quick sharp pain with overwhelming sensation?

[BTOWN]

hello all this is my first post... i am 24 and i guess u could say i am healthy but a little overweight.... i train MMA(mixed martial arts) and i have a serious question.

I was in 11th grade when this happened. i was laying in bed one night and all of a sudden my heart did this trippy skip of a beat. i jumped up out of bed and ran to my mother saying whats wrong with my heart!! ahhhhhh!! she said i was fine..... after a while i didnt notice them any more. then after maybe 2 and a half years i got really bad panic attacks and got scaared and went to the doctors. the doctor diagnosed me with mitral valve prolapse. i was a little releived after that. then i got over anxiety as a whole for a long time.. but in between that period of time i did construction and i noticed it alot then...THE QUICK SHARP PAIN that feels like a skipped beat and i get this overwhelming sensation on top of it. those have been happening since and its been years now.

Now they happen when my heart rate gets up high from running or jump roping or when i train for that matter....it used to be just out of no where when i would be sitting there... basically i am petrified that it means something is wrong and my body is warning me of a heart attack or something. im young! i dont want to die! so does any one have any idea what this could be?

i went to my doctors yesterday and i explained this to him finally(since i barely just got health insurance for the first time in almost 4 or 5 years)and he says he is sending me to a cardiologist. and by the way it also happens when i go in the ocean or a pool or when its hot. just like my run in the hills with my team last saturday. it was tons of incline and when i was walking it off IT HAPPENED... TWICE! bu dum bu dum bu dum bu dum BAM buh dum buh dum buh dum buh dum buh dum buh dum BAM1 ya it happened twice. and also i get anxiety on top of exercise whenever i do decide to work out.... can that harm my heart? i know this was long and i seem nuts but any one.. if you have the knowledge or are for certain u have an idea of what this is please talk to me

btown

[BTOWN]

i see...... so if thats the case how long do i have to live? hahaha

[BTOWN]

p.s. what is an endocrine disorder?

[BTOWN]

ok ill write all that down..

but like i said im not worried because i bet it is my anxiety

[BTOWN]

i have used my wifes dads home blood pressure monitor and my readings were constantly over 140 over 80 or 90. sometimes even 150. but ...... i never rested for 15 minutes when i did it...... i rested for like 3 or 4 minutes each time................

[BTOWN]

and basically if my anxiety is causing high blood pressure then yes... i am a firm beleiver that anxiety does cause heart issues among others cuz u just wear ur body to shreds

[BTOWN]

alright....

so i just got back from the cardiologist.... he talked with me for a few minutes and asked me typical questions i guess. like whats ur family history this and that...from what i know my moms side is fine.. dunno know about my dads...so i told him my history (like i wrote in the very first post about this) and he says what i have is basically an extra beat..... he says the quick sharp pain isnt heart related and he couldnt really explain it well.... he said something about it being nerve ending related in my chest area? i have no clue.. he was asian (im not racist so please dont think so) so it was a little hard to understand him. but any who he did an ekg and said its normal and doesnt find anything unusual and that he says there is nothing to worry about with my heart...............

except



he thinks i have high blood pressure. he took my first reading and it was 160 over 90.... second time at the end...... 160 over 90........ he wants me to go back to my regualr doctor and get it checked out..... now i argued that i beleive it might be my anxiety causing that because i always get a little worked up going to the doctors.. when i went to my doctor for the first time in foreverrrrrr (1 month ago) his nurse took my blood pressure and it was high , dont remember the exact reading.... but then towards the end the doctor took my BP and it was normal like 120 somethin over 80. he said was good i guess.......

soooooooo is this bad? or good? i dunno.... not to worried about it.

the heart issue is over. so i am good now. thanks for all the help to ryan, debaser,spade,be still my beating heart 13,zenn11,raine9,wmac,rasticle,tanns, heartfluttersaway,and chadry. i wont ever forget how welcomed i was the first second i posted on here. u all took what spare time you had just to make sure i was ok. im sure ill post in other areas on some kind of issue ... but i can almost garuantee that my worrying is definatly at an all time low(meaning u wont see much worry from me any more).... i feel good. god bless you all. and ill always be here incase if any one needs me(for the little knowledge i have) and ill keep you all in my prayers. take care

brandon aka btown

[BTOWN]

oh ok... well i have been on xanax since september of 06 and i went off of it out of no where... and when i got my new doctor i told him that previously a month before i wanted to come see him i just went off xanax like that! he freaked out and put me back on it. so i just got my second refill today but i wanna go off of it cuz i feel ready to. i took one by the half this morning..... any advice on going off of it?

