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Could this be Autism
My daughter is 14 months and has some odd behaviors. She makes good eye contact and smiles while making eye conact if she knows and likes you, but gets very upset and hard to sooth if she does not know you or does not like you. She cries alot and gets is this odd position (lays on her stomach, twist her body, and puts right foot over left foot while looking at the floor). We are unsure why she does this and thought it was stomach cramps, but now it seems like she does this when she is upset. She is delayed in talking and will not point at what she wants. She yells, cries, and gets in her position until you figure out what she wants. We are having a hard time with her and can't get an appointment with a Developemental Doctor until January. Any thoughts???
I've heard some children don't talk properly until they're 3, I think it depends on your child. I think it's difficult to say there's something wrong with your child when they're so young and I wouldn't like mine to be diagnosed with anything or have to go through the whole mri's and blood tests, psychological tests and everything unless there was something I could see was really really wrong. I just don't think it's fair. Different children develop differently don't they, I mean it sounds like going into this position is kind of an attention thing. If you put the milk on the bar and then she screamed and went and got it that's ok isn't it. What else, I don't think many babies sit still very often or like sitting still, if there's no physical problem you can find then there must be some other reason. Maybe give her more attention when she goes into that position for comfort, is she conscious, Try picking her up and then asking what's wrong. You'll know. Does it matter really at this age if she doesn't get it. I think the other's are right the only odd thing is the way she sits in a position and stares, I don't know what that is Have you tried a blanket comforter instead, or giving her chocolates or cookies as a comfort or reward. Lots of babies walk on their toes I've read when they start walking What about formula milk, and vitamins forget the cows milk. That's what I give my daughter, and multi vitamins, red and white meat, beans and cereals with multi vitamins. Don't worry too much Maybe it's too much for her at the doctors all the time.
When in doubt with concerns, check with your pediatrician first. You can always get in to a regular pediatrician faster than you can see a specialist. States have 0 to 3 programs that your pediatrician can refer you to. You can also contact the state program directly without a referral, but it does help to have the pediatrician refer you to it. It's a national program, that the states run. My girl was referred at 24 months to our state's program called First Steps in Indiana. I'm kicking myself in the butt, regretting I didn't address some concerns I had at her 18 month checkup. She might have started therapy earlier. The earlier you start, the faster therapy works.
Are you in a different country or do you have an accent? The reason I ask is because of some of your style of writing...just wondering.
Well mabye start her on a gluten/dairy free diet and see if you notice a change. You can start stuff like this on your own..plenty of info. out there on the topic. I took the biomedical/homeopathic route w my son and saw big gains from that. When you get into the doctor tell them you want her tested for yeast and heavy metals.
How ya doing? I wish I could give you some feed back, but I'm clueless on normal and not normal at the moment! I hope you can get some answers for your friend.
Understand, there are other signs (the position which she is always in and is not a tantrum because she does it in her sleep and while playing by herself, etc. Never cries while doing it.) She walks on her toes and is a very hard child. I've been beating my drum saying she is in pain, that is why she acts odd and doctor's keep ruling pain out (foot, stomach with x-rays, GI test, U/S)? It's not a seizure because she will look around and look at you. So what the He!!!... is wrong??? This is all before the 1 year delays. That was just more to worry about. The "A" word started coming up when she was around 10 months, not saying she is, but saying we will watch her. I took her to food specialic to get a really good diet without whole milk because whole milk is in everything and I just know that was her problem... I was given a little info and asked if I ever heard of Asperger's. I said no and she said you may want to have her tested. I replied with "Cool" and went home to Giggle it, sure it was a stomach problem. Well it brought me back to Autism!! I know she is there but her wheels are turning a little slower. This is going to drive me crazy and again, I can't get answers until January!!! How crazy. I kind of feel like I think I have cancer, but I have to wait 3 months to find out to get help. I want to stress I did not start saying Autism. I ruled it out because of her eye contact with me and our family (other than my husband father, which I understand :) ). Now she does dislike others, but she may have a reason because of all the test and being poked on so much. Remember, she is also a girl!!!
your daughter may not have autism..Im not saying that....but it does clearly sound like she is having a problem with communication..just work on it...we taught my son sign language and that helped him alot..we also used PECS picture exchange...that also helped alot
my son fell under PDDnos not otherwise specified was originally told at risk for autism...when he turned 3 after much work we were told he no longer fit that category..didnt meet all the criteria...i suspect as he gets older though there may be ADHD or ADD..but he is still young only 5
my son fell under PDDnos not otherwise specified was originally told at risk for autism...when he turned 3 after much work we were told he no longer fit that category..didnt meet all the criteria...i suspect as he gets older though there may be ADHD or ADD..but he is still young only 5
Your 100% right, I would not be asking about autism if I did not think my daughter did not show some signs. Can I ask what was different about your son? What signs did you see and how many signs were there?
My son, which is now 3, was vibrant at 1. So smart, so happy. He got it... He know some signs, said cat, waved, did not cry as much (stilled cried because they all do). He did more than most - all boy and was always on the go. I did not have to work hard for him to get it, he just did. I think some of Brynn's problem is because she is a second child (lack of time) and me not showing her as much as I should. I never waved bye-bye to her, she was always with me, so I did not think to do it. I also just got what she needed, so she never had to point - do I sound like I'm making excuses for her because I'm really good at that. Once I realized she was not doing these things, I started trying to teach her and she will not catch on. Brynn is very different from my son. Not as happy, Fussy most of the time, but she will smile at me and she has a beautiful smile. Why won't she get it? I pray I did something to delay her by doing it for her.
My son, which is now 3, was vibrant at 1. So smart, so happy. He got it... He know some signs, said cat, waved, did not cry as much (stilled cried because they all do). He did more than most - all boy and was always on the go. I did not have to work hard for him to get it, he just did. I think some of Brynn's problem is because she is a second child (lack of time) and me not showing her as much as I should. I never waved bye-bye to her, she was always with me, so I did not think to do it. I also just got what she needed, so she never had to point - do I sound like I'm making excuses for her because I'm really good at that. Once I realized she was not doing these things, I started trying to teach her and she will not catch on. Brynn is very different from my son. Not as happy, Fussy most of the time, but she will smile at me and she has a beautiful smile. Why won't she get it? I pray I did something to delay her by doing it for her.
her daughter was functioning at 4 months because of sleeping and eating issues,and her language and social skills were that of a 13 month old.
“Most mommies and daddies tell me “I thought there was a problem at 14 or 15 months...and they told me let’s wait and see because sometimes some kids grow out of it.’ Well, that’s not a good answer. We’ve got to make the distinction between less important problems, where we can wait and see from core problems, which involve a lack of reciprocity and a lack of getting to know your world. For these core problems, we have to act on it yesterday. We can’t wait nine months, we can’t wait two months.” (Stanley I. Greenspan, M.D., Child Psychiatrist)
Im not trying to be mean...ther was alot of denial from my in laws and my husband...if there is nothing wrong (I hope so) w/ your daughter then great...but there is a reason here here on this forum asking about her...it wont help you any if people sugar coat and tell you what you want to hear.
I dont think strong will has anything to do with nor is it a reason for a delay.
I understand what your saying...however if there is something wrong and is addressed..the panick sleepless nights and worry will come...I have lived it...my DH and I almost felt like our child had died or at least we were grieving a loss...a loss of not being able to enjoy our child...it was all work, work, work....but it all paid off he is doing awesome!!!
Like I said denial and wait and see is bad...Holly Robinson was on Larry King discussing her sons autism...she put it this way...there is a window of ime that you have to pull them out
I understand what your saying...however if there is something wrong and is addressed..the panick sleepless nights and worry will come...I have lived it...my DH and I almost felt like our child had died or at least we were grieving a loss...a loss of not being able to enjoy our child...it was all work, work, work....but it all paid off he is doing awesome!!!
Like I said denial and wait and see is bad...Holly Robinson was on Larry King discussing her sons autism...she put it this way...there is a window of ime that you have to pull them out
Let me add this before I take heat for your "to the point" honesty. Awareness is awesome, but panic is bad, so as long as we parents remember that what people tell us is not always our situation, but just some facts than it's good info.
I do like your honesty. We "ALL" need to be aware of what is happening to our children and not always believe it is normal if we think there is a problem. What are your thoughts on strong willed children. Do you think this could be a reason for delays and/or is there really a infant/toddler that could be strong willed and not just have behavior problems which leads us back to autism?
she went to one developmental pedi he told her ocd and anxiety because jen has a history of anxiety in her family so does the dad.she believes it i dont.but thats just me.
Heres a good website
http://www.firstsigns.org/healthydev/milestones.htm
Stanley Greenspan is the king of Autism intervention...he endorses this website..you will also find this website on the AutismSpeaks.org website
there is also the CDC website for childhood developmental milestones
http://www.firstsigns.org/healthydev/milestones.htm
Stanley Greenspan is the king of Autism intervention...he endorses this website..you will also find this website on the AutismSpeaks.org website
there is also the CDC website for childhood developmental milestones
Are you saying she is 23 months old and functioning at a 4 month old level?
Yes by 15 months DEFINITLEY should be pointing, clapping, showing, reaching, waving etc.
Is she not getting early intervention?
Yes by 15 months DEFINITLEY should be pointing, clapping, showing, reaching, waving etc.
Is she not getting early intervention?
i was wondering if anyone thinks a 15 month should be able to gesture?and not just whine and pull me around.she is my friends daughter and she is now 23 months and is functioning at 4 months,she thinks she has ocd and anxiety.maybe im just being parinoid i just care about her.
