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signs of aspergers
are some of these things signs of Aspergers?
sensitivty to loud sounds?
can not stand tags in shirts?
can not stand the feelings of blue jeans on legs?
can not brush hair, can not stand feeling on scalp?
loves to hear the bass notes in music/on radio?
we can not change the plans we have made, example, go to dinner eariler than stated?
goes to her room and stays for hours by herself, will watch tv so she is not alone, but not social with family until called out?
certain legnths of shirt sleeves make her crazy?
I am sure there are more I can not think right now, It is late.
My daughter was tested at school, they say she does not have this because she is doing 7th grade work in the 4th grade. They say that she would not exhibit these things only at home, but she only wears certain cloths, will not comb her hair for school, does not want to go out for recess.....
Thanks for your help,
Morganave
sensitivty to loud sounds?
can not stand tags in shirts?
can not stand the feelings of blue jeans on legs?
can not brush hair, can not stand feeling on scalp?
loves to hear the bass notes in music/on radio?
we can not change the plans we have made, example, go to dinner eariler than stated?
goes to her room and stays for hours by herself, will watch tv so she is not alone, but not social with family until called out?
certain legnths of shirt sleeves make her crazy?
I am sure there are more I can not think right now, It is late.
My daughter was tested at school, they say she does not have this because she is doing 7th grade work in the 4th grade. They say that she would not exhibit these things only at home, but she only wears certain cloths, will not comb her hair for school, does not want to go out for recess.....
Thanks for your help,
Morganave
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Asperger's Disorder is diagnosed based on impairments in social interaction and the presence of repetitive behavior patterns and restricted interests or activities. An inflexible adherence to routines or rituals falls into the second category as do intense or highly focused interests. Also, Asperger's is diagnosed when there are no significant delays in language or cognitive development. It is not uncommon for children with Asperger's to perform well academically, although they struggle with social interaction. I recommend that you seek an evaluation by a professional with exppertise in diagnosing autism spectrum disorders.
Yes, your daugther sounds very much like she is on the spectrum. For your school to say she cannot be because she's doing 7th grade work in 4th grade shows how truly ignorant they are of Asperger's. Aspies quite often are well above their age peers when it comes to knowledge, especially in subjects of their interest. Please keep pressing for a diagnosis, outside of school if necessary, to get your daugther's needs met.
Hello,
I believe it is best to seek professional help for your child outside of school. My son was labeled "developmentally delayed" until he was diagnosed with moderate autism at the age of 4. His special ed preschool teacher said there was no way he was autistic, but we continued to get him the help he needed and eventually they agreed. He is 10 now and does wonderful. He just started to read and although he is behind in some areas he is an extremely happy little boy and makes us (his parents) extremely happy as well. He does have alot os sensory issues. He gags on most foods, cannot tolerate long sleeves, used to hold his hands over his ears from loud sounds(not so much anymore), has problems with tactile and body awareness. He receives ot pt and speech bith in and out of school. I never trust the school with anything. Sad to say it has been a CONSTANT battle with my sons school every single year and i have to feep fighting every step of the way. It gets old and frustrating but I have gotten pretty good at it. hope all goes well for you. Your in our prayers.
I believe it is best to seek professional help for your child outside of school. My son was labeled "developmentally delayed" until he was diagnosed with moderate autism at the age of 4. His special ed preschool teacher said there was no way he was autistic, but we continued to get him the help he needed and eventually they agreed. He is 10 now and does wonderful. He just started to read and although he is behind in some areas he is an extremely happy little boy and makes us (his parents) extremely happy as well. He does have alot os sensory issues. He gags on most foods, cannot tolerate long sleeves, used to hold his hands over his ears from loud sounds(not so much anymore), has problems with tactile and body awareness. He receives ot pt and speech bith in and out of school. I never trust the school with anything. Sad to say it has been a CONSTANT battle with my sons school every single year and i have to feep fighting every step of the way. It gets old and frustrating but I have gotten pretty good at it. hope all goes well for you. Your in our prayers.
dont give up my son is said to have sensory inter gration but even ithink it is more so iam doing more on my own because some times the school dose not see all even in our wich holds only 65 kids whe seen ateam of doc. from denver chidrens hospital now that he is older iam getting him a new work up on my own because i dont think sensory things fit but some of the thing that you are saying fit with all my studies like i have to buy some of the same color of color clothing and loud sounds and being left alone i also notice with my son he dose not like dark rooms and scares realy easy he is 11
I am a parent, not a professional. But my understanding is that you can more than one disorder or diagnosis. There are some similar characteristics between Aspergers and ADHD, so you need professionals experienced in those two disorders to advice you as to whether it is one or both, and which one is the main one.
He also sounds like he has Sensory Integration Disorder. I would recommend a book by Olga Bogdashina called Sensory and Perceptual Differences in Autism and Aspergers. That book gave me an insight into what my sons was experiencing.
He also sounds like he has Sensory Integration Disorder. I would recommend a book by Olga Bogdashina called Sensory and Perceptual Differences in Autism and Aspergers. That book gave me an insight into what my sons was experiencing.
Can a child have both Aspergers syndrome and severe adhd?? My son was diagnosed with severe adhd then when i took him to a university cause i knew there was more than just adhd they diagnosed him with Aspergers. I was told by other parents that it was not possible for a child to have both. He has all the signs he is
*obsessed with play money
*strong smells makes him gag
*sorts things by color, shape
*loud noises he covers his ears
*he has no friends
*he doesnt want to go outside to play during recess
to the first post my son is in the 2nd grade doing 4th maybe 5th grade work. They are even testing him for the gifted program.
*obsessed with play money
*strong smells makes him gag
*sorts things by color, shape
*loud noises he covers his ears
*he has no friends
*he doesnt want to go outside to play during recess
to the first post my son is in the 2nd grade doing 4th maybe 5th grade work. They are even testing him for the gifted program.
That's okay.
Oh, that is embarrassing, sorry about that sally44.
No, I was trying to follow your humour.
Many so called professionals seem incapable of recognising autistic spectrum disorders and aspergers. It is beyond me. They also seem to have very literal interpretations of diagnostic criteria and concrete thinking - which they don't recognise in themselves, but those characteristics are always pointed out in the autistic population.
Many so called professionals seem incapable of recognising autistic spectrum disorders and aspergers. It is beyond me. They also seem to have very literal interpretations of diagnostic criteria and concrete thinking - which they don't recognise in themselves, but those characteristics are always pointed out in the autistic population.
"I am sure that they would have had a Post Grad course on "how to recognise an autistic spectrum disorder" as many professionals appear to have attended"!
Not quite sure what you saying, but if you believe a person who completes a degree can recognise an autism spectrum disorder you are delusional. I interact and speak to many people on the spectrum and their parents. The problem appears to be there a re very few trained diagnosticiains in the autisn spectrum disorder field. Most medical poratitioners are looking for autistic disorder with arm flapping, rocking, unable to maintain eye contact and head banging onto walls.
I have been assessed for Irlene's coloured lenses, not the issue. Visual-Spatial-Orientation integration problems, with inability to form visual images: I have no imagination or perception of abstract concepts.
I have read much of what Donna Williams has to say and Temple Grandin. Definitely agree with there notion of not excepting bad behaviour. Temple's coments and perceptions are interesting except you will not find subject on autism sex/sexuality. She would appear to be asexual and that is only half of us on the spectrum.
I agree with your comments in relation to medical professional having autistic like personalities, especially the specialist-with exception to the psychiatrists.lol How many complaints do we hear of specialist medical Drs bedside manners. I do not have a problem with their attitude, the less chit chat the better.
Not quite sure what you saying, but if you believe a person who completes a degree can recognise an autism spectrum disorder you are delusional. I interact and speak to many people on the spectrum and their parents. The problem appears to be there a re very few trained diagnosticiains in the autisn spectrum disorder field. Most medical poratitioners are looking for autistic disorder with arm flapping, rocking, unable to maintain eye contact and head banging onto walls.
I have been assessed for Irlene's coloured lenses, not the issue. Visual-Spatial-Orientation integration problems, with inability to form visual images: I have no imagination or perception of abstract concepts.
I have read much of what Donna Williams has to say and Temple Grandin. Definitely agree with there notion of not excepting bad behaviour. Temple's coments and perceptions are interesting except you will not find subject on autism sex/sexuality. She would appear to be asexual and that is only half of us on the spectrum.
I agree with your comments in relation to medical professional having autistic like personalities, especially the specialist-with exception to the psychiatrists.lol How many complaints do we hear of specialist medical Drs bedside manners. I do not have a problem with their attitude, the less chit chat the better.
If Springfield Elementary also had a University, I am sure that they would have had a Post Grad course on "how to recognise an autistic spectrum disorder" as many professionals appear to have attended!
And regarding concrete and literal thinking, it is often the case that the NT medical/education professionals seems to be affected with this autistic trait.
Regarding your visual perceptual differences. Have you ever tried Irlen lenses. I have heard of a number of people with sensory issues being helped with these. Donna Williams used to see fragments of objects etc, but when using the lenses she said that she saw objects and people 'whole' for the first time.
And regarding concrete and literal thinking, it is often the case that the NT medical/education professionals seems to be affected with this autistic trait.
Regarding your visual perceptual differences. Have you ever tried Irlen lenses. I have heard of a number of people with sensory issues being helped with these. Donna Williams used to see fragments of objects etc, but when using the lenses she said that she saw objects and people 'whole' for the first time.
Who are the idiots that tested your daughter at school. The janitor or perhaps the gardner? It is not Springfield elementary by any chance, where bart and Lisa attend. Sorry for the sarcasim but I'm getting very tired with pseudo diagnosticians of Aspergers. Some moronic medical doctor informed a mother her daughter could not have autism becuae she could maintain eye contact and he specialised in development disorders. So many ignorant and uninformed people out there.
Your daughter appears to have SID, sensory intergration disorder which is common in people with autism. I have to wear V-neck shirts and short sleeves, no jewellery-watches etc on my body and would get cane most days at school for wearing thongs-hated shoes. I have spoken to absolute intellectual genius' Aspergers people, unfortunately they have the social IQ of idiots. I'm not so lucky, I have learinng difficulties in visual spacial intergration, a wasted above average IQ and social idiot.
Have your daughter assessed by a clinician who specialises in Aspergers, a neuropsych assessment should put things into perspective.
I have an aversion to manufactures tags, denim jeans as a child and certain loud noises.
Mongrave's post is informative, Clinical psychologists who specialise in Aspergers is the way to go. Run a mile from psychiatrists, they only wish to medicate excessively, that is all they know. Some autism activist are anti-CBT and mainstream therapy for autism(We can't change attitude). I'm not as it has assisted me in managing life and understanding appropriate behaviour.
Your daughter appears to have SID, sensory intergration disorder which is common in people with autism. I have to wear V-neck shirts and short sleeves, no jewellery-watches etc on my body and would get cane most days at school for wearing thongs-hated shoes. I have spoken to absolute intellectual genius' Aspergers people, unfortunately they have the social IQ of idiots. I'm not so lucky, I have learinng difficulties in visual spacial intergration, a wasted above average IQ and social idiot.
Have your daughter assessed by a clinician who specialises in Aspergers, a neuropsych assessment should put things into perspective.
I have an aversion to manufactures tags, denim jeans as a child and certain loud noises.
Mongrave's post is informative, Clinical psychologists who specialise in Aspergers is the way to go. Run a mile from psychiatrists, they only wish to medicate excessively, that is all they know. Some autism activist are anti-CBT and mainstream therapy for autism(We can't change attitude). I'm not as it has assisted me in managing life and understanding appropriate behaviour.
