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A Real Problem or The Power of The Mind?
Hello,
I think this is the right spot for my post as I have been suffering from anxiety, paranoia and being generally nervous since last oct.
I have posted here before in the 'STI' section and the reason for my upset, I became very upset with worry about HIV for some time, had 3tests over 4months and have been told that I'm all clear and the GUM (I'm in the UK) are not concerned about me.
The reason for my ongoing anxiety is the fact I have been suffering from an upset tongue since mid dec (dark red, sore looking down the middle with dry fuzzy feeling) which has since turned to oral thrush (I have white patches on/down the middle of the surface of the tongue with the dry fuzzy feeling) in the last 2months or so. One reason for these problems could be a 1week course of strong antibiotics I took about 3months ago (3tabs, 4times a day= 12tabs a day), once I finished them the tongue issue started and has continued to date, but I took them 3months ago, could my tongue have been that badly affected?
Just recently in the last week I have had a sore red patch on my upper gums at the back of my mouth (above the back teeth) which has now turned into a small ulcer type spot. I realise it could be an ulcer but I've never had one last a week and my gums above my back teeth were quite red and sore looking before this happened, its the same on the other side too but not too bad and just a sore patch, no ulcer type spot on the other side yet.
Basically this isn't helping my mental health and I'm really very anxious and nervous with worry about whats going on and why I have these problems. Could this all be simply the power of my mind and I'm running down my own immune system with constant worry!!? is it possible that the power of the mind can do this and cause such symptoms!!??
One thing has led to another ever since last oct when I started getting odd symptoms which led me to worry about HIV even though I now know I was never really at risk (recieved unprotected oral sex from women on 3occasions). I want to get on with my life but I can't shake these problems and I'm terrified I may have mouth cancer or even HIV still....I can't help it, if the problems weren't here I wouldn't worry...simple.
I have been advised by the health adviser at the GUM clinic that its very possible that its all mental and I'm doing it myself but I really need other peoples advice and knowledge here, more opinions would be helpful :) thanku.
I think this is the right spot for my post as I have been suffering from anxiety, paranoia and being generally nervous since last oct.
I have posted here before in the 'STI' section and the reason for my upset, I became very upset with worry about HIV for some time, had 3tests over 4months and have been told that I'm all clear and the GUM (I'm in the UK) are not concerned about me.
The reason for my ongoing anxiety is the fact I have been suffering from an upset tongue since mid dec (dark red, sore looking down the middle with dry fuzzy feeling) which has since turned to oral thrush (I have white patches on/down the middle of the surface of the tongue with the dry fuzzy feeling) in the last 2months or so. One reason for these problems could be a 1week course of strong antibiotics I took about 3months ago (3tabs, 4times a day= 12tabs a day), once I finished them the tongue issue started and has continued to date, but I took them 3months ago, could my tongue have been that badly affected?
Just recently in the last week I have had a sore red patch on my upper gums at the back of my mouth (above the back teeth) which has now turned into a small ulcer type spot. I realise it could be an ulcer but I've never had one last a week and my gums above my back teeth were quite red and sore looking before this happened, its the same on the other side too but not too bad and just a sore patch, no ulcer type spot on the other side yet.
Basically this isn't helping my mental health and I'm really very anxious and nervous with worry about whats going on and why I have these problems. Could this all be simply the power of my mind and I'm running down my own immune system with constant worry!!? is it possible that the power of the mind can do this and cause such symptoms!!??
One thing has led to another ever since last oct when I started getting odd symptoms which led me to worry about HIV even though I now know I was never really at risk (recieved unprotected oral sex from women on 3occasions). I want to get on with my life but I can't shake these problems and I'm terrified I may have mouth cancer or even HIV still....I can't help it, if the problems weren't here I wouldn't worry...simple.
I have been advised by the health adviser at the GUM clinic that its very possible that its all mental and I'm doing it myself but I really need other peoples advice and knowledge here, more opinions would be helpful :) thanku.
Hello me again :) just wanted to let you know how Im doing.
Well Ive been on caprylic acid tabs everyday, coconut oil twice a day and Ive been eating raw garlic (1/2 cloves) n onion almost every night whilst cutting down on my sugar intake which is damn hard, been like this for about 1month 1/2.
Recently had a ENT apointment which came after about 3months, doc said it was candida and glossitis and gave me fluconazole, 2weeks worth, so Im about 3days into that.
After starting on the natural medicines of garlic, coconut oil etc...I did see an instant improvement in my mouth for sure, it did seem to rollercoaster abit though with the white areas looking as though they were going then coming back abit, the back of my tongue never seemed to wanna clear. I started to combine garlic with onion and that seemed to have better results but Im unsure if the coconut oil of caprylic acid tabs have been any good. I must admit these fluconazole tabs do seem to be helping now too as Ive only had three now and the white areas have gone completely :) still getting a fuzzy/dry feeling from time to time though, hoping that will go by the time I finish the 2weeks.