All the info I have received has been really helpful. Your right, I need not to "jump the gun" and take it one day at a time. I think everyone is so much more aware of autism and doctors want to catch this early, so it's understandable to have me start the process and I need to do this open minded and not over react. Autism awareness was all over the news today, which is awesome!!! We all need to know and need to react if we see signs. The news said "ALL" children should be checked before turning two and I now agree.
To reply to your questions:
1.) Brynn's first due date was at the end of August, but was moved up to mid August. The birth mother was in a lot of pain due to gallstones and back pain, so the baby was taken earlier. She was a C-Section baby and I remember the doctor having a hard time getting her out because she was so high up. I was in the room with the birthmother and what felt like an hour was probable only 5 minutes, but they were having a hard time reaching Brynn. Other than that, Brynn was born on August 4th and everything seemed fine.
2.) We did take Brynn home from the hospital. Oh, Brynn was also jundis and stayed 6 days in the hospital, (under lights 24 hours a day, starting on day 3). I will say that Brynn has always been a "put me in my bed and leave me alone" baby! Never liked to be rocked. We always labeled her an independant and strong willed child, because as hard as we tried to make her a spoiled, bed baby, is as hard as she wanted to be put in her own bed to go to sleep. She sleep all night starting at 2 months. Brynn was a good baby, just a little stiff - hard to cuddle.
3.) Brynn seems to play with toys just fine. She always goes back to the same toys, but nothing seems odd to me when she is playing. She plays with a toy oven alot. Opening the door and putting small toys in and out of the oven. She does play with my sons cars and she rolls them on the the floor.
4.) I try to read books to her, but she can't stay still. Not interested in sitting still. I still try, but this is one of our problems with her. She is not a lap child and things need to be her way or she is screaming. She is hard to break. I guess a good example of this is when she gets shots, she screaming for the next hour after the shot is given. Not cries, screams! When she is mad, it's on :)
We do work with the sign for "more" with Brynn. I Love her to death, but she just loves to yell for her way! She does do something that looks like she is trying to sign (one hand flat and will tap the center of her hand with the other hand instead of tapping her finger tips together) about 30% of the time we ask. We reward her and are happy even if it is not perfect. I guess the other thing I can add is that she was late in sitting up. She did not sit up until she was almost 8 months, not because she was not strong, but because she did not want to be in that position (I guess). I would put her in the cool seats to help babies sit up and Brynn would buck until I took her back out. When I sat her up, she would cry and wiggle back down again. "STRONG WILLED"!
I have been working harder to give her more one on one time and more TLC. I am also going next week to have her hearing checked, then on to speech therapy as I wait for the other appointment in January.
Thank you again for all of your help.
Sincerely,
Nancy
To reply to your questions:
1.) Brynn's first due date was at the end of August, but was moved up to mid August. The birth mother was in a lot of pain due to gallstones and back pain, so the baby was taken earlier. She was a C-Section baby and I remember the doctor having a hard time getting her out because she was so high up. I was in the room with the birthmother and what felt like an hour was probable only 5 minutes, but they were having a hard time reaching Brynn. Other than that, Brynn was born on August 4th and everything seemed fine.
2.) We did take Brynn home from the hospital. Oh, Brynn was also jundis and stayed 6 days in the hospital, (under lights 24 hours a day, starting on day 3). I will say that Brynn has always been a "put me in my bed and leave me alone" baby! Never liked to be rocked. We always labeled her an independant and strong willed child, because as hard as we tried to make her a spoiled, bed baby, is as hard as she wanted to be put in her own bed to go to sleep. She sleep all night starting at 2 months. Brynn was a good baby, just a little stiff - hard to cuddle.
3.) Brynn seems to play with toys just fine. She always goes back to the same toys, but nothing seems odd to me when she is playing. She plays with a toy oven alot. Opening the door and putting small toys in and out of the oven. She does play with my sons cars and she rolls them on the the floor.
4.) I try to read books to her, but she can't stay still. Not interested in sitting still. I still try, but this is one of our problems with her. She is not a lap child and things need to be her way or she is screaming. She is hard to break. I guess a good example of this is when she gets shots, she screaming for the next hour after the shot is given. Not cries, screams! When she is mad, it's on :)
We do work with the sign for "more" with Brynn. I Love her to death, but she just loves to yell for her way! She does do something that looks like she is trying to sign (one hand flat and will tap the center of her hand with the other hand instead of tapping her finger tips together) about 30% of the time we ask. We reward her and are happy even if it is not perfect. I guess the other thing I can add is that she was late in sitting up. She did not sit up until she was almost 8 months, not because she was not strong, but because she did not want to be in that position (I guess). I would put her in the cool seats to help babies sit up and Brynn would buck until I took her back out. When I sat her up, she would cry and wiggle back down again. "STRONG WILLED"!
I have been working harder to give her more one on one time and more TLC. I am also going next week to have her hearing checked, then on to speech therapy as I wait for the other appointment in January.
Thank you again for all of your help.
Sincerely,
Nancy
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