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Storing Urine and Vomit in Bedroom
I'm not sure if I am posting this in the correct forum but hopefully someone will be able to help me.
My 22 year old sister has been urinating in cups and containers and storing it in her bedroom. This has been happening for years. She also stores vomit in her room and it is only removed when when of us family members cleans the room because the smell has become unbearable.
She used to wet the bed as a child and was bullied at school. She now has a good job (in healthcare!!!) and is outwardly happy but there have been problems in the family.
I have spoken to her about this and she claims she does not know why she does this but doesnt want to go to the doctor. Sometimes she says she does it because she is lazy, or doesnt want to go downstairs to the toilet in case someone shouts at her for making noise but at other times she uses different reasons so I feel like they are excuses and dont know the real reason why she wees in her room. And if its just laziness or fear of getting shouted at, why does she keep the urine in her room for months and months?
I am so sure this is a sign of a deeper problem. She has also cut her arms in the past. Its really hard to speak to her about this because she gets angry and changes the subject.
Please can anyone give me any advice?
My 22 year old sister has been urinating in cups and containers and storing it in her bedroom. This has been happening for years. She also stores vomit in her room and it is only removed when when of us family members cleans the room because the smell has become unbearable.
She used to wet the bed as a child and was bullied at school. She now has a good job (in healthcare!!!) and is outwardly happy but there have been problems in the family.
I have spoken to her about this and she claims she does not know why she does this but doesnt want to go to the doctor. Sometimes she says she does it because she is lazy, or doesnt want to go downstairs to the toilet in case someone shouts at her for making noise but at other times she uses different reasons so I feel like they are excuses and dont know the real reason why she wees in her room. And if its just laziness or fear of getting shouted at, why does she keep the urine in her room for months and months?
I am so sure this is a sign of a deeper problem. She has also cut her arms in the past. Its really hard to speak to her about this because she gets angry and changes the subject.
Please can anyone give me any advice?
I used to do this in my teenage years and occasionally I feel the urge to do it now as a 42yo!! I was a really anxious kid/teenager and was diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder and Agoraphobia in my early 20s. Then in my mid 20s I was also diagnosed with OCD. I have suffered alot with this and there were times in my life that I didnt leave my house for 6 months at a time because I was doing all these rituals around the house that took up all my time. I was also exposed to some sexual assault by our neighbor when I was a child. Ive seen Psychologists all my life and they say that the storing or urine etc is a way of coping with anxiety. You want to forget about what is happening in your life at the time and this is a way to disassociate from reality.
I have a 11 year old daughter that is urinating in towels and hidin them in her room. The bathroom is right next to her room. We only discovered this recently because of the smell. Her dad doesn't see this as a issue. I feel this is abnormal behavior. Oh and she lies about it when she has her own room.
I just came across this thread because it suddenly popped into my head.
I used to store urine in bottles in my bedroom - for the life of me, I couldn't tell you why. The reason your sons and daughters are doing it is probably a mystery to them as well.
There does seem to be a pattern though, I also was very lazy, I lived at home (23 at the time) and didn't have a job (never had one in fact). Looking back I was very depressed - I used to have suicidal thoughts all the time. I used to pray to god and make bargains to the devil to send me back in time. A huge part of the issue with me was shame, and the embarrassment of some of the things I did in the past. Everyday I used to spend time in my room with the door locked, taking drugs (smoking weed) and obsessing about my past. I didn't want a job, I didn't want friends, I just wanted to not feel shame. And for some strange reason, I used to wee in bottles.
I didn't really think anything of it - the bottle was closer than the washroom - and I was just too lazy to go. Like I said, in our heads pissing in a bottle isn't that big of a deal...as strange as that sounds..
But the good news is that I'm much better now. I eventually stopped smoking weed (that was the single best decision I've ever made), I got the confidence to get a ****** job (which then gave me the confidence to get a real job) and the feels of shame eventually faded along with the suicidal thoughts. I moved completely away from my home town to another country and that further helped me over come my issues. They say you can't run away from your problems, but that is 100% wrong when it comes to past regrets and shame....you certainly can run away from them and it feels great!
