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Is PDD a part of the Spectrum or has it been removed?
Hello!
I was just wondering if PDD is still a part of the Spectrum or if it has been removed?
My son, 8 years old, is currently going through evaluations regarding sensory issues, anxiety issues and he has been diagnosed with ADHD. The doctor is still uncertain whether he has PDD and is continuing to evaluate him.
If you have any information regarding PDD, I would appreciate it!
Thank You!
I was just wondering if PDD is still a part of the Spectrum or if it has been removed?
My son, 8 years old, is currently going through evaluations regarding sensory issues, anxiety issues and he has been diagnosed with ADHD. The doctor is still uncertain whether he has PDD and is continuing to evaluate him.
If you have any information regarding PDD, I would appreciate it!
Thank You!
PDD = Pervasive Development Delay. It is usually a 'working diagnosis' when a more specific one is not available. Sometimes you will hear it referred to as Pervasive Development Delay Not otherwise Specified.
It is on the spectrum
It is on the spectrum
The DSM-V has now converted Aspergers, PDD-NOS, and Autistic Disorder, into one diagnosis called ASD(Autism Spectrum Disorder) with three levels (3-severe 2-moderate 1-mild).
there are 1001 flavors of ASD. PDD and Aspie seem to make parents feel better but pretty much any clinically significant speech delay will put a child on the spectrum now. I dont personally find it very helpful but opinions vary. I rather just deal with the issues and not stigmatize.
10% of boys have a speech delay of significance. I think eventually we will get to something like 5% autism because its been thus redefined. Autism diagnosis in the case of ASD not classical autism is a matter of OPINION. One doctor can say autism another can say speech delay. You have to decide what you want. I think there is a significant group of kids with sensory issues and speech and neurological delay but they usually catch up, some in 2 years some in 4, it really can take time. I know social people with poor eye contact and I think its nuts to pathologize kids as is being done and freaking parents out. But again, Im in a minority. There are autism support groups up the wazoo and a whole industry of professionals who are overpaid to remedy this. Then the kids need support when theyre older and dont have it. My advice always is to enjoy your child. If youre concerned about speech you can get free speech services from the state or privately through insurance. You can do ALOT yourself. The first step is always communicating needs. You can do this with body language or words/sounds. Place something he WANTS out of reach. Dont dangle it. Say the word or the movement you want and repeat this. It works phenomenally. Love is what make kids great not interventions. L
10% of boys have a speech delay of significance. I think eventually we will get to something like 5% autism because its been thus redefined. Autism diagnosis in the case of ASD not classical autism is a matter of OPINION. One doctor can say autism another can say speech delay. You have to decide what you want. I think there is a significant group of kids with sensory issues and speech and neurological delay but they usually catch up, some in 2 years some in 4, it really can take time. I know social people with poor eye contact and I think its nuts to pathologize kids as is being done and freaking parents out. But again, Im in a minority. There are autism support groups up the wazoo and a whole industry of professionals who are overpaid to remedy this. Then the kids need support when theyre older and dont have it. My advice always is to enjoy your child. If youre concerned about speech you can get free speech services from the state or privately through insurance. You can do ALOT yourself. The first step is always communicating needs. You can do this with body language or words/sounds. Place something he WANTS out of reach. Dont dangle it. Say the word or the movement you want and repeat this. It works phenomenally. Love is what make kids great not interventions. L
Yes, sensory integration disorder is a separate diagnosis from PDD, aspergers and autism. People can have one without the other or they can have both. But sensory symptoms are considered common with autism but not an actual symptom to diagnose.
I wish you much success with your son as I'm sure it is hard. My own son was diagnosed at 4 with sensory integration disorder. We worked on his sensory symptoms directly and keep him regulated through the 'heavy work' that our occupational therapist taught us to do which basically makes his sensory symptoms all but disappear. Really fantastic to have an accurate diagnosis and to work on it as it sounds like you are doing. See an occupational therapist for the sensory issues and understand that if you target those as separate from the autism, you may get further than expecting them to be part of the autism. Does that make sense? That sensory is something that a child can actually overcome through learning techniques to regulate the nervous system.
I've read that those with autism that have overlapping sensory integration disorder, which a very high percentage do, find the sensory symptoms to be very challenging and uncomfortable for them. If you separate that out and work on that through sensory integration techniques with an OT that specializes in sensory, it could become much better for the child rather than expecting that it is part of autism and must just be dealt with.
My son has sensory integration disorder without autism symptoms and is doing really fantastic now at 10.
Anyway, they can really do so much with our kids nowadays. It sounds like you are working really hard with your son and even educating yourself to be a care provider for him and other kids and that is awesome. Let us know how it goes.
BTW, does your son have dyspraxia as well as apraxia?