[debaser23]

I can answer that (anxiety causing insanity): No.  It just doesn't happen.  It makes you feel like you are, but you won't.  Believe me.

Ryan can give a better answer about Klonopin V. Xanax, but Klonopin has a very low side effect profile.  I'm on it and take it twice every single day.  I have no side effects.  In the beginning you may experience some, but they'll go away or diminish to the point they're not a problem.

Talk to your doctor about it when it comes time.

[BTOWN]

thank you alot debaser i appreciate it tons.

and ryan... i am on xanax. but thats it. it relaxes me and takes away my tension..... thats about it.. then i feel like a zombie after.....

does klonopin have side effects?  and man this makes me freaked out.. i dont wanna end up ina looney ben....can anxiety cause you to go mentaly insane?

[debaser23]

I hate this forum because you make what you feel is a good post, and it doesn't appear.  What gives?

Anyway, what I was saying was that I WAS like you and I know all too well how hard it is.  If a clean bill of health from your cardiologist doesn't alleviate your anxiety, I'd immediately seek other treatment.  Believe me when I say this: you do NOT want to go on like this any longer than you have to.  That's a weird thing to say...I know you're thinking that, haha.  But I eventually got so petrified by anxiety and panic attacks that I feared medication and therapy.  I wasted a LOT of time that way.

But what I was getting at is, if it turns out that you need a benzo or whatever to slow down and gain some perspective, by all means take advantage of it.  If it turns out that reassurance by your cardiologist is enough, even better!

But whichever is the case, it can and will get better if you're willing to do what it takes.

[BTOWN]

thank you... but thats even hard to do sometimes when u have a brain like me that doesnt stop worrying about every thing every one and all along with there grandma hahaha

[debaser23]

Well, it's been my experience that you can't "fight it".  Anxiety will just fight right back and win by attrition.  You have to learn to accept it, first of all.  Then you can deal with it.

[BTOWN]

and i do think that the cardio will help me get over it(as long as no new symptoms appear later on)

and yes my worry 90% of the time is fixated on my chest breathing and heart


ok..... when sitting in a car(no fear from accidents or anything)

i get really anxious shakey uneasy and sweaty...

when on my way to an event......a concert, training, or a place i have never been... i get a racey heart and shakey and sweaty and uneasy.

sitting period makes me concentrate on my heart or how my body feels period.. i get that disconnected feeling really bad where i feel like i am in a dream or i look down at my leg and it seems as if its not mine or im not really here.. i hate that one by the way..

and again back to the heart.... i cant help focusing on it cuz it slams in my chest when i work out or if i am driving(which i do all day cuz my job is mobile) cuz its the main thing in my life for the past 1.5 years has been worry about my heart. its just my biggest fear of dying. and it sucks and annoying.. especially to even you guys.

but in conclusion... my heart.. its the only thing i focus on weather working out sitting.. having sex.... playing sports with friends... playing an instrument... etc etc etc.. name any situation and time or place or anything and i can guaranttee i am worrying about my heart.... i wanna live a long life and stop this....

[BTOWN]

ya i know its my anxiety though that continously causes me to repeat this stuff all over again!

i hate buggin u guys!!! u have already helped me but i still worry about it!!

thats why i need help with the mental part!! ryan i want to stop paying sooo much damn attention to my heart!!!! help mne!!!!!! ahhhhhh i wanna fight it man ahhhhhhhh hahahahah help!!!

[BTOWN]

well thanks buddy... i am mostly trying to work on my stinkin anxiety and worrying... my problem is i do what ryan has told me not to do.....TO NOT BE ATTENTIVE TO YOUR HEART!!!


i need help with not paying attention to my heart...ESPECAILLY when i work out or train with my team cuz then i freak out.

any advice on training my mind to not do that?