Over all, what I'm trying to say is that they are very depressed people....but if I grew out of it on my own, so can they. Your son\daughter just needs alone time, their confidence is shattered and it takes a long time for that to heal. As I said before, smoking weed kept me in a loop, I obsessed all day about my past and my problems. Stopping smoking and getting a job was definitely the first steps to recovery. Also, I truly believe that listening to self hypnosis tapes also helped me. For 1 month solid all I did was listen to confidence boosting self hypnosis tapes and had a subliminal message flasher on my computer which flashed positive messages at me all day. I don't know which of these helped the most, but it was of great value. Placebo or not, it helped me take the first steps and after that it got easier and easier.
One side affect of my recovery is that I no longer speak to any of my old friends or family members. I don't completely ignore them as I have the odd phone call with them but months\years can go by and I just don't even think about them. The shame of who I was and the embarrassment of my old self, locked in his bedroom , smoking weeds, jobless and pissing into coke bottles is just too much for me to think about. Losing contract with my family and friends is a small price to pay for the happiness I now feel. My old self is dead, thank god.
To start their recovery, get them out of their current situation - they need to start life new. Just don't be alarmed if the shame of how they are acting now means they don't speak to you in the future.
I used to store urine in bottles in my bedroom - for the life of me, I couldn't tell you why. The reason your sons and daughters are doing it is probably a mystery to them as well.
There does seem to be a pattern though, I also was very lazy, I lived at home (23 at the time) and didn't have a job (never had one in fact). Looking back I was very depressed - I used to have suicidal thoughts all the time. I used to pray to god and make bargains to the devil to send me back in time. A huge part of the issue with me was shame, and the embarrassment of some of the things I did in the past. Everyday I used to spend time in my room with the door locked, taking drugs (smoking weed) and obsessing about my past. I didn't want a job, I didn't want friends, I just wanted to not feel shame. And for some strange reason, I used to wee in bottles.
I didn't really think anything of it - the bottle was closer than the washroom - and I was just too lazy to go. Like I said, in our heads pissing in a bottle isn't that big of a deal...as strange as that sounds..
But the good news is that I'm much better now. I eventually stopped smoking weed (that was the single best decision I've ever made), I got the confidence to get a ****** job (which then gave me the confidence to get a real job) and the feels of shame eventually faded along with the suicidal thoughts. I moved completely away from my home town to another country and that further helped me over come my issues. They say you can't run away from your problems, but that is 100% wrong when it comes to past regrets and shame....you certainly can run away from them and it feels great!
Over all, what I'm trying to say is that they are very depressed people....but if I grew out of it on my own, so can they. Your son\daughter just needs alone time, their confidence is shattered and it takes a long time for that to heal. As I said before, smoking weed kept me in a loop, I obsessed all day about my past and my problems. Stopping smoking and getting a job was definitely the first steps to recovery. Also, I truly believe that listening to self hypnosis tapes also helped me. For 1 month solid all I did was listen to confidence boosting self hypnosis tapes and had a subliminal message flasher on my computer which flashed positive messages at me all day. I don't know which of these helped the most, but it was of great value. Placebo or not, it helped me take the first steps and after that it got easier and easier.
One side affect of my recovery is that I no longer speak to any of my old friends or family members. I don't completely ignore them as I have the odd phone call with them but months\years can go by and I just don't even think about them. The shame of who I was and the embarrassment of my old self, locked in his bedroom , smoking weeds, jobless and pissing into coke bottles is just too much for me to think about. Losing contract with my family and friends is a small price to pay for the happiness I now feel. My old self is dead, thank god.
To start their recovery, get them out of their current situation - they need to start life new. Just don't be alarmed if the shame of how they are acting now means they don't speak to you in the future.
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I'm very happy to hear you're doing much better in your current life. My only concern is shutting your family and old friends out of your life. I understand it was best for you at the time but what about your family. I'm sure they miss you. Regardless of how you may think they perceived you...You're still apart of their family. I hope one day you find the courage to face them. Continue being happy and the best of luck in your new life
you just described my sister, i literally mean you went into my mind and described my actual sister, she's 22, graduated with a first, has a job a guy and a great life going for her, but she wont stop urinating in bottles, she said she's afraid of the bathroom, but that's BS cos she showers all the time and is fine with that, she also spits mouthwash out the window and it goes all over the downstairs window and on the bins. but she's fine with telling me to clean up my mess, even though im the only one who cleans up in the house..the cheek of it..
constantly complains that she hates the house and it's dirty.. it's so vile how hypocritical she is.. i think my mums too scarred to kick her out but if she was my daughter she's be gone a long time ago.. I want to shame her to her boyfriend maybe that'll make her stop even though im the only one who cleans up in the house..the cheek of it.. she's always begging for money from my mum, dad and her friends too. She happily displays the urine bottles on the ironing table and oh she never washes her hands too... and when you tell her she gets upset.. it;s sad that a 22year old woman acts like that. im just waiting for the day my mum finally kicks up the courage to chuck her out, she doesn't pay rent, gas or electric and used to cut herself... she's been arrested twice for violent behaviour once against me.. and is always rude to our mum i should have pressed charges when i had the chance.. i don't think she needs a therapist.. a doctor or any sympathy...i think she needs a wake up call ... and to gtfo NOW
constantly complains that she hates the house and it's dirty.. it's so vile how hypocritical she is.. i think my mums too scarred to kick her out but if she was my daughter she's be gone a long time ago.. I want to shame her to her boyfriend maybe that'll make her stop even though im the only one who cleans up in the house..the cheek of it.. she's always begging for money from my mum, dad and her friends too. She happily displays the urine bottles on the ironing table and oh she never washes her hands too... and when you tell her she gets upset.. it;s sad that a 22year old woman acts like that. im just waiting for the day my mum finally kicks up the courage to chuck her out, she doesn't pay rent, gas or electric and used to cut herself... she's been arrested twice for violent behaviour once against me.. and is always rude to our mum i should have pressed charges when i had the chance.. i don't think she needs a therapist.. a doctor or any sympathy...i think she needs a wake up call ... and to gtfo NOW
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I know this thread is 3 years old. But just because she showers doesn’t mean she’s not afraid of the bathroom. I pee in cups sometimes because I’m afraid of the bathroom. Idk if you noticed but showers are kind of unavoidable.
To anyone reading this, don’t be a **** like this person. It’s a real problem, and should be Taken seriously.
To anyone reading this, don’t be a **** like this person. It’s a real problem, and should be Taken seriously.
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this with your son. Certainly isn't an easy thing to approach with someone, to discuss, you know?
It's difficult to sort out why a person who is seemingly "normal" would do such a thing, such a taboo thing really.
There could be a few explanations, all of them indicate the need for professional help without a doubt. One, drug abusers will often store urine, either to beat drug tests (storing other's urine), or if clean, storing it to sell to others who need "clean" urine.
Another possibility is that this could be a symptom of an anxiety disorder, more specifically, it is seen as a type of hoarding, which is anxiety related. Did your son ever experience a very big loss, or traumatic event?
Really, your son needs help. I know it's got to be very awkward talking to him about it, but you're going to have to get tough with him. Him seeking help isn't going to be optional if he wants to continue living in your home.
I wish you the very best, and hope your son agrees to get himself some help.
It's difficult to sort out why a person who is seemingly "normal" would do such a thing, such a taboo thing really.
There could be a few explanations, all of them indicate the need for professional help without a doubt. One, drug abusers will often store urine, either to beat drug tests (storing other's urine), or if clean, storing it to sell to others who need "clean" urine.
Another possibility is that this could be a symptom of an anxiety disorder, more specifically, it is seen as a type of hoarding, which is anxiety related. Did your son ever experience a very big loss, or traumatic event?
Really, your son needs help. I know it's got to be very awkward talking to him about it, but you're going to have to get tough with him. Him seeking help isn't going to be optional if he wants to continue living in your home.
I wish you the very best, and hope your son agrees to get himself some help.
I am reading this post in search for my 24 year olds son who also urinates and keeps the bottles in his room. This has been going on for some time. We constantly have to make him clean the garbage, not clutter, but garbage out of his room. It will stay clean for maybe a week or so we think,, then the smell coming from his room starts to get really strong again. Today I went in his room because the smell again was getting out of control. I thought it was his laundry but as I pulled clothes from his closet I found 4-5 bottles of urine. Again. We let our son move back in with us a year ago so that he could go back to school and finish his degree. He didn't go back to school and we later found out that 3 mos after moving in with us he lost his job. While out of work he got dressed and left the house and came everyday at the same times as if nothing had happened. I only found out after trying to contact him at his job. The charade actually lasted 3-4 mos. During that time he was apparently looking for jobs and hanging out in his car. My husband moved his car shortly after we found out and under his driver seat was 3-4 bottles of urine. Please help. I don't know what to do. I have suggested that he see a therapist but he refuses. I want him to be out on his own and productive but am afraid he is not capable of taking care of himself. He is working again,, and if you were to meet him all of these things I am telling you would be completely unbelievable.
Hi there, sorry that you're dealing with this with your son. Is this a brand new behavior, or has he been doing this for a while? What kind of psychiatric history does he have, if any? Does he have an official diagnosis? Does he happen to be diagnosed with ADD/ADHD or OCD? Those are a few conditions that could explain this behavior. Has he struggled with anxiety or depression? Has he been receiving professional mental health help for a while? Any medications?
This is definitely not something that indicates that your son is lazy, unclean, or a slob. There is definitely a psychological reason why he's doing this. If he hasn't had a significant mental health history, I would say that it's likely stemming from his failure in school. That makes a HUGE impact, and I'm sure he feels depressed and anxious about it. If this started after that, I would almost guarantee it's related. It could be a way he's controlling anxiety, it could be that he's got a hang up about parting with something that belongs to him. It's hard for us to wrap our brains around how or why that would make sense, but to them it does. It fulfills SOME kind of emotional need. Heck, HE may not even fully understand why he's doing it, and of course, even though he feels the need to do it (ie a compulsion), logically, he knows it's gross and unacceptable, which probably causes him to feel very embarrassed about it. Embarrassment over behavior that's unreasonable will often lead to defensiveness.
It's good that you've gotten him help, but of course, if he's not compliant with his treatment, it's not going to be successful. Have you tried a very calm, caring, compassionate approach? If your discussions with him have been stressful, it's probably only making him withdrawal more and continue the behavior. I would recommend keeping it simple and saying something like, "Son, I'm very worried about you, I love you and want to see you get better. I'm here for you and will help you in any way, but you have to do your part by attending all of your appointments. We will get through this together." Maybe he will open up to you, if you ask him some open ended questions, like "Tell me how you feel about not graduating? Can you share with me the things you think about relating to that, and how it makes you feel?"
Is he only seeing a psychiatrist? Typically, they only handle the medication aspect of treatment. Is he in actual therapy? THAT'S going to be paramount for him, even if he IS taking medications as well. This is something that needs explored and dissected with a therapist. Therapy will also help arm with with appropriate and healthy coping mechanisms.
I hope your son improves and is willing to participate in his treatment plan. If he continues to be non compliant, and continues the behavior, you may have to start getting tough and setting some serious boundaries, which may include telling him he's got so much time to get a job (if he doesn't have one) and find a place of his own. If it gets to that point, just make sure that he knows you're getting tough more because he won't help himself, versus the actual behavior itself.
Best of luck to you and your son, please come back and update us when you can. When you do so, you may want to start your own new thread, as this one is very old, and will be passed over by most people. Take care, hang in there!
This is definitely not something that indicates that your son is lazy, unclean, or a slob. There is definitely a psychological reason why he's doing this. If he hasn't had a significant mental health history, I would say that it's likely stemming from his failure in school. That makes a HUGE impact, and I'm sure he feels depressed and anxious about it. If this started after that, I would almost guarantee it's related. It could be a way he's controlling anxiety, it could be that he's got a hang up about parting with something that belongs to him. It's hard for us to wrap our brains around how or why that would make sense, but to them it does. It fulfills SOME kind of emotional need. Heck, HE may not even fully understand why he's doing it, and of course, even though he feels the need to do it (ie a compulsion), logically, he knows it's gross and unacceptable, which probably causes him to feel very embarrassed about it. Embarrassment over behavior that's unreasonable will often lead to defensiveness.
It's good that you've gotten him help, but of course, if he's not compliant with his treatment, it's not going to be successful. Have you tried a very calm, caring, compassionate approach? If your discussions with him have been stressful, it's probably only making him withdrawal more and continue the behavior. I would recommend keeping it simple and saying something like, "Son, I'm very worried about you, I love you and want to see you get better. I'm here for you and will help you in any way, but you have to do your part by attending all of your appointments. We will get through this together." Maybe he will open up to you, if you ask him some open ended questions, like "Tell me how you feel about not graduating? Can you share with me the things you think about relating to that, and how it makes you feel?"
Is he only seeing a psychiatrist? Typically, they only handle the medication aspect of treatment. Is he in actual therapy? THAT'S going to be paramount for him, even if he IS taking medications as well. This is something that needs explored and dissected with a therapist. Therapy will also help arm with with appropriate and healthy coping mechanisms.
I hope your son improves and is willing to participate in his treatment plan. If he continues to be non compliant, and continues the behavior, you may have to start getting tough and setting some serious boundaries, which may include telling him he's got so much time to get a job (if he doesn't have one) and find a place of his own. If it gets to that point, just make sure that he knows you're getting tough more because he won't help himself, versus the actual behavior itself.
Best of luck to you and your son, please come back and update us when you can. When you do so, you may want to start your own new thread, as this one is very old, and will be passed over by most people. Take care, hang in there!
I have the EXACT SAME with my 17 year old son also. I was looking on here to see what suggestions people are offering. My son is seeing a psychiatrist but misses appointments and "claims" he has stopped the behaviours, until the next time I find the remains! My son did not graduate this year and dropped out of school months before completion. He is good looking, smart, talented and yet he is depressed, anxious and what I would consider lazy and a slob! It is so difficult to deal with, because, we know they have a problem, but the "symptoms" are so difficult to deal with! I often feel it is a personal attack, as I am known to be a bit of a clean freak! So that is one of my questions...are You a clean freak?? Is it a way to control us? Make us DO for them, TAKE CARE OF THEM?? I hope you get this, as your post is years old...although I know, my problem is about a year old myself!
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I think your son isn't ready to deal with the underlining issue. Honestly, I doubt if he's going out his way to drive you crazy. It's a problem that a expert must help him with. Have you ever tried to take things away as a form of punishment for missing doctor appointment's? It may help him stay consistent with his appointments. Teenagers hate to have things taken away from them. Speaking from experience, my mother took phone privileges away amongst other things. Until my siblings and I got the picture that she was serious. She always stood firmly while disciplining us without being physical. I must say it worked.
it nice to know there are others with the same problem. Don't know why my son thinks it's okay to do this? I will take the next step and talk to his Dr about this disturbing habit. He now is pissing on our coffee cups. So gross, I want him to see this is not acceptable behavior.
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Your son is aware that his behavior is wrong. I feel he needs medical help dealing with whatever is causing him to do these things.
Using the restroom is a very personal private task. Perhaps if someone wishes to go unperceived they will develop this behavior as a way to deal with the anxiety of dealing with people and feelings of being exposed. Just like a cat, it might be a primitive response to dealing with an unfavorable situation that develop into a social anxiety.
I suggest talking with the person displaying their behavior and dig for their triggers. If making noise is a problem perhaps adding a water-safe radio to the toilet can make it a more relaxed experience. Anther Idea would be to add some lysol in restroom if the problem is a germ phobia.
Another trigger powerful trigger that can set off this behavior is embarrassment of being seen after drug use ex. red eyes, flushed skin, dilated pupils. For this professional counseling to deal with the underlying problem must be contacted.
I suggest talking with the person displaying their behavior and dig for their triggers. If making noise is a problem perhaps adding a water-safe radio to the toilet can make it a more relaxed experience. Anther Idea would be to add some lysol in restroom if the problem is a germ phobia.
Another trigger powerful trigger that can set off this behavior is embarrassment of being seen after drug use ex. red eyes, flushed skin, dilated pupils. For this professional counseling to deal with the underlying problem must be contacted.
I was spellbound reading your description of your son...You just detailed everything about my 20 yr old daughter...She graduated last year "by participation" and only after running off twice to another state with boy. But I just found two suitcases filled with 43 various bottles...soda,fruit, and of course at least 10 with pee. When I finished dumping / rinsing for recycling....I came and searched...THIS IS NOT RIGHT!... What medicine did I take while pregnant,, what medicine did I give her to cause these strange habits...I hate to take her with your poor hygiene....
Heartbroken
Heartbroken
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Please let me tell you this. It was nothing you did while pregnant or raising your daughter to cause these issues. It sounds to me that your daughter is in need of medical attention. The sooner the better before she goes down the wrong path. Please don't continue to blame yourself nor questions what you may have done to cause her issues. This is beyond any help you may provide her with. She's very lucky to have such a caring parent in her corner. Good Luck in the future.
i have the same problem with my 23 year old son. he does nothing at all. but play games. im tired of it.
my 23 year old son pees in bottles and cups in his room. it does not get cleaned up unless i clean it up. he gets very angry at me when i confront him about it. he yells at me to stop picking on him. i have asked him politely once before when i discovered maybe 25 bottles of urine in bottles under his bed. he does not work. does not help around the house. all he does is play video games. i keep telling him that he needs to get a job to help out he ignores what i say with no reply. im tired of it all. i want him to leave.
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I'm sorry to hear that you're dealing with such an issue. First, in my opinion your son is comfortable. Know one is making him accountable for now being an adult. As an adult, bills need to be paid to enjoy the comforts at home. I would give him 1 more warning about helping out around the house or there will be consequences. If he continues to ignore you, I would shut the power off in his room. He wouldn't be able to stay in his room and play games all day. If you feel that my advice is too extreme, take his game from him. Until your son realize he's an adult and have responsibilities he will continue to live off the life line you provide for him. Best wishes and Good Luck. I hope you find a solution to this problem with your son.
If you're new to the forum, this thread is 5 years old and I'm sure circumstances have changed.
Can someone help me. My son has no goals in life, the Urine storing is going on for years and ears. I have tried everything i really have.
HE is 2 meters tall . I am alone with four kids. How can i get him to stop. I would like if he left my house. He has no income.
HE is 2 meters tall . I am alone with four kids. How can i get him to stop. I would like if he left my house. He has no income.
Baily85 I am hopeful that you have been able to help your sister. DinPlano, My stepson (17years old) stores urine also and continues to do so. The stench becomes overwhelming and he shrugs it off. He too blames, making noise and disturbing people sleeping. He has no problem making all kinds of other noises blasting music, talking very loudly while people are trying to sleep so this is not the real reason he does this. He has been prescribed many medications for ADD/ADHD but refuses to take them, holding them in his mouth and discarding them later. His room is filthy and filled with garbage, old food dirty dishes. All of the stepchildren have filthy garbage filled rooms but that I believe is related to their mother's housekeeping habits. There is the only one who collects and stores his urine. He sets fires, has a violent temper and fails in school. It is a huge concern for us and for him. I would like to be able to seek treatment for him so that he may have some kind of normal life. He has poor hygiene habits and baths every 4-5 days after he is badgered in to it. He is not aware of how offputting he is those around him. . He also would not flush the toilet and has to be reminded. He always flushes fecal matter, just not urine. It causes a great stress on my marriage because my husband refuses to deal with the behavior. He knows there is a problem but just cannot deal with it leaving me to try to handle it and then being the "bad guy"
I'm wondering if DinPlano's son is using the drugs because he cannot understand why he exhibits these behaviors and this is his way to "escape". If so, it is somewhat encouraging because he recognizes that he has a problem so he may participate in treatment. I'm hoping that you find resolution as well. I'm going to consult with a psychiatrist about this and will post what I find out.
Please all, help us find a solution to this confusing and scary problem
I'm wondering if DinPlano's son is using the drugs because he cannot understand why he exhibits these behaviors and this is his way to "escape". If so, it is somewhat encouraging because he recognizes that he has a problem so he may participate in treatment. I'm hoping that you find resolution as well. I'm going to consult with a psychiatrist about this and will post what I find out.
Please all, help us find a solution to this confusing and scary problem
Have you made any progress?
My son stores urine, isolates, and abuses prescription medication also.
He's very smart and has a full scholarship for the Fall, but he's been to the emergency room several times in the past month for drug overdose.
I just cleared a bunch of collected bottles out of his room, including cups and bottles that had stored urine.
He also does not like to flush the toilet.
Let us know what you found out...I see this is an old thread.
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My son stores urine, isolates, and abuses prescription medication also.
He's very smart and has a full scholarship for the Fall, but he's been to the emergency room several times in the past month for drug overdose.
I just cleared a bunch of collected bottles out of his room, including cups and bottles that had stored urine.
He also does not like to flush the toilet.
Let us know what you found out...I see this is an old thread.
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thank you, thats really nice. i printed off the thread back in july to show my sis but i'm not sure if she read it, i'll post her a link and print off a copy and sister you can reply if you like, people are not being nasty at all. otherwise, i'll keep you updated after i see the doctor tomorrow. i hope it goes well.
"she knows i am going to the doctor about her and she is clearly uncomfortable about it but she hasnt tried to stop me, "
Well, that is just awesome. Not only do I applaud you for your support of your sister, but also I think it is great that you have been open and honest with her about it.
Just keep reinforcing to her that you are doing it b/c you love her and care about her and want only the very best for her. She's frightened, I'm sure, but I bet deep down, she knows that your intentions are nothing but the best.
Have you told her about this forum? If so. has she read this thread? If not, do you think she would?
Please tell her that there are a lot of people in this world suffering from some kind of anxiety disorder, there is NO shame whatsoever in seeking help, and getting better and conquering our demons IS very possible. The chance of success improves greatly when we have the support of our loved ones.
Please keep us updated, I'm anxious (funny choice of words, lol) to hear how it goes for you both. My thoughts are with you, your sister, and your family.
Well, that is just awesome. Not only do I applaud you for your support of your sister, but also I think it is great that you have been open and honest with her about it.
Just keep reinforcing to her that you are doing it b/c you love her and care about her and want only the very best for her. She's frightened, I'm sure, but I bet deep down, she knows that your intentions are nothing but the best.
Have you told her about this forum? If so. has she read this thread? If not, do you think she would?
Please tell her that there are a lot of people in this world suffering from some kind of anxiety disorder, there is NO shame whatsoever in seeking help, and getting better and conquering our demons IS very possible. The chance of success improves greatly when we have the support of our loved ones.
Please keep us updated, I'm anxious (funny choice of words, lol) to hear how it goes for you both. My thoughts are with you, your sister, and your family.
i've made an appointment with my GP to speak about my sister tomorrow so i'll let you know how it goes. am very nervous. I havent kept any of this a secret from my sister, she knows i am going to the doctor about her and she is clearly uncomfortable about it but she hasnt tried to stop me, so hopefully if i get her referred to someone she will comply with whatever treatment she is advised to take.
the thing is, i'm not trying to be a martyr but i really am doing this cos i care but i think she kind of thinks i'm trying to make her look bad by bringing this out in the open and highlighting it. the way i see it is that if i'm sick, i go to the doctors and get treatment, i dont see why having mental issues cant be the same; you're sick, you get treated, you get better. there shouldnt be so much stigma attached. ;-(
the thing is, i'm not trying to be a martyr but i really am doing this cos i care but i think she kind of thinks i'm trying to make her look bad by bringing this out in the open and highlighting it. the way i see it is that if i'm sick, i go to the doctors and get treatment, i dont see why having mental issues cant be the same; you're sick, you get treated, you get better. there shouldnt be so much stigma attached. ;-(
HIPPA laws prevent health care providers from sharing information. What you share with a doc will remain confidential. If you aren't comfortable revealing right away about the meds, then just focus on the other issues for now.
It IS vital that you try to seek help for your sister asap though, because it honestly sounds as though she is heading down a path of self-destruction, and like lydia said....it is only a matter of time before she IS caught stealing drugs from work, and that is going to put her into some serious hot water...legally....and professionally. It would just be such a shame to see her lose what she has worked so hard to obtain b/c she is taking meds. I've seen some great nurses lose their licenses forever over stuff like that.
It sounds as though you and your family are probably going to have to stage an "intervention" of sorts to try to get her some help. She's very lucky to have a caring and supporting family who wants to help her.
It IS vital that you try to seek help for your sister asap though, because it honestly sounds as though she is heading down a path of self-destruction, and like lydia said....it is only a matter of time before she IS caught stealing drugs from work, and that is going to put her into some serious hot water...legally....and professionally. It would just be such a shame to see her lose what she has worked so hard to obtain b/c she is taking meds. I've seen some great nurses lose their licenses forever over stuff like that.
It sounds as though you and your family are probably going to have to stage an "intervention" of sorts to try to get her some help. She's very lucky to have a caring and supporting family who wants to help her.
Yes. Everything is confidential. The only time a doctor or psychiatrist is allowed to say anything is when there is a clear and present danger of that person hurting themselves or someone else. That she is obtaining drugs at work will not come out........at least until she is caught and she WILL, eventually, be caught.
As has been stated here, your sister needs some serious professional help and I agree with nursegirl that your best bet is to speak with a psychiatrist regarding the best way to approach this.
I do not mean to be funny, as there is nothing funny about this problem, but until your sister is willing to admit she has problems, it's like the adage of leading a horse to water. Hopefully, this is where the psychiatrist will have some viable options for you.
I wish you the very best.........your sister is very lucky to have your love and support.
Don't forget to take care of YOURSELF during this difficult time.
Please let us know how you're doing, OK?
Peace
Greenlydia
As has been stated here, your sister needs some serious professional help and I agree with nursegirl that your best bet is to speak with a psychiatrist regarding the best way to approach this.
I do not mean to be funny, as there is nothing funny about this problem, but until your sister is willing to admit she has problems, it's like the adage of leading a horse to water. Hopefully, this is where the psychiatrist will have some viable options for you.
I wish you the very best.........your sister is very lucky to have your love and support.
Don't forget to take care of YOURSELF during this difficult time.
Please let us know how you're doing, OK?
Peace
Greenlydia
i agree with what you say completly, but one thing making me hesitant to speak to someone is the fact that she has been obtaining the drugs from her work and i really dont want her to get in trouble at work or lose her job, in case that makes the situation worse. its all confidential with what i tell the gp though.,..isnt it?
It sounds like your sister has more than one issue going on here. Possibly alcohol abuse, possibly abuse of meds, and the odd habit of storing her waste in her room. Also, being that the manner in which she does it (ie, the glasses, mugs, etc) affects the whole family, it is a major issue.
The thing that is most concerning to me is the meds you are finding. If she is finding a way to take these meds from the Pharmacy in which she works, she could find herself in SERIOUS legal trouble, not to mention, lose her job and her career.
Definitely time to talk to someone. My opinion is to find a psychiatrist vs your family doc...they are better equipped to deal with these types of behaviors, and probably better armed with resources to suggest....and a way to come up with a plan to try to help her. The sad thing is...unless she is willing to help herself and admit she has a problem, there isn't a lot you're going to be able to do except perhaps give her ultimatums about finding her own place to live, which of course...she would just likely continue the behavior on her own. She needs help. Start with the psychiatrist.
Best of luck.
The thing that is most concerning to me is the meds you are finding. If she is finding a way to take these meds from the Pharmacy in which she works, she could find herself in SERIOUS legal trouble, not to mention, lose her job and her career.
Definitely time to talk to someone. My opinion is to find a psychiatrist vs your family doc...they are better equipped to deal with these types of behaviors, and probably better armed with resources to suggest....and a way to come up with a plan to try to help her. The sad thing is...unless she is willing to help herself and admit she has a problem, there isn't a lot you're going to be able to do except perhaps give her ultimatums about finding her own place to live, which of course...she would just likely continue the behavior on her own. She needs help. Start with the psychiatrist.
Best of luck.
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