I wish you much success with your son as I'm sure it is hard. My own son was diagnosed at 4 with sensory integration disorder. We worked on his sensory symptoms directly and keep him regulated through the 'heavy work' that our occupational therapist taught us to do which basically makes his sensory symptoms all but disappear. Really fantastic to have an accurate diagnosis and to work on it as it sounds like you are doing. See an occupational therapist for the sensory issues and understand that if you target those as separate from the autism, you may get further than expecting them to be part of the autism. Does that make sense? That sensory is something that a child can actually overcome through learning techniques to regulate the nervous system.
I've read that those with autism that have overlapping sensory integration disorder, which a very high percentage do, find the sensory symptoms to be very challenging and uncomfortable for them. If you separate that out and work on that through sensory integration techniques with an OT that specializes in sensory, it could become much better for the child rather than expecting that it is part of autism and must just be dealt with.
My son has sensory integration disorder without autism symptoms and is doing really fantastic now at 10.
Anyway, they can really do so much with our kids nowadays. It sounds like you are working really hard with your son and even educating yourself to be a care provider for him and other kids and that is awesome. Let us know how it goes.
BTW, does your son have dyspraxia as well as apraxia?
Hi, Im the new friend here, wanted to chime in, about ur PDD question , if it is still a diagnosable on the spectrum or not, and I saw a few comments below that had a lot of good stuff , and everything, but I think I can add to that, maybe clarify a lil bit ( I am a full time mom & full time college student , training to be a Autism Specialist for our Community, to Help other families navigate the system, to get help , find resources, ect ect
Ok , first .. PDD - stands for Pervasive Developmental Disorder. It is a form a form of Autism yes, more like Asperger's , yes, is it "sensory intragration disorder", not entirely, they do share common ground, but to say PDD is a sensory intrag. disorder, that's not entirely accurate , sorry, I a great i am posting below here , all on PDD, hope it helps, its from one of my Autism classes i am enrolled in right now.
Please let me know , if this helped, if u want / nee anything further, i mean no harm , just trying to help out, btw i have 4yr old w/ regressive nonverbal autism , whom is violently aggressive lately, n i am educating myself more to help him while we wait for funding , with out any help any, support or a break . and i go to school online at night, and have done nursing for 16 yrs, & hospital & homeheath . , lost my dad to Head n Kneck Cancer a year ago as well.
http://www.firstsigns.org/screening/DSM4.htm
Ok , first .. PDD - stands for Pervasive Developmental Disorder. It is a form a form of Autism yes, more like Asperger's , yes, is it "sensory intragration disorder", not entirely, they do share common ground, but to say PDD is a sensory intrag. disorder, that's not entirely accurate , sorry, I a great i am posting below here , all on PDD, hope it helps, its from one of my Autism classes i am enrolled in right now.
Please let me know , if this helped, if u want / nee anything further, i mean no harm , just trying to help out, btw i have 4yr old w/ regressive nonverbal autism , whom is violently aggressive lately, n i am educating myself more to help him while we wait for funding , with out any help any, support or a break . and i go to school online at night, and have done nursing for 16 yrs, & hospital & homeheath . , lost my dad to Head n Kneck Cancer a year ago as well.
http://www.firstsigns.org/screening/DSM4.htm
Here is a great article from a well known autism web site that talks about how sensory integration disorder and autism are two separate disorders but that those with autism often have the overlapping condition of sensory. But that there are many who suffer sensory integration disorder that do not have autism.
It is easy to understand and makes clear that sensory integration issues that a child or adult can't cope with is a condition on its own and does not mean they are autistic. By addressing the issues, they often resolve whereas with autism, that often does not resolve.
Here's the article:
http://www.autismkey.com/sensory-processing-disorder-and-autism/
It is easy to understand and makes clear that sensory integration issues that a child or adult can't cope with is a condition on its own and does not mean they are autistic. By addressing the issues, they often resolve whereas with autism, that often does not resolve.
Here's the article:
http://www.autismkey.com/sensory-processing-disorder-and-autism/
PPD-NOS is on the spectrum, not sure what PPD alone means.
PPD-NOS is quite similar to Asperger with 2 main differences (as it was recently briefly explained to me by the pedo-psy who diagnosed my son with Asperger): PPD-NOS children have more sensory needs, they seek them like crazy; and their speech pattern is different at first, a bit like they don't fully process what's told to them and they tend to repeat the same stuff. Take that with a grain of salt, I was just listening to him and thinking: not my son, he understands language too well and is too "a propos" in his speech.
PPD-NOS is about children who have classic autistic traits but don't have all the autistic traits of a child with classical autism.
Hope it helps.
PPD-NOS is quite similar to Asperger with 2 main differences (as it was recently briefly explained to me by the pedo-psy who diagnosed my son with Asