Anyone tried natural remedies St.John's Wort

[missbiss137]

Just wondering if anyone has had any success with natural remedies. I have been on SSRI and benzo for as long as I can remember.....I am off of everything now for two years and have had relapse. I am considering natural and curious if anyone else has gone that root.

[rod67hd]

try about 2 to 3 grams to start you can't od it will just make ya really sleepy!! Try Bali Baka, and plantation maeng da. From
Mmm Speciosa.com. happyhippoherbals.com is very good too but it's kina hard to order from them sometimes. . Also it is the leaf of a South East Asia tree that,is ground unti,a fine powder and the best way to,take it is not the greatest!! A spoon full in and Chace it down.. I highly recommend fruit juice like sunny d, or what u,like it really masks the taste and texture!!

[rod67hd]

I have a lil but it is expensive for the good strains and to use it to get the relife it takes quite a bit and I'm just now finding the strains that work for me!!  Every one is different with Kratom. Kava I've only used it once for over 3 ,4 days. I like Kratom a better the Kava I found was from a head shop a lot of them are selling Kratom n kava. I don't think it was very potent and the Kava I have found at happyhippo is 70$ vrs 14$ for very good potent clean kratom..  I also heard and seen a supplement called phinabutt?? It is post to be totally for anxiety, I will prob try, next time I order.. Kratom is also a natural pain killer, it is a optoid. It goes to and binds to the same pain reseptors as a opiete..  It's a opiode not opiete.. I spelled that wrong!!  Any way I hope we can keep in contact. Just so you now your words, your compassion and true caring has helped me so much! I can't begin to  thank you!!  Please get online order some Kratom , Kava or both it doze ease it and help your whole mentalness. use the sites I gave ya if not be careful there are some like us that care about others and are really helping .. but there are many like anything else that are scams fake, and just don't care about basic human kindness!!! Thank you again so Much feel free to contact me any time if you have any QUESTIONS.. OR IF I CAN help you n any way.

[rod67hd]

all day yesterday.  I was going to,call today .. and I didnt!! I think if I get a hold of it again I truly flurish when it's not like this. . And self destruct when it is!! I would like to dedicate mall my time to helping those affected like Us .. you should really like Kratom and Kava. . It's pretty expensive though and finding and you need to take a day or to off every 5 at least or your tolleance will become to much.. but for some prett fast relife, I really recommend a Bali strain of Kratom  abi

[rod67hd]

Thank you and the best of luck to you.. I have controlled this horrible thing with,nothing but positive thinking. But when it reaches this level and I can't even go out side I wait till dark and try to go to the store and i,can't get back,quick enough .. this is no way to have to live.. I am suffering horribly 24hrs a day and if i can some how fin the strength to make a simple phone call!! To try n find a  Dr I will never ever I I have any say at all ever come back to this horrible terrible prison In my head!! I'm very scared!!

[missbiss137]

Thank you for all your information and please know you do not suffer alone with this. I am like you right now so I get it, but I am urging you to at least pick up the phone and call your doctor. Someone for the support. You have been through this before and you got through it and you will again. Try some tools like breathing, lavender baths, yoga......grab at anything. I find that there are a lot of you tube videos for guided meditations for anxiety and hypnosis for anxiety and for me they help if I put a headset on I usually fall asleep and feel a little bit better.
You will call when you are absolutely desperate because the desperation will override your fear. I know that is how it works for me.
Please know you are not alone. I am not an overly spiritual person, but I have been praying lots and find that even sometimes help.
What about going on your Kava again until you can see someone?
Sending healing hugs

[rod67hd]

I get so affected by this horrible thing, anxiety. . I totally isolate my self in my home to the point i can't even,open the door or answer the phone.. I truly belive that I need to to be back on benzo's but I can't even call a dr to try to get a appointment, and hope the Dr is sympathetic to how life altering geneal anxiety is..and dosnt label you as a drug seeker..  it's really horrible how can I get help when I can't ask for it???

[missbiss137]

I completely understand your situation as I too have GAD and have had for 30 years. I am currently in what I call a relapse and I too am housebound. Unable to drive, go out the door. I weaned myself off of benzo's and antidepressants and have been off for almost two years so now that this relapse has happened I really want to try the natural route as it was really awful coming off of it all. You have to do what you believe is best for you and if you feel you need to go back on to help you right now then find someone who can support you and take you to your doctor to get help.
It is what I call torturous and debilitating, but we must never give into it and never give up hope.
I too will go back on all of my meds if the natural way does not work, but I am also taking a different approach with everything, diet, yoga, meditation, hypnosis, acupuncture, supplements and trying to heal my body. I believe as probably with you for having it for so long that our whole adrenals are depleted.
I hope your doctor understands and perhaps you might try and seek one out that does.
One day at a time for me. Yesterday horrible day, but today was pretty good so right now I am trying to accept and not fight it. I have it and my acceptance of it somehow does ease it somewhat.
I truly feel for you.

[rod67hd]

I suffer with severe general anxity disorder. I to took benzo's for 20+ years,And tried to deal with it in my own.. St Johns worth never woked for me, Kava works well as dose Krayom try a slow strain.. with Kava and Kratom finding a good supplier and the dose that works for you is the key !!! They really are a miricsl plant and tree!!!

[missbiss137]

I am not trying St.John's Wort for my anxiety so much as I am for the depression which is secondary to my anxiety. I will also seek out anxiety natural herbs such as those you mentioned. I did here Kava was really good so I am leaving in the hands of my naturalpath doctor as to what is best.

[Paxiled]

Interesting you ask that question.  I managed health food stores for many years, but the anxiety problem started before that and so I was on medication.  When the medication I was on started to get to be a problem, I decided to taper off and try to utilize my knowledge I had gained in natural medicine, but unfortunately had a rare reaction to stopping the medication and that was pretty much it for my mental and physical health.  Just unlucky.  So my story isn't really applicable, but I did help many people with their regimens and got to know a lot of natural practitioners and worked with them to treat their patients -- we were basically the pharmacy -- so I got to watch them go through their treatment.  For most of them, it took time, but they did improve, but it wasn't quick.

[missbiss137]

Sorry to hear that it did not work for you. As with everything it is usually several attempts at trying different things to find the right one. I hope you found something to help you.  I also realize that this will take time which as you know when you are in the throws of anxiety you want immediate fixes and relief. I have tried so many pharma drugs and my system is so sensitive that most I had reactions to. Some severe allergic reactions so I figure I will give this a go with more natural supplements. Just curious......was your rare reaction from coming off pharma meds?

[Paxiled]

Natural medicine, when practiced by professionals, doesn't use just one remedy very often.  It uses an integrated approach that would approach problems by targeting the various organs that are involved with it, and it would also include therapy, meditation, and all the usual relaxation suspects.  St. John's Wort is an antidepressant, not for anxiety, so unless your anxiety is caused by depression -- which is often the case --  this herb probably won't help much.  I suggest you begin your education by reading an overview by Hyla Cass, a psychiatrist at UCLA, called Natural Highs.  Then, because you're not well educated in natural medicine, I'd try to find a professional to guide you until you do learn.  This could be a naturopath, a functional physician (a psychiatrist who practices integrated medicine), a regular doc who practices integrated medicine, an herbalist, or the like.  As for the antidepressant that is most like an ssri, that would be 5-HTP, a metabolite of tryptophan that along with B6 manufactures serotonin in the body, and relaxant herbs and/or a pseudo-amino acid called taurine that, along with B6, manufacturers GABA, the neurotransmitter targeted by benzos.  Valerian, mentioned above, acts like a benzo, but is much milder.  The best of these is kava, but don't use it if you have liver problems.  You would also use adaptogens to balance the adrenals, such as ashwagandha and holy basil.  See how complicated it is to do it correctly?  Good luck.  

[missbiss137]

Thank you for your comment. I am working with a natural path doctor as well as my own physician who is in support of tyring the natural way.
I will not be put on just one remedy but several such as the ones you have mentioned.
Sounds like you have much knowledge in this area. Have you yourself tried this root?

[Debcon627]

I have tried St. John's Wort but did not really experience much of an effect from it. My mom however used it regularly for about 1 year. I have found Valerian root to be a little more effective with providing some calmness. Good luck with finding something that works for you!