking supplements and vitamins that remove very small amounts of metal, to help my body start adjusting and prepare for all of this. Very important to seek the advice of a good holistic or biological or integrative doctor before getting into all of this.

We will begin replacing the amalgams and crowns in my mouth in about three weeks probably.

Not everybody reports having that metal taste in their mouth, personally I had   a dreadful and very strong taste of metal in my mouth the whole six months my implant was in. That taste went away after it was removed though.

I don't recall DAMS having an actual list of doctors and dentists on their site, but you should be able to find a place on their site where you can request a list, and they will send one to you. I got an email response very quickly and a list showed up in the mail within 3-4 days.

Best of luck with everything.  
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One other interesting side note. The biological dentist I am seeing now, the one who will be replacing my amalgams and crowns, actually told me the galvanization of the metals in my mouth was likely more of a problem than the metal in the implant itself. He said most likely, if I had that implant placed and had no other metals in my mouth, it would have never caused me any problems. However, the reaction between the metals in the implant and the plethora of other metals I have throughout my mouth is what created my problems. That's how much emphasis he puts on the whole galvanization issue.
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Having that implant for 6 weeks was the worse thing I ever did! I wish I could go back in time. I know so many people who get them and have no problems...
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I have now talked to several biological doctors/dentists who believe every person who has any kind of metal in their mouth has problems because of it. Most are chronic issues that play out over a lot of years and are never tied to implants or mercury from fillings. It's just a rare few who are hyper sensitive and have the big and quick reactions like most of us who post messages here.

I've always been pretty sensitive to everything, so looking back it amazes me that I never thought twice about having the titanium implant installed. But I had never heard of anybody having any problems from them, so I never gave it a second thought. Until afterwards and I had all the problems pop up at the same time.
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I read that there are alot of issues when titanium implants are placed.
Are there any succes - stories after they are removed ? I don't read this quite often when i check out the blog.

What can you expect if you choose to replace or remove them ? Is there directly a change in the eventual symptoms that you have ?

Is there more info to find on the internet , like a website ?

Hoping to find some answers.

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Hi Best to settle in with a cup of tea and read from page one.
Lots of good info here!
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So, we did read the entire blog. We ended up talking about the issue for days and finally agreed that we had more questions than we started with.

Especially about the healing - process. Can we contact a professional to discuss the pro and contra's ?


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I wish there were professionals we could turn to on this matter. We are all pretty much pioneers trying to figure it all out.
Please feel free to email me and my dentist is pretty knowledgable about all of this stuff and the dangers of titanium.
Did send private message.
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We will do research.
Can we email the dentist ?

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Is there a delay ? Did you receive our question ? Is there any way we can arrange to meet up with others who had this problem ?

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Joe, I am not sure what your original situation is. I am more comfortable communicating via email or private message here.
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Hi Terry. Thank you for posting this information. I just had my titanium implant removed this morning and have been recovering from a severe Vitamin D deficiency. As a result of the deficiency I believe that my body is suffering from an autoimmune response but of course the two gen practice doctors I went to and multiple specialist believe that my WBC is slightly low because I just have a cold or something. I noticed you said your autoimmune response went into remission through diet. I also went on a very strict, healthy diet that caused my symptoms to nearly disappear. So much so that I forgot about my symptoms and loosened up on my diet which caused the symptoms to return. Anyway, my removal of my fully integrated implant of 8 years, (I struggled with issues from it for that long with no surgeon wanting to remove it), went very quickly and I also had a bone graft. I am hoping that along with the implant removal, and return of my strict diet, my symptoms will subside again. I would like to know what symptoms you are suffering from if you ever return back to this site. Thanks, Renee
Hi Renee, I have none of the symptoms I had. I am recovered. It did take a while though and I do need to be very mindful of my diet. If you can find a holistic MD or natural practioner that may help, but a pure diet and lifestyle will go a long long way to recovery!
PS--it felt really great to write that!!!! What a hell of a journey this has been!!!!
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Terry, just to update you on my status, just today we removed the last of the metal from my mouth. In the last 8 weeks I've had all four wisdom teeth pulled (two had silver/mercury fillings) and pulling them all was a simpler cheaper fix. I also had a bad root canal pulled, and then I had 6 crowns replaced and three more silver/mercury fillings removed. Completely metal free now.

I've been getting small doses of I.V. chelation and I.V. vitamins/minerals once a week for about 10 weeks too....we've slowly worked our way up to half a bag of EDTA my last two visits. At first it made me feel really run down for 3-4 days, then my body adjusted and I've felt almost no ill effects the last couple weeks.

I've just learned from my biological dentist today about a new chelator called OSR that may be available by the end of this calendar year. It's not really "new," the guy had released it previously and the FDA squashed it. He's gotten private funding and is going to release it again as a supplement instead of a drug. It's going to be in a pill form, not I.V. This product is supposed to be especially efficient at targeting mercury and removing it from the body. Here's some info:


I also was exposed to this for the first time today, I cannot believe I've not even heard of this until now:


And I guess maybe you saw this article that appeared in newspapers all around the country the other day:

I'll check those out! I still have a few crowns to go. CONGRATS to you to have your mouth alll metal free now, I know what a big deal that is!!
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Just getting all the metal out of my mouth has made me feel better already. I did not want to resort to the I.V. chelation, in the beginning I wasn't going to, until I found out how loaded I was with about 7 different metals, just off the charts. My holistic and integrative doctors agreed I was going to have to go the I.V. route to get the metals out of my system. At least the EDTA is the "mildest" of the I.V. chelator options, or so I've been told, it just doesn't work on removing mercury. So I'm really glad to hear about his OSR product.

What are you waiting on, get the rest of your crowns replaced! I'll bet you're waiting because you feel good and don't want to rock the boat. That's the reason I waited to get started, I felt good and did not want to mess with anything. Then I started going downhill fast again and had no choice. I'm sure I had the galvanic reaction, and as more metals leaked into my system it finally got to the point where I was feeling bad again.
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I have/had many crowns, just paying for all the dental work the past 9 years, I could have bought a home in an affordable state!! Im not kidding either. Almost there, 3 more I think...
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Thanks to everyone posting here. I was seriously entertaining the idea of getting an implant. You have all changed my mind. I have had all amalgam removed, and had the non-metal crowns. But they didnt last. They tend to shatter easily, and so I am back to metal/porcelain crowns.
It's interesting that the dental community say implants are 95% safe. I wonder how many people have them, and just accept the resulting illnesses, and so never report them.
Sending you all blessings, gratitude, and healing.
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