So fingers crossed :) only thing is Im still getting these damn minor headaches and slight dizzy spells every so often, had these now since last Oct off and on. Im unsure if this is the candida, if my mouth clears up but I still have this problem does that mean I still have a candida issue? or should I get this checked out as something else?
I have seen the doc about it before but it was put down to anxiety (of course) but I know it cant be that cos it just appeared out of the blue last Oct when I was fine with no health worries (it was these headaches that started off my whole anxiety/depressive state and made me fear everything as you know). What do you guys/gals think?
Hope everyone is well :)
Well Ive been on caprylic acid tabs everyday, coconut oil twice a day and Ive been eating raw garlic (1/2 cloves) n onion almost every night whilst cutting down on my sugar intake which is damn hard, been like this for about 1month 1/2.
Recently had a ENT apointment which came after about 3months, doc said it was candida and glossitis and gave me fluconazole, 2weeks worth, so Im about 3days into that.
After starting on the natural medicines of garlic, coconut oil etc...I did see an instant improvement in my mouth for sure, it did seem to rollercoaster abit though with the white areas looking as though they were going then coming back abit, the back of my tongue never seemed to wanna clear. I started to combine garlic with onion and that seemed to have better results but Im unsure if the coconut oil of caprylic acid tabs have been any good. I must admit these fluconazole tabs do seem to be helping now too as Ive only had three now and the white areas have gone completely :) still getting a fuzzy/dry feeling from time to time though, hoping that will go by the time I finish the 2weeks.
So fingers crossed :) only thing is Im still getting these damn minor headaches and slight dizzy spells every so often, had these now since last Oct off and on. Im unsure if this is the candida, if my mouth clears up but I still have this problem does that mean I still have a candida issue? or should I get this checked out as something else?
I have seen the doc about it before but it was put down to anxiety (of course) but I know it cant be that cos it just appeared out of the blue last Oct when I was fine with no health worries (it was these headaches that started off my whole anxiety/depressive state and made me fear everything as you know). What do you guys/gals think?
Hope everyone is well :)
Well, my tongue was definately reacting to the antibiotics. The thing is every and any time I have taken antibiotics I ask for the Diflucan. But I suppose that doesn't mean that it would stop a yeast infection. I just didn't see it.My concerns and anxieties were because I get weird stuff. When half your tongue is purple and painful that is weird. Five years ago I was diagnosed with Sweet's syndrome (Dr's never determined why I got It) my health has gone downhill since. Anyway my tongue still feels kinda scorched now. But, I have been on and off so many different drugs, it could be a side effect from one of them.
Yeah Ive had many different views on my prob and like you I too had the deep red thing going on but I didnt have pain...instead I got the white patches it seems. But yes it does seem the pro's couldnt decide wether I had glossitis or fungi infection, no on ever said candida though and Ive read that doctors dont seem to accept it as a proper problem.
Ive been eating raw garlic for almost a week now and taking garlic tabs too, also raw onion and my tongue does look better (touch wood). Its still abit white and patchy at the very back but the middle and sides are or seem to be clearing....I hope
I had a B12 and Iron blood test in feb this yr and I was ok.
Ive been eating raw garlic for almost a week now and taking garlic tabs too, also raw onion and my tongue does look better (touch wood). Its still abit white and patchy at the very back but the middle and sides are or seem to be clearing....I hope
I had a B12 and Iron blood test in feb this yr and I was ok.
Last year I was on and off antibiotics for several months and my tongue discolored on one side, it became very dark red almost purple(like a bruise) very sensitive, burning sensation. I never developed any white patches (yeast like). When I would go off the antibiotics, within a week the coloring would go away. Start the antibiotics within 72 hours of taking them I could feel the sensation coming back to my tongue and then the discoloring. My Doc said it was yeast....but when I questioned her nurse about it being yeast she said no it was glossitis. I haven't had any antibiotics in a year now and am a little fearful of it coming back. Mine was painful! And it doesn't help my anxieties. I have had a very hard time with Doctors and getting the help I need. BTW I was deficient in Vit D and my B 12 was dropping at the time. Take time to take care of your body!
I just noticed, why is yeast infection under 'STD' on this site?? thats not right is it?
Oh and I also got myself some organic green tea and organic licorice tea as herbal teas contain things that help fight candida....so I read, but it does seem that coconut oil is the best stuff.
Well I went to the dentist today as well :) he said straight out it looks like a candida problem and gave me (yet another) mouth wash hehe Peroxyl, he said it will get into the tongue surface.
But his very quick look and even quicker answer was much better than about four different trips to the doc who both seem unable to give me a straight answer and make me think they are incompetent.
So I will try the dentists mouthwash for 1week, I also got myself some odourless garlic capsules, 500mg per cap, (allium sativum, bulb?? that good? I know you need this but unsure on figures and none are really given on the label) so I'm taking two of those per day as I read you need between 600-900mg daily intake.Got these from Holland n Barrett, they dont seem to do freeze dried tabs anywhere accept that eco-balance pack but I also read that in tab form the garlic can be harsh on the stomach.
Still on the seven seas multibionta probiotic too.
Did see coconut oil but the lady there didnt think you could just eat it straight up like say cod liver oil, so if anyone can advice on that :) I read people do take afew tablespoonfuls per day of coconut oil but is this correct? doesnt seem right as it does seem mainly for cooking and could upset your insides.
As for having anxiety, yes I am a very anxious person and a very nervous and paranoid person, get it from my mum, I always have been and cant help it really, I do always think the worst but Ive never had anything like this before, infact Im hardly ever ill and Ive never been into hospital or anything ever, always at work about 98% of the time. The reason Im so upset and anxious about this is the fact it hasnt gone away, normally you get something you take medicine and it goes away, as this hasnt it worries me and makes me depressed cos I know I have a problem and not 100% healthy, I keep thinking I shouldnt be having these issues till Im at least 50+ hehe
But yes basically I worry something serious is behind it mainly as it doesnt go and Im normally very healthy, Im a distance runner (not as much now) and have always been in good shape so it depresses me that this is going on.
But his very quick look and even quicker answer was much better than about four different trips to the doc who both seem unable to give me a straight answer and make me think they are incompetent.
So I will try the dentists mouthwash for 1week, I also got myself some odourless garlic capsules, 500mg per cap, (allium sativum, bulb?? that good? I know you need this but unsure on figures and none are really given on the label) so I'm taking two of those per day as I read you need between 600-900mg daily intake.Got these from Holland n Barrett, they dont seem to do freeze dried tabs anywhere accept that eco-balance pack but I also read that in tab form the garlic can be harsh on the stomach.
Still on the seven seas multibionta probiotic too.
Did see coconut oil but the lady there didnt think you could just eat it straight up like say cod liver oil, so if anyone can advice on that :) I read people do take afew tablespoonfuls per day of coconut oil but is this correct? doesnt seem right as it does seem mainly for cooking and could upset your insides.
As for having anxiety, yes I am a very anxious person and a very nervous and paranoid person, get it from my mum, I always have been and cant help it really, I do always think the worst but Ive never had anything like this before, infact Im hardly ever ill and Ive never been into hospital or anything ever, always at work about 98% of the time. The reason Im so upset and anxious about this is the fact it hasnt gone away, normally you get something you take medicine and it goes away, as this hasnt it worries me and makes me depressed cos I know I have a problem and not 100% healthy, I keep thinking I shouldnt be having these issues till Im at least 50+ hehe
But yes basically I worry something serious is behind it mainly as it doesnt go and Im normally very healthy, Im a distance runner (not as much now) and have always been in good shape so it depresses me that this is going on.
Just wanted to follow up on the mouth sores issue, I did ask my dentist about recurring mouth sores last week during a regular checkup and he suggested that since it was not linked to an injury or poor tooth/gum health, it may be linked to stress or food allergies. I believe him on the stress part because I get them most frequently when in periods of high stress. For food allergies, he mentioned acidic foods could be a culprit (OJ, tomatoes, cola etc.). Anyway it's another idea.
That aside, I really do like what trdofbeingtrd said on the 20th.... it is very good advice. I have a hard time believing what a doctor is telling me and feel that I need to seek other opinions etc. frequently when certain symptoms flare up... researching the symptoms does me NO good because it makes me think that I have a more severe problem than I actually might have and that makes my other symptoms (which are linked to stress and anxiety) worse. Feeling or knowing that something is severely wrong but it is going unnoticed when you have had confirmation to the contrary is a hallmark of hypochondria. If you have a good relationship with your doctor, you should be getting answers to ALL your questions, and try to allow yourself to believe in those answers and follow the treatment suggestions; if you don't have a good relationship or feel that you're not being listened to or helped very much, it might be time to find a new doctor. I just recently switched to a new doctor because I felt my old doctor was not really helping me very much, was very distant and didn't really give me a 'plan' to follow, and I am so glad that I did - I now have an overall treatment plan that I fully understand and can manage a little myself, and overall I feel I am pointed in the right direction. It is an incredible relief.
Even if you don't think you have anxiety over your health and that there still may be a real problem, it may at least be worth mentioning to your doctor the level of worry that you have at your next appointment, and how it is affecting you. This may help the doctor either reassure you or explain things in a way you can understand better or give you more concrete directions/a longer term plan to follow (i.e. "if this doesn't work, we are going to try this"). It can also also help him or her address that anxious feeling about there being something wrong so you can start to differentiate (for yourself and for the doctor) between an anxious feeling and the actual problem.
That aside, I really do like what trdofbeingtrd said on the 20th.... it is very good advice. I have a hard time believing what a doctor is telling me and feel that I need to seek other opinions etc. frequently when certain symptoms flare up... researching the symptoms does me NO good because it makes me think that I have a more severe problem than I actually might have and that makes my other symptoms (which are linked to stress and anxiety) worse. Feeling or knowing that something is severely wrong but it is going unnoticed when you have had confirmation to the contrary is a hallmark of hypochondria. If you have a good relationship with your doctor, you should be getting answers to ALL your questions, and try to allow yourself to believe in those answers and follow the treatment suggestions; if you don't have a good relationship or feel that you're not being listened to or helped very much, it might be time to find a new doctor. I just recently switched to a new doctor because I felt my old doctor was not really helping me very much, was very distant and didn't really give me a 'plan' to follow, and I am so glad that I did - I now have an overall treatment plan that I fully understand and can manage a little myself, and overall I feel I am pointed in the right direction. It is an incredible relief.
Even if you don't think you have anxiety over your health and that there still may be a real problem, it may at least be worth mentioning to your doctor the level of worry that you have at your next appointment, and how it is affecting you. This may help the doctor either reassure you or explain things in a way you can understand better or give you more concrete directions/a longer term plan to follow (i.e. "if this doesn't work, we are going to try this"). It can also also help him or her address that anxious feeling about there being something wrong so you can start to differentiate (for yourself and for the doctor) between an anxious feeling and the actual problem.
OK so Ive been reading up on yeast infections etc...and I do now believe I could very well have just that :(
I started getting slight headaches, hot sensation on my forehead last Oct, then in Dec I got the dark red smooth tongue and fuzzy feeling issue after the antibiotics (probably didnt help), then about march I got the white tongue issue combined with all of the above.
I have also been thinking about my diet and lifestyle allot and I admit that in the last year or so I have been eating a very high sugar diet including chocolate, biscuits, energy drinks, fizzy drinks (soda), desserts etc...I do exercise with running and I am actually pretty fit as I have been a distance runner since I was 18 and I used to have a very strict diet outlook. This went out of the window in the last 2yrs as I started to wind down and get bored of my strict diet, I still run but not as much, but I still do it, despite this I tend to eat what I like as Im very slim and I believe I have a high metabolism.
Is it possible I have brought on a yeast infection through a high sugar diet these last 2yrs or so?? Im sure the antibiotics didnt help and may have tipped things over the top but is this possible? I have read that yeast infections can cause a wide variety of issues like spots, headaches, depression, tiredness etc...now I have been getting headaches as said and I do suffer from spots too, had a bad spell recently but not just on my face but my neck (where I shave typically) and shoulders/back, not saying this is the reason as I have always been prone to spots in exactly the same places, sometimes I have bad spells..it just happens.
Im gonna get some garlic tabs and change my diet as best I can, bloody hard though as Ive looked up what to eat, unfortunately Ive been eating bananas, pears for lunch for quite awhile and just found out they are no good due to the sugar amounts :( This could be one reason why I have had no luck in getting shot of my problem...that and the chocolate of course :(
Work is an issue though, I work night shifts and chocolate is a good quick fix when working.
So diet change as much as possible and garlic tabs,
can you take garlic tabs with other supplements over the course of a day?
I started getting slight headaches, hot sensation on my forehead last Oct, then in Dec I got the dark red smooth tongue and fuzzy feeling issue after the antibiotics (probably didnt help), then about march I got the white tongue issue combined with all of the above.
I have also been thinking about my diet and lifestyle allot and I admit that in the last year or so I have been eating a very high sugar diet including chocolate, biscuits, energy drinks, fizzy drinks (soda), desserts etc...I do exercise with running and I am actually pretty fit as I have been a distance runner since I was 18 and I used to have a very strict diet outlook. This went out of the window in the last 2yrs as I started to wind down and get bored of my strict diet, I still run but not as much, but I still do it, despite this I tend to eat what I like as Im very slim and I believe I have a high metabolism.
Is it possible I have brought on a yeast infection through a high sugar diet these last 2yrs or so?? Im sure the antibiotics didnt help and may have tipped things over the top but is this possible? I have read that yeast infections can cause a wide variety of issues like spots, headaches, depression, tiredness etc...now I have been getting headaches as said and I do suffer from spots too, had a bad spell recently but not just on my face but my neck (where I shave typically) and shoulders/back, not saying this is the reason as I have always been prone to spots in exactly the same places, sometimes I have bad spells..it just happens.
Im gonna get some garlic tabs and change my diet as best I can, bloody hard though as Ive looked up what to eat, unfortunately Ive been eating bananas, pears for lunch for quite awhile and just found out they are no good due to the sugar amounts :( This could be one reason why I have had no luck in getting shot of my problem...that and the chocolate of course :(
Work is an issue though, I work night shifts and chocolate is a good quick fix when working.
So diet change as much as possible and garlic tabs,
can you take garlic tabs with other supplements over the course of a day?
James, you have had not just one but 3 HIV tests, you became convinced you had mouth cancer, you dont trust what your G.U.M doctors or G.P doctors are telling you, i even doubt that when you are indeed seen by your Dentist you will actually fully trust the advice he/she will give you.