If you google Temple Grandin (you probably have heard of her), and read her experiences of sensory perceptual difficulties, you will see that she says that she believes all those on the spectrum have sensory perceptual differences ranging from mild to severe.
These difficulties are ususally called Sensory Integration Disorder and it is an OT who would assess and put together a programme. However OTs understanding of what is going on is somewhat limited. There are autistic and aspergers people writing about it themselves eg. www. donnawilliams.net. And there are professionals working with them to discuss these difficulties ie. Olga Bogdashina.
These types of sensory issues are not new. They were raised back in the 1960's by Delacatto who did a number of studies into how sensory information was perceived.
It is possible to have Sensory Integration Disorder without autism or aspergers. But I haven't met anyone on the spectrum who didn't have some sensory issues.
I have some sensory processing difficulties, but I am not autistic. My difficulties are around tactile (clothes, tags, fabrics etc - and feeling touch as painful), over sensitive smell, auditory processing problems (CAPD), poor balance. But it fluctuates. So I have good days and bad days.
Why would school think she cannot have aspergers because she is ahead of her peers academically? There is a whole range of intelligence levels for those on the spectrum as in the typical population. Even Einstein is suspected of having autistic traits.
You can also google the DSM IV diagnostic criteria for autism and aspergers and see yourself what the characteristics are.
I presume she does have a diagnosis? It is always better to get a diagnosis through Health rather than through just school, and you need a multi disciplinary team to assess her that has experience of diagnosing autistic spectrum disorders, including aspergers. This should involve a Speech and Language Therapist (to assess language and social interaction and play skills), and an Educational/Clinical Psychologist as well as a Paediatrician.
The only real difference between ASD and Aspergers appears to be the requirement that the child acquited typical language development in Aspergers. However even if they do have typical language (expressive), they still need to be assessed because their receptive language may be at a totally different level. They may have problems with processing language or CAPD, or auditory or working memory problems. They sometimes have Semantic Pragmatic Speech Disorder (literal and concrete thinking).
These difficulties are ususally called Sensory Integration Disorder and it is an OT who would assess and put together a programme. However OTs understanding of what is going on is somewhat limited. There are autistic and aspergers people writing about it themselves eg. www. donnawilliams.net. And there are professionals working with them to discuss these difficulties ie. Olga Bogdashina.
These types of sensory issues are not new. They were raised back in the 1960's by Delacatto who did a number of studies into how sensory information was perceived.
It is possible to have Sensory Integration Disorder without autism or aspergers. But I haven't met anyone on the spectrum who didn't have some sensory issues.
I have some sensory processing difficulties, but I am not autistic. My difficulties are around tactile (clothes, tags, fabrics etc - and feeling touch as painful), over sensitive smell, auditory processing problems (CAPD), poor balance. But it fluctuates. So I have good days and bad days.
Why would school think she cannot have aspergers because she is ahead of her peers academically? There is a whole range of intelligence levels for those on the spectrum as in the typical population. Even Einstein is suspected of having autistic traits.
You can also google the DSM IV diagnostic criteria for autism and aspergers and see yourself what the characteristics are.
I presume she does have a diagnosis? It is always better to get a diagnosis through Health rather than through just school, and you need a multi disciplinary team to assess her that has experience of diagnosing autistic spectrum disorders, including aspergers. This should involve a Speech and Language Therapist (to assess language and social interaction and play skills), and an Educational/Clinical Psychologist as well as a Paediatrician.
The only real difference between ASD and Aspergers appears to be the requirement that the child acquited typical language development in Aspergers. However even if they do have typical language (expressive), they still need to be assessed because their receptive language may be at a totally different level. They may have problems with processing language or CAPD, or auditory or working memory problems. They sometimes have Semantic Pragmatic Speech Disorder (literal and concrete thinking).
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