tumeric

[Shanna707]

Does tumeric thin the blood like traditional antiinflammatory drugs like aspirin or Ibuprofen?

[gymdandee]

Curcumin may match exercise for heart health benefits

http://www.wachters.com/newsarticle.php?newsID=187&PHPSESSID=0f22c0cb8e587cb2188bc4f0a529070c

[gymdandee]

I'm also on the rat poison Warfarin!! The only problem with any supplement Is not all of them will effect your pt/inr But WILL thin the blood!!! You have to be Very careful doing this!!  

[seastar46]

I'm on Warfarin and I read Turmeric increases Warfarin anti-coagulation
activity. I want to decrease Warfarin dose but I need to keep my coagulation time (TP/INR) in 2.0 to 3.0. How much turmeric I would need to take if I took 2.5mg Warfarin?

[gymdandee]

Turmeric and Curcumin Supplements

Two turmeric/curcumin supplements contained far fewer curcuminoids than listed on their labels.  
Advance Physician Formulas Curcumin (“Doctor Formulated”) -- Contained only 18.9 mg of curcuminoids per capsule, less than 10% of the amount expected from its label.
Paradise Herbs & Essentials Turmeric -- Contained only 14.7% of the expected curcuminoids, yielding only 18.4 mg per capsule.

The best value Swanson Superior Herbs Curcumin Complex and Jarrow Formulas Curcumin 95 were each approved products providing 500 mg of curcuminoids at the lowest cost (13 cents). If you are interested in enhanced bioavailability, the Swanson product included Bioperine, which can reportedly more than double the bioavailability. At 17 cents per 500 mg of curcuminoids, Life Extension Super Curcumin with Bioperine was also a good value. Products that include BCM-95 may have even greater bioavailability (about seven times that of normal curcumin). Consequently, although more expensive, Naturally Enhanced Absorption Curcu-Gel (52 cents per 500 mg) and Naturally Enhanced Absorption Curcu-Gel Ultra (39 cents per 500 mg) may be good values, as they may provide equivalent amounts of curcuminoids in the blood as other products but using much lower doses.

[Paxiled]

Don't know exactly what tumeric supplement you're taking or why.  Tumeric as far as I know isn't a blood thinner.  It's an antiinflammatory and very good for liver support.  However, it's a hot herb, so it could aggravate your GERD, and it might not.  Depends on how you respond to hot herbs.  You can help with your GERD by trying a couple ounces of aloe juice every day starting dose; DGL might help as well.  Don't lie down right after eating.  For anti-inflammatory purposes, tumeric is usually used standardized for circumin, and combined with other anti-inlammatories, as natural remedies are usually used in combination.  I use it in a combination with ginger, another hot herb; I take it with meals to avoid any back-up, if you know what I mean.  I also take proteolytic enzymes, protein digesting enzymes, away from meals, which also helps fight inflammation -- the one most known is bromelain -- and anti-histamines such as freeze dried nettles and scutellaria; boswellia and devil's claw are also good anti-inflammatories especially for arthritis.  As to the EHB, I don't know the company, but I would only take it when I was sick, not regularly.  Echinacea shouldn't be taken on a regular basis, as it can overtax the immune system.  Goldenseal shouldn't be taken regularly, as it is an anti nutrient -- anti bacterial, anti fungal.  Antis should only be taken as needed to prevent bacteria and such from becoming resistant to them and to avoid cleaning out good stuff from your system.  An astragalus based formula would be better for regular immune system use, unless your immune system problems are due to an overactive system, in which case a supplement called Moducare might be better.  And as mentioned previously on the CM forum, when you cook with herbs you do lose much of what makes them effective for certain things, and you use so little that you really don't get much effect anyway.  On the other hand, all those herbs found in curries such as turmeric are believed to have been used originally for their anti-bacterial effect to keep food from becoming infected.  The taste was thought to be a bonus.

[Shanna707]

Thanks for all the info.  I think a few weeks ago I may have caused a lower GI bleed because I started taking diclofenac and turmeric for my RA.  I think it was on overload on inhibition of blood clotting.  I''m fine now after stopping both but I think I will start the turmeric back up now and not the diclofenac which is hard on my GERD anyway.

I was recommended a product from the whole foods store by an herbalist called EHB by integrative Therapeutics, inc.  It has standardized echinacosides, hydrastine, and berbering for immune-support. Have you heard of it or have any view on it.  It also has bomelain in it.  What is your opinion??
Thanks M4,
Shanna

[margypops]

I have used turmeric for quite a while, I put it into a lot of things I eat I have eggs with it sprinkled on and soup is really tasted when some is added to it...I didnt realise it was so beneficial ...

[M4Y0U]

One of the many benefits Tumeric have is the anti-coagulation propriety indeed.

''Turmeric
The spice turmeric also has exhibited powerful anti-coagulant properties due to its ability to inhibit the formation of fibrinogen, a plasma protein that plays a key final role in the cascade that results in blood clotting. Elevated fibrinogen blood levels have been identified in a number of studies to be a major risk factor for coronary heart disease and cerebrovascular disease (strokes), exceeding the contributions of homocysteine, cholesterol and other lipid parameters in the pathogenesis of these diseases.

Turmeric can reduce fibrinogen levels, thereby inhibiting blood clotting.2-3 In one study by scientists in Spain, researchers selected eight subjects with elevated fibrinogen levels and treated them with 20 mg of Curcuma longa (turmeric) extract per day. After only 15 days, previously elevated levels of fibrinogen plummeted in all eight subjects.4

Other research shows that turmeric-derived curcumin can directly inhibit arachidonic acid-www.ed platelet aggregation, possibly by virtue of its ability to inhibit the clotting factor known as thromboxane A2.5''

http://www.vrp.com/articles.aspx?ProdID=art1170&zTYPE=2

Best regards,
M4