Plus the reason as to why you like the advise nursegirl has given you is because you choose to 'Pick out the little bits you like and actually Hear'.... but in actual fact Nursegirl has clearly said that she has been told that pro-biotics yogurts arnt all that effective. If you do indeed need to replenish the good bacteria in your gut, then these yogurts, even though wont do any harm, wont do much good either.... The levels within them are considerably far lower than that of the capsules that i was suggesting.
The thing is when this situation clears up and another health situation occurs you will be back to square one, doubting and going from doctor to doctor, forum to forum trying to get answers.
You may think i am wrong for stating this but it has become clear to me what treatment you really do need. maybe enquiring about anxiety medication such as a benzo or SSRI along with therapy may be an idea as well, as it will help you to stop focusing on your inner being and help you to project your attention on the outside world more and relax.
Plus the reason as to why you like the advise nursegirl has given you is because you choose to 'Pick out the little bits you like and actually Hear'.... but in actual fact Nursegirl has clearly said that she has been told that pro-biotics yogurts arnt all that effective. If you do indeed need to replenish the good bacteria in your gut, then these yogurts, even though wont do any harm, wont do much good either.... The levels within them are considerably far lower than that of the capsules that i was suggesting.
The thing is when this situation clears up and another health situation occurs you will be back to square one, doubting and going from doctor to doctor, forum to forum trying to get answers.
You may think i am wrong for stating this but it has become clear to me what treatment you really do need. maybe enquiring about anxiety medication such as a benzo or SSRI along with therapy may be an idea as well, as it will help you to stop focusing on your inner being and help you to project your attention on the outside world more and relax.
I get what you are saying, and sadly because of how society treats illnesses, when someone says hypochondria, it means you are some psycho at home with tin foil on their head wondering when the next person will give them avian bird flu. Your posts and the words you use show that you most likely do have hypochondria. It could be from your anxiety, or, your anxiety could be from it.
I'm not a doctor or psychiatrist. You could very well NOT be a hypochondriac. I see what you are saying. If you had a third doctor check you out, it would make three, and if you told this third doctor that you have a problem with the first two diagnosis from your other doctors because you don't like that one says it's normal, the other don't, it will help him/her understand why you are acting the way you are.
I apologize if it seems like I am insulting you. I could have it all wrong.
I'm not a doctor or psychiatrist. You could very well NOT be a hypochondriac. I see what you are saying. If you had a third doctor check you out, it would make three, and if you told this third doctor that you have a problem with the first two diagnosis from your other doctors because you don't like that one says it's normal, the other don't, it will help him/her understand why you are acting the way you are.
I apologize if it seems like I am insulting you. I could have it all wrong.
I don't get how you guys have come up with these replies, in my last post I simply asked about taking supplements and the best way to take them eg. with or without food, two types in one day.
I like Nursegirl's reply about the yogurts and I can see what she means, as I said I agree with that.
I mention about my tongue as it is now and the what the doc said BUT I've had two different anwsers from two docs which contradict each other so I'm kinda stuck in the middle, I'm seeing my dentist next week as my docs instruction to do so.
So how/why are you both accusing me of not listening to advice!? where did that come from?
I wouldn't say I'm a hypochondriac I just feel/know something is wrong but I feel that its going un-noticed.
I like Nursegirl's reply about the yogurts and I can see what she means, as I said I agree with that.
I mention about my tongue as it is now and the what the doc said BUT I've had two different anwsers from two docs which contradict each other so I'm kinda stuck in the middle, I'm seeing my dentist next week as my docs instruction to do so.
So how/why are you both accusing me of not listening to advice!? where did that come from?
I wouldn't say I'm a hypochondriac I just feel/know something is wrong but I feel that its going un-noticed.
A huge problem with hypochondria is that the person is unable to trust when someone says things "look normal". There is always that hidden problem that goes uncaught (this is how the hypochondriac sees it) and it's the one that will take them down.
The way I do it, so I can keep as healthy of a balance as possible, is to understand that blood tests are like 99% accurate and it's extremely rare that a person is that 1%. When I have a physical evaluation that involves no tests of blood, saliva, urine, or stool, it's on me to either trust the doctor or not. The way I look at it, is if the doctor listens to me (I don't mean agrees with everything I say or just shakes their head yes. I mean when I can tell the doctor is caring about my concerns and addresses them, regardless if I have a real worry or not) then chances are, I feel like I can trust them. So if I explain the issues I feel I might have, and they address them, I feel I can trust them. If they say I look normal, that I don't have any problems, I take their word for it. I have come a LONG way regarding my hypochondria. I used to be so bad that all I would have to do is read about an illness and then convince myself I have the illness.
James, if you find a doctor that addresses your issues, regardless if they say there is something wrong or not, chances are that you can trust him/her. Now then, if your doctor dosen't listen to your concerns, it's time for a new doctor, not just because of you trusting their word, but because for people like you and I to be able to control our hypochondria we need to feel that safety and trust or we can never get grip on our illness (hypochondria). If you feel your current doctor is not addressing every single health issue you have (you pay them money, therefore, to the people who say it's a waste of time, I say that if you pay for a service, you should get that service to your satisfaction excluding letting the hypochondria take control), then it's time to get a different doctor. If you are not satisfied with your current doctor and just keep going, then, you are wasting your time and his/her time.
Something that helps to start getting a control over your issue is to read up on how to stay healthy (vitamins, exercise, and proper diet) and for the time being, STAY AWAY from learning about new illnesses. When you don't have control over your hypochondria, going over illnesses is the worst thing just about.
It's true though, when you ask for help and shoot down any and all advice, people will wonder what it is that you really want. This site has a lot of people who will give support and information, but when they try and it seems they cannot give help, it becomes frustrating.
The way I do it, so I can keep as healthy of a balance as possible, is to understand that blood tests are like 99% accurate and it's extremely rare that a person is that 1%. When I have a physical evaluation that involves no tests of blood, saliva, urine, or stool, it's on me to either trust the doctor or not. The way I look at it, is if the doctor listens to me (I don't mean agrees with everything I say or just shakes their head yes. I mean when I can tell the doctor is caring about my concerns and addresses them, regardless if I have a real worry or not) then chances are, I feel like I can trust them. So if I explain the issues I feel I might have, and they address them, I feel I can trust them. If they say I look normal, that I don't have any problems, I take their word for it. I have come a LONG way regarding my hypochondria. I used to be so bad that all I would have to do is read about an illness and then convince myself I have the illness.
James, if you find a doctor that addresses your issues, regardless if they say there is something wrong or not, chances are that you can trust him/her. Now then, if your doctor dosen't listen to your concerns, it's time for a new doctor, not just because of you trusting their word, but because for people like you and I to be able to control our hypochondria we need to feel that safety and trust or we can never get grip on our illness (hypochondria). If you feel your current doctor is not addressing every single health issue you have (you pay them money, therefore, to the people who say it's a waste of time, I say that if you pay for a service, you should get that service to your satisfaction excluding letting the hypochondria take control), then it's time to get a different doctor. If you are not satisfied with your current doctor and just keep going, then, you are wasting your time and his/her time.
Something that helps to start getting a control over your issue is to read up on how to stay healthy (vitamins, exercise, and proper diet) and for the time being, STAY AWAY from learning about new illnesses. When you don't have control over your hypochondria, going over illnesses is the worst thing just about.
It's true though, when you ask for help and shoot down any and all advice, people will wonder what it is that you really want. This site has a lot of people who will give support and information, but when they try and it seems they cannot give help, it becomes frustrating.
U know James, it seems that no matter what anyone advises you it is not good enough. Both myself and nursegirl have given you some real pearls of wisdom and yet u question every word of it. Its not just us but u question ur doctors, ur dentist and it just seems to me that u will never truely be satified with anything anyone says. I feel like we are wasting our time.
If u take anything from this thread then take this piece of information, go to your doctor and get a referral to see a psychologist and sort out your trust issues and health anxiety. Otherwise u are simply going to spend the rest of your life like a dog chhasing it tail and getting no where.
I hope for ur sake u listen to that piece of advice and now I shall bit you a fond fare well and hope u do the right thing.
If u take anything from this thread then take this piece of information, go to your doctor and get a referral to see a psychologist and sort out your trust issues and health anxiety. Otherwise u are simply going to spend the rest of your life like a dog chhasing it tail and getting no where.
I hope for ur sake u listen to that piece of advice and now I shall bit you a fond fare well and hope u do the right thing.
^ Good reply, I agree, I'm on the probiotic multibionta tabs right now, see how that goes for afew months and I'm gonna try and find a good garlic supplement too (any suggestions welcome), keeping that eco-balance in mind too just incase.
Couple questions, I have been taking cod liver oil tabs for afew yrs now but I've always wondered whats the best way to take them, I have always had a small bite to eat then take the tab with a cold drink straight after so not on an empty stomach (normally at lunchtime as thats when I get up as I work nights), that ok? the food doesn't take anything away from the tabs effectiveness right?
Also....can you take two different types of supplement on the same day or at the same time? eg. if I take a probiotic tab can I take a garlic tab straight after? or maybe later in the day?
Is it possible to over intake on vitamins, probiotics, minerals etc...?
At the mo my tongue is white/pale at the very back and down the middle but not all the way to the end (on the surface). But the lower half and up the sides abit (on the surface) is very red and sore looking (in an almost semi circle shape at the bottom of the tongue) and this is where I get the fuzzy dry tingly sensation, its a 50/50 situation hehe
Doc reckoned the white area was normal but looked bad as the red area was very red in contrast...I'm confused, I dunno wether my tongue is too red or too white, maybe the dentist can shed some light on it.
Couple questions, I have been taking cod liver oil tabs for afew yrs now but I've always wondered whats the best way to take them, I have always had a small bite to eat then take the tab with a cold drink straight after so not on an empty stomach (normally at lunchtime as thats when I get up as I work nights), that ok? the food doesn't take anything away from the tabs effectiveness right?
Also....can you take two different types of supplement on the same day or at the same time? eg. if I take a probiotic tab can I take a garlic tab straight after? or maybe later in the day?
Is it possible to over intake on vitamins, probiotics, minerals etc...?
At the mo my tongue is white/pale at the very back and down the middle but not all the way to the end (on the surface). But the lower half and up the sides abit (on the surface) is very red and sore looking (in an almost semi circle shape at the bottom of the tongue) and this is where I get the fuzzy dry tingly sensation, its a 50/50 situation hehe
Doc reckoned the white area was normal but looked bad as the red area was very red in contrast...I'm confused, I dunno wether my tongue is too red or too white, maybe the dentist can shed some light on it.
I personally have been told by a few colleagues that the yogurts aren't all that effective, especially if you're trying to "fix" a problem. To maintain a certain level of "normalcy", maybe they would work. It's the same concept as the idea that cranberry juice is the cure-all for urinary issues. Several Urologists I've asked said that a person would have to drink literally gallons of the stuff a day for it to make any difference. I think the same probably applies to the yogurt.
Personally, if you enjoy yogurt, then eat it....it is good for you, despite what may or may not be true of the extensiveness of the probiotic qualities.
Some people swear by certain things...if it works for someone, I am all for it...but just not a substitute to seeking medical help when a symptom arises.
Personally, if you enjoy yogurt, then eat it....it is good for you, despite what may or may not be true of the extensiveness of the probiotic qualities.
Some people swear by certain things...if it works for someone, I am all for it...but just not a substitute to seeking medical help when a symptom arises.
The multibionta has all the probiotic stuff which is good, I will look for a H n B, I'm in south London so should find one. What do you reckon to these probiotic yogurts? I've been eating these for awhile now but unsure if they are just a gimmick.
I am really interested in the eco-balance but alittle unsure if the cinnamon parts might upset me as I have a nut allergy and cinnamon doesn't agree with me too well, also unsure about the shrimp shell bit....I'm alittle prone to certain things upsetting me hehe must have delicate insides hehe kiwi's upset me too for some reason. Are you sure eco isn't for just for people with yeast infections? I know men can get that down below as women do but I don't have that issue.
What do you reckon to the docs opinion? I've had one doc tell me it can take months for this sort of thing to sort itself out yet another tell me it shouldn't really last this long, dunno if one is just trying to calm me down maybe.
I am really interested in the eco-balance but alittle unsure if the cinnamon parts might upset me as I have a nut allergy and cinnamon doesn't agree with me too well, also unsure about the shrimp shell bit....I'm alittle prone to certain things upsetting me hehe must have delicate insides hehe kiwi's upset me too for some reason. Are you sure eco isn't for just for people with yeast infections? I know men can get that down below as women do but I don't have that issue.
What do you reckon to the docs opinion? I've had one doc tell me it can take months for this sort of thing to sort itself out yet another tell me it shouldn't really last this long, dunno if one is just trying to calm me down maybe.
Well the Cod Liver oil can't do u any harm, it is a sorce of Omega 3 so may help with ur anxiety. Omega 3 is good in general. Plus the muti-bionia will help to boost ur immune and nervous system, so again good. If u don't want to initally try the eco-balance (which is legit, I've taken it) u could go to Holland and Barretts, they have both garlic capsules and Acidophlius (which is a pro biotic) and will help. I would suggest though if u do decide to go to H and B having a good chat with the trained staff who will be able to advise u on the best products in ur price range.
Julie: what do you think about seven seas cod liver oil and seven seas multibionta activate tabs? I have been taking cod liver oil for afew yrs and have taken the multibionta tabs just once (one little tub, probably about 30days worth). You reckon these are good? do you think separate garlic tabs will be any good?
I'm really thinking about eco-balance but I'm still alittle unsure as its an online only thing you know...dunno if its 'proper' or not, you know what I mean right.
I wanna see what the dentist thinks first as he will really be able to get a good look n feel around hehe
I'm really thinking about eco-balance but I'm still alittle unsure as its an online only thing you know...dunno if its 'proper' or not, you know what I mean right.
I wanna see what the dentist thinks first as he will really be able to get a good look n feel around hehe
OK well I went to my GP today and he said he doesn't think there is anything wrong with my tongue, he reckoned the white/pale area is normal and its probably the red sore area near the front of the tongue surface that makes it look white in contrast, this does comply with what afew others have told me but it also contradicts what my other GP told me afew weeks ago (my GP has about 3docs that I see). He said its glossitis and gave me Difflam which is an oral rinse, I haven't actually used an oral rinse yet only Nystatin for fungal probs which he knows about. He also said to go to my dentist to see what he thinks...I am doing so in a weeks time. It does seem like just peoples opinions as one doc told me it can take months for yr system to sort itself out whilst the doc today said he didn't think it should last 3months after taking the antibiotics....I'm waiting for a check at ENT (ear, nose, throat) at the hospital also, they should be able to give a definite view I hope.
I'm curious about this eco-balance but unsure to use it as I'm not sure if thats what I really need, I know you can get garlic tabs/supplements at the chemist and shops, should I maybe try taking them? I do take cod liver oil tabs but you think I should maybe try something I can buy at the chemist before the eco-balance?
I have also been eating the probiotic yoghurts for some time now too, dunno if they are any good.
I'm curious about this eco-balance but unsure to use it as I'm not sure if thats what I really need, I know you can get garlic tabs/supplements at the chemist and shops, should I maybe try taking them? I do take cod liver oil tabs but you think I should maybe try something I can buy at the chemist before the eco-balance?
I have also been eating the probiotic yoghurts for some time now too, dunno if they are any good.
Eco-balance is 4 different capsules taken over the course of the day, one is a strong pre and pro biotic, another is L-Glutamine an amino acid that repairs the intestinal lining that drugs such as strong anti-biotics can interfer with, another is the freexe dried garlic which is what kills the Candida that in the body (not just the intestines) and brings it back into control and lastly Cinnimon capsule that acts as a strong anti-oxidant, to clear the body of Candida toxins. Just to make you aware that oral thrush is Candida and seeing as traditional medicine hasn't worked so this kinda tells me you need to treat ur body as a whole and not just using mouth rinses to treat the localized area, You won't be able to get Eco-balance from your doctor as it is classed as a herbal supplement, but you can get it online... Just to let u know I have used this product before due to an over growth in my intestines (confirmed through a stool sample) and it made a difference to my general anxiety level and stopped the constant female thrush episodes that was occuring and digestion issue I was facing. You may need to take these supplements for a few month or longer but the results will be truely worth it.
google Eco-balance supplement as ur in the UK, it should come up on a herbalist web-site that sells loads of other supplements, it look a bit like the Holland and Barrett web-site, although H and B don't do this.
Plus as other people have told you it sounds extremely uinlikely to be mouth cancer, that is ur health anxiety doing its part there making u think the worst. As I mentioned before stop your sugar intake as well as its feeding the thrush and making it worse.
google Eco-balance supplement as ur in the UK, it should come up on a herbalist web-site that sells loads of other supplements, it look a bit like the Holland and Barrett web-site, although H and B don't do this.
Plus as other people have told you it sounds extremely uinlikely to be mouth cancer, that is ur health anxiety doing its part there making u think the worst. As I mentioned before stop your sugar intake as well as its feeding the thrush and making it worse.
The ulcer I have is indeed between the cheek and gum, right in that meeting point at the very top at the back of the mouth, above the back teeth and its a b***h. Had it about a week now but it started as a red sore patch or area on the gum...odd.
Seems to feel like its getting better then it seems to come back abit....damn it!!!
Anyone know of these garlic tabs?? if they are good for my thrush issue :)
Seems to feel like its getting better then it seems to come back abit....damn it!!!
Anyone know of these garlic tabs?? if they are good for my thrush issue :)
I just wanted to drop a line about the mouth ulcers - I get that as well when I get very stressed - like a rash of LARGE canker sores in strange places (ex. back of mouth between cheek and gum), and sore spots on the gum occasionally. I can't remember having injured my mouth in those areas, so as far as I can tell they are spontaneous. They are VERY painful and cause my whole neck to swell up and I can hardly eat!! They usually last about a week before they heal. This happens to me in very memorable episodes of about 3-4 times a year. Does this sound similar to what you're experiencing?
One thing that I try that seems to help sometimes (but takes time to work) is taking over the counter famotidine (Ex. Pepcid AC) regularly for a few days. I also flush the sores with hydrogen peroxide (which burns like @#$% but disinfects). Also trying not to drink acid-rich things like orange juice or cola which really aggravates it.
I have never gotten conclusive medical advice on them or whether the ulcers could be related to thrush but after reading this, I will ask my doctor, too. I take inhaled corticosteriods for asthma which can contribute to thrush spells. I did ask the dentist about this before, but since it didn't seem poor dental health was a contributor, he referred me back to my regular doctor.
One thing that I try that seems to help sometimes (but takes time to work) is taking over the counter famotidine (Ex. Pepcid AC) regularly for a few days. I also flush the sores with hydrogen peroxide (which burns like @#$% but disinfects). Also trying not to drink acid-rich things like orange juice or cola which really aggravates it.
I have never gotten conclusive medical advice on them or whether the ulcers could be related to thrush but after reading this, I will ask my doctor, too. I take inhaled corticosteriods for asthma which can contribute to thrush spells. I did ask the dentist about this before, but since it didn't seem poor dental health was a contributor, he referred me back to my regular doctor.
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