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502999 tn?1211504568

one more question i need all the advice i can get

okay guys look u guys said that that is all classic symptoms of anxiety the feeling that im about to collapse and fait out all the time but u said thats when my heart races but MY HEART DOSE NOT RACE OR BEAT FAST i just get this feeling that im about to drop out like im just gonna drop dead and this happens all day and sometime its so bad i freak out to the point i go to bed and even when im in bed i feel like im just gonna like shut down like die and i really dont know how to explain it but im even doin it right now and its really scary but its weird its like im gonna just drop out and then i get this weak felling i really dont know how to explain it but can this be anxiety and also i have muscle spasms all over my body they dont hurt but they are all over and you can see them move through my clothes but anyways also when i went to the er last week they said my creatinine level was high well i went to the kidney specialists and he tested it again and it was normal and he could not explain it he said it might have been a lab error but anyways my main scare is this feeling that im gonna drop dead could anxiety do this and does anyone else experience this i mean its like im gonna collapse or something im just tryin to explain it to the best of my ability someone pleasee help
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Nope, not offended at all. :) Just offering other possibilities to help. I was that 1 in a million case when my Drs said my tight chest and breathing difficulties was anxiety and it turned out to be more allergy and normal asthma. I get a few injections and I feel fantastic now. I really did feel something that caused discomfort and worried about it. I just want to make sure people rule out all possibilities. There is no sure until all has been tested. Sometimes knowing what it is not can stop anxiety all by it's self unless the person finds something else to worry about which often happens with someone that suffers from anxiety. I think some anxiety is normal when someone doesn't know what is going on.

I can tell you a funny story. When I used to have allergy attacks I had a slight bit of trouble breathing at first and didn't notice I was breathing heavier. So I started to get a light headed feeling. I thought I wasn't getting enough oxygen so I forced my self to breathe faster and deeper. Well actually I was getting too much air to begin with so the problem only got worst. lol. I can laugh about it now, I thought I was going to die back then. So I forced my self to breathe deeper and faster until my heart took off beating zoom zoom. Well we all know what happens if you do this too long right? You pass out. That was terrifying because I thought that was it, end of life. That went on for a while until one day my asthma was bad and I found out what really happens when I can't breathe. Well it was a very different reaction my body had. So now when I have allergies and don't realize I am breathing more, when I start to feel like that I hold my breath for 20-30 seconds and the feeling of light headed goes away. I laugh about it now because it was so simple what was happening and here I turned it in to something huge. It was not anxiety that made me breathe heavier I really thought light headed meant I didn't have enough air so logically I told my self force breaths harder.

I guess there you go to. Another situation where you can really become faint with no change in blood pressure. When my heavy breathing started from allergies I was not even aware I was breathing differently. Oh boy when you breathe and get too much air you get all weird reactions going on. And it was nothing but my own doing. My doctor wanted to put me on anxiety meds for that. I after learning what it was just stopped doing it. That simple. I just needed to know what it was and why it was happening. I said, Oh I'm making it happen. Oops. lol.
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480448 tn?1426948538
I totally hear what you are saying....I actually had thought briefly about orthostatic hypotension (when a person's BP drops after going from sitting to standing, lying to sitting, etc)...but the biggest thing with base, is he has had at least one if not several work-ups.  I just told him on his other (new) thread to go see his doc one more time to get the reassurance he needs that he is ok physically (never hurts to do that).

Your suggestions were fine....sometimes though "checking" things like pulse and BP becomes obsessive...and adds to the anxiety.

Anyway...I hope you weren't offended, you made some great points.  :0)

In a way, I hope it IS physical (for anyone in this boat)....something minor that is fiaxable, rather than the idea of anxiety causes us such grief!!!
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I was not really concerned about high blood pressure and fainting. High blood pressure usually is anxiety. What I was worried about was LOW blood pressure which could indicate a fainting feeling. Normal for a healthy adult over 5 feet 5 inches would be somewhere and can change as long as it stays in the realm of 110/60 up to 140/85. A good strong indication of anxiety if blood pressure drops and goes above this range but not constant is anything over 145/90. Anxiety can raise your blood pressure as high as 165/110. Pressure can also jump 20 points if you eat too much salt that day. It was not at all about the high blood pressure and I rarely hear about people with anxiety having low pressure during an attack (but yes people can drop in pressure drastically during an anxiety attack such as people that get faint at the sight of a needle or too much stress.

What I was looking for was if his bp dropped below 100/55 when he felt faint. Even if it were anxiety this drop in blood pressure would explain what might be causing this feeling. And something for he and his doctor to talk about.

Now if the pressure goes up when he feels like this that too could make him feel better because that is the opposite of feeling like he is passing out from low pressure and should and could be a strong indicator for anxiety. Higher the pressure and the more feeling to pass out is not because of blood pressure but more of stress. If his pressure drops then maybe there could be a connection. If he is feeling this way all the time ruling every thing out might be one less stress he has to deal with and might help him to experience less anxiety.

It sounds like there is some anxiety present, but I always like to rule everything out for the 1 in a million chance it is something simple causing his passing out faint feeling.

That was the other reason I said to try and lay back when you feel like passing out, it was to test low blood pressure. I was never worried about high pressure. High pressure would void this test and spell anxiety. Low pressure was my concern. I know I repeated this a few times, I just wanted to be more clear. :)
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480448 tn?1426948538
sumi beat me to it...I was going to say the same thing.  If you have recently had a thorough work-up and a physician has told you you are fine physically...and you don't have any histroy of high blood pressure...I would HIGHLY caution against starting to check your readings frequently.  That will only fuel the panic/anxiety cycle.  Just like people who are constantly searching the web for confirmation that their symptoms match those of a terminal condition....NOT a good idea.  You are just fanning the flames.

And, that isn't to say that the advice to do so was BAD advice...for SOME people it would be a great idea...if it proved to reassure them...or if it was truly medically indicated.  Panic and anxiety will easily cause a temporary rise in BP, pulse, respirations...and focusing on those things will only convince the anxious person more that they truly have something awful wrong with them.

cj's post is so good...read it a few times.  Just as he and others have said...sooo many of us have been where you are.  And so many of us also have had complete or significant recovery.  Im talking worrying every second about a heart attack...to not giving it a second though for MONTHS.

Your docs have given you the all-clear, right?  If so, believe them.  Very serious medical conditions do not come without very unique symptoms...symptoms that a doctor recognizes right away.  You need to tackle this anxiety with all your heart and all your mind...and get on that road to wellness.
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I was EXACTLY like you when this first happened to me.  I was like Sumi in that I would go from pharmacy to pharmacy checking my bp and then at home and you know it was sky high.  I went the doc's and it was sky high.  But after sitting and relaxing the doctors would take it again and it would be normal.  I had test after test and everything checked out okay.  My anxiety also came from heart health.  I run A LOT and have a very strong heartbeat and can actually see my pulse in my neck with EVERY beat; I can also see it on my forearm and even by my ankle, which used to bother me.  But, that is normal for me.  Also, during my talks with my doctor and therapist, anxiety can actually cause a SLOWER more powerful heartbeat in some, so we all react differnetly to stressful situations.  But lets focus on what you can control.

In my opinion, you are 'textbook' case of starting the anxiety/panic cycle.  I am not a doctor or a therpist, nor do I pretend to be, but that is good news in my experience.  You remind me of what I went through three years ago and I am actually a BETTER person for the experience.  First and foremost, you are young and chances are stacked EXTREMELY in your favor that you do not have anything catastrophicly wrong with your health.  To break this cycle you are going to have to confront and accept the anxiety by talking it over...now this is much easier said than done,  but you will get through it.  I don't pretend to make believe that it is easy; it is not, but you can and will become a better person for this even though you may not see it now.  Keep on using this forum and heed the advice of its members because so many of us have gone through EXACTLY what you are going through.  Also, keep on asking as many questions as you like; that is what this is forum is for.
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Hi base,

" I need all the advice I can get" so here goes,

I sometimes have symptoms similar to yours, really tight spasms, heart does not race and feel like fainting. Like today, I saw my doctor with these symptoms and No , my pressure was not low and not high either. He said it was anxiety.

I really am uncomfortable about the idea of checking your blood pressure when you don't feel well. You see I did that over 2 years ago and since July 07 it really became an obsession . I developed OCD from checking my pressure at home. My neuro advised me to sell my machine on ebay. He mentioned from his experience that most people become anxious when they start checking their pressure at home and that if you have an anxiety disorder, well it spells out trouble.

He isn't the only one, once I called the ambulance because my pressure was high and I had a panic attack. The paramedics mentioned that most anxious patients are not advised to check their pressure. When I arrived at the emergency department , I was practically scolded for checking my pressure. As for the bp machines in pharmacies etc, well, most of them I am told are inaccurate unless you guys in the US have better machines than us in Australia.

So before you start checking your bp when you feel unwell, please check it out with your family doctor whether it is okay in your case. I would not wish you to suffer like I have, I am in therapy now for OCD and recovering.

Again , I hope I have not upset any poster, but just offering another suggestion, or a cautionary piece of advice.

Take care,

Sumi




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Can't edit. Spelling error,  "I think you can learn a lot but looking for a trend." should be "I think you can learn a lot BY looking for a trend."
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Also in the past year have you taken on any new stresses? New job, move, a life changing event? Things produce stress subconsciously and can have anxiety effects as well. Start the diary, I think you can learn a lot but looking for a trend.
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BTY you don't drop dead just because you pass out. Try this as an experiment if you can't take your blood pressure at the time it happens.

Lay flat down on your back or park and tilt you car seat all the way back and see if you feel better. You might actually be passing out if you pressure drops. Laying flat or back like this will let more blood flow to your head and make you feel better if it is your pressure. You need to check your blood pressure when you feel like this.

Try eating something like a small sandwich or granola bar. See if you don't feel better in a few minutes. Some people also feel this way when they get nasua upset stomach.

I am just trying to come up with other possibilities why people can feel faint. Stress will do it too with no other signs.
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Completely random. Just wondering if you ever feel like this between 30 min and 1 hour after a good meal? My girlfriend feels like this when her blood sugar drops. She is not a diabetic but she is hypoglycemic. She never has a problem after a good meal. I mean you can always get your blood sugar level checked when you feel this way. Easy enough.

Another random though.
This also sounds like classic sleep deprivation. When someone can not or does not sleep through the night for a period longer than a week. 3 good nights of rest would completely make that feeling go away. People pass out from not sleeping.

Another random thought.
Anxiety. Anxiety can be anything that is not. Ever see a little kid screaming in pain when the nurse comes out with a shot needle. The funny thing is some kids scream in pain before they are ever touched. It is common for the fast heart beat or butterflies in the tummy but it can be different from person to person.

No one can just say what is going on. What you need to know is:
A. Does this happen all the time?
B. Does it happen when you are alone?
C. Does this happen when you are with people?
D. Does anything trigger it more often?
E. Any special time of day.

The answer may not be simple. It could be anything even something you eat or maybe vitamins you are not getting. Just start ruling things out 1 at a time.

But even anxiety and sleep are connected. The big question is are you sleeping enough straight through the night? That could be affecting you one way or the other.

Still you need to treat everything as serious until you know other wise. Do you know your blood pressure? Anxiety can also increase your pressure with out affecting your pulse. Take you pressure at the local pharmacy or walmart, its free. Then next time you feel like this test your pressure at that time. If you have a drop in pressure that can cause these feelings too.

You're off to a good start. Drs are not with you 24/7 so in some cases you really need to monitor your activities to see what you do and how you feel. Start a diary of day/hours and write down each hour how you feel and what you are doing, include all meals and what you eat too. Note how much you sleep and if you wake up. This will help you and your doctor try and figure this out. Check your blood pressure from time to time too unless you notice no change.
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I have been experiencing the same symptoms as you are right now for the past 7-8 months.  I have had just about every possible anxiety symptom known to man...started with the dizzyness. Then I began very tired and I would get body aches to the point where I thought I was getting the flu, yet I never had the coughing or any other flu symptoms.  I got the depersonalization, I became depressed because I was convinced I was gonna die.  I developed globus, which is where your throat feels tight due to severe panic and anxiety.  I had chest pains and thought I was gonna have a heart attack.  And I got that weird feeling in my chest where it felt almost like this weird tingling excited feeling in my chest and I too thought I would just pass out.  And I had the muscle twinges on top of that and was convinced I would have epilepsy.  I had test after test after test and ruled all these possibilities out.  Finally I went to a hormone specialist becaus I still couldn't accept the 5 other doctors saying it was anxiety.  She wouldn't test me because she was convinced of the same thing the others were:ANXIETY.
She said the first step to overcoming it is to first admit that that is what it is.  And it works. As soon as I feel a symptom coming on I tell myself its just anxiety and if I find something to do and give it time, it will pass.  Sometimes it doesn't work so easily and I now take lorazepam when I need it.
I, myself, prefer not to take the SSRI's.  I prefer something to specifically treat the anxiety because I don't fel that I am depressed and would rather not go through the trial and error...but everyone is different.  Meds may work for you or, at least, get you to the point where you can deal with it. I'm going this weekend for my first meeting with a psychologist to find out his opinion for my specific situation.  Its worth a shot right?
Just do the first step and accept that it is anxiety and when you feel an attack coming on, do something that would normally relax you.  Someone mentioned web games...they help me!! Or video games, reading, taking a walk, calling a friend and talk about other things besides your anxiety.  Once you find something that helps you you'll start to feel better...I promise.
Take care...I know how you feel.
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I just want to add to the above...while a lot of people have differing opinions about meds...do NOT eliminate anything as an option.  Sometimes when anxiety gets pretty severe...temporary medications can help you through that.  While fed's concerns are very valid...I don't want to see you get scared away from anything that may help you.

In MY opinion...meds and therapy worked the best.  I had great success with SSRI (anti-depressant) meds, along with short term benzo (anti-anxiety med) therapy...along with talk therapy.  I agree with fed...that meds without the therapy isn't as optimal...you need to learn coping techniques and work through the source of the anxiety, etc.

Sit down with your doc and discuss all of the treatment modalities available....you need to do that as soon as you can.

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It's absolutely amazing what anxiety disorders can do to a person. They can mimic physical symptoms and intensify mental symptoms. I guarantee you're not dying! It's just your body panicking that's making you feel that way. I'm not sure if you are on any medication, but a benzodiazepine like Klonopin or Lorazepam would help you immensely. They calm your body down, which helps calm your mind down. Your doc might recommend an SSRI medication for you to try also or instead, which sometimes can be a battle to find the right one; some can give you worse symptoms, but when you find the right one, it can really help bring you back to feeling normal again. One of my main symptoms of my anxiety/panic disorder is depersonalization, which is one of the symptoms of severe anxiety disorder - when the anxiety gets to the panic point, my head literally feels like it is on drugs, which is so freaky! I also feel as if my heart is beating fast, but it never actually is. I get hot and cold flashes, muscle twitches, and just feel really messed up and unreal. For 2 months I felt that way constantly almost everyday! I'm finally on meds that are helping me slowly feel back to myself. It is one of the scariest things to experience and go through, but you just have to keep reminding yourself that you WILL get better eventually and you are not alone! I found a lot of relief looking up anxiety and panic disorders online and reading into the disorder. One thing that really helps me sometimes is playing games online - it kind of distracts your mind from it! I wish you luck in your journey to feeling better - you will get there; it may just take a little time. Please let me know if you have any other questions and I will try to help you out the best I can! Think positive!
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Sweetie...it doesn't matter how YOUR symptoms compare with others, or if you have heart racing or not...your feelings are CLASSIC anxiety symptoms...and everyone varies with how they feel.  You are NOT going to just drop over dead.  That is the anxiety cycle...and your mind driving you batty.  Do you understand what we said about the cycle of anxiety?  That the more you "what if" and worry...the worse the physical symptons get....therefore we CONVINCE ourselves that there really IS something tragically wrong...and then of course THAT thought scares us to death.  You HAVE to HAVE to start to break that cycle...or this will continue for you.

I told you that the creatinine level was nothing to be concerned about, yet you could NOT move past that.....you were so focused on it...as you are with these scary sensations.

We've ALLLLL been where you are in one way or another.  Some people get so dizzy they feel as though a seizure is moments away...or they get such severe chest pain, along with all of the other symptoms of a heart attack...that they are petrified that any moment, the "big one" is coming.  Just because YOUR symptoms are a little bit different from what you might have read here....that doesn't mean it's not anxiety.  It's YOUR unique anxiety symptoms.

Remind me again (sorry, I never remember)...are you in some sort of treatment for the anxiety?  If not...you need to call your doc tomorrow and get a refferal IMMEDIATELY.  Immediately because you are suffering so much with this anxiety...so the sooner you get on board with treatment...the sooner you can resolve these issues and not have to feel like this anymore.  It takes TIME, it will not happen overnight....so that's why you need to move on it.

If you ARE in therapy...call your therapist in the am...and tell them what is going on....you need to address this anxiety.  We cannot reassure you anymore than we already have.  You are at the point where nothing will put your mind at ease...because the anxiety is all consuming.  I know it is scary....but look at it this way...while anxiety SUCKS...it won't hurt you.

TRY with all your heart to STOP focusing so much on these sensations.  I know that isn't easy..but you need to give it your best shot.  Occupy your mind with as much as you can...go for a brisk walk, etc etc...and GET THAT PROFESSIONAL HELP...so that you can join the rest of us who can truly report that we are no longer in that scary place anymore....or working on it at least.

Take it easy...hon....you'll get through this.
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hi base09,

People have anxiety over all sorts of things.  It sounds like you are having anxiety about dying.  When you wrote the above paragraph it sounded like you were having anxiety as you were writing it.  You might ask yourself if there is any reason why you would just die.  Sometimes anxiety is born out of fear of something that is very possible.  Having said that, you should probably get checked by a doctor if you can, to rule out dying (if you feel you have a valid reason it might happen, share it with him).  I've had anxiety that caused me to believe I was going to die in the past.  When that happens, the anxiety over something so horrible (death) often exaggerates your breathing and heart rate.  I would not worry about your creatinine level.  accidents can happen, and it looks all is normal now.  You are not alone in your anxiety.  When you experience anxiety in the beginning you often feel like nobody understands because its such a extreme feeling.  You need to take comfort in that you can take control of whats happening.  There are anxiety medications, and that is probably one of the first line of treatment for anxiety for any doctor who understands it but I don't recommend anxiety meds (especially without therapy or counselling) because they become a crutch, and just so long as that medication helps you escape the symptoms, even if its just a little bit, you never get to the root of the problem which is curing the anxiety.  I made very good progress with an Anxiety and Phobia workbook i bought many years ago.  It really helps you understand what you can do it have a hold on situations so that you don't go out of control.  The anxiety meds are very addictive too, and just manipulate the symptoms and not the problem.  Therapy can also be done, and is very effective, though alot more costly than a book.  If you can swing it, might help you a hold of whats happening before it gets out of control and some people respond to other humans much better than they do a book.  Whatever you do, don't panic.  You might want to google for 'how to control anxiety'.

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