[tanns]

NOOOOO!!!  I'm just saying don't google things because you can easily start to "self diagnose" and feed any anxiety over what you are feeling.  I can't tell you how many heart related issues I was convinced I had all becaue I tried to google my symptoms.  It's just not a smart idea.

I don't know a whole heck of alot about PVC's.  But I've been reading about them on this forum for almost two years and there are A LOT of people who have them and have a fair amount of anxiety related with it.  Everyone has their own perception about how they feel.  I've seen them described a number of ways and in a structurally normal heart, they are all benign.

Good luck on Friday and I'm sorry if I made it sound like they were dangerous.  They are only, for most, anxiety provoking.

[BTOWN]

yes i do... friday at 2:45 pacific time.

sooooooo.....

ur saying that they can be dangerous?

[BTOWN]

yes i do... friday at 2:45 pacific time.

sooooooo.....

ur saying that they can be dangerous?

[tanns]

If you read posts on other heart forums (and I DO NOT recommend you do this) you will find that people can have different sensations from their PVC's.  I have seen them referred to as painful, scary, a fluttering feeling, a rollercoaster drop feeling and many, many others.  I won't say "don't worry", I know that never helps.  But don't google anything and stay busy.  I know it is scary.  But you'll be okay.

Do you have an appointment with the cardio yet?

[BTOWN]

so today i was soooo tired..... i got an iced vanilla brewed coffee... drank it slow...... it gave me tons of pvc's... and they werent any of the painful ones i have mentioned..... my heart would race... then felt like my heart paused for 2 seconds then beat again.... those are still pvc's correct? and if those are pvc's then i imagine that the sharp pain ones i get arent pvc's and are something else? ahhhhhhhhhhh sorry guys(you too ryan)but it has me freaked and has all day ... any advice?

[heartfluttersflyawayplz]

i will be praying for you in your time of health, you are so kind to answer are questions and than be so concered that your test will up-set others on this board make them think they have it , your a true kind soul.  i know you have been there for me and so many of others who look for you and ask you questions not the dr. to be so young and be so smart and wise but most so kind at heart. God Bless you ryan praying for you to have better days .Barbara

[chadry]

I have been reading this for a few days to see what is being said because I myself have had these symptoms for many years. I think the first time I started getting this checked out was about 20 years ago. I never believed the docs when everything came back good. But I have learned to live with them now for alot of years. I still get them and sometimes they still scare me but I remind myself that I am still here after how many all these years. I do have a problem with excersising and getting my heart rate up because of this. It does scare me to get my heart rate up. Even though I can not say that they are brought on by me getting my heart rate up I just think I will get them if I get my rate up. This is a phobia for me I believe. One that I have to work on. These sometime painful and uncomfortable feelings come out of nowhere. Sitting, laying down and just doing whatever. I have many docs tell me these are normal things that happen and many people experience it but when you are scared about them nothing anyone says helps. I know because I have been there hundreds of times maybe more. I can not even remember how many hospital trips I have had over the years.i used to have regular workouts doing things like tae bo that I really enjoyed. I do not have a regular fitness program at this time because of other injuries that I have that get aggravated by bending walking and strenuous things.4 herniated discs in neck and one in low back, so my fitness is not what is was. I think that I am going back to my treadmill again slowly now I that I see this thread. I am not alone in my feelings about heart rate and skipped beats. I guess my whole point here after my babbling is that I started to see a doc in my 20's about this and I am now in my late 40's. I am still here. I never thought years ago I would make  it another day and that I would drop dead from these things. I didn't and I need to start my own journey again with my heart beats.
I truly hope everything is ok with you. It is a horrible and very scary feeling when these things hit you. Take care and hopefully in a short time you will be back to doing what you enjoy. If they say everything is good please don't let this ruin the quality of your life. Go slow at first and work your way back.
Take care and try(I said try) to relax.
Chadry

[Raine9]

Well, I only want you to answer it if you feel comfortable.  I can deal.

[spade22]

Your very comment suggests the outcome was not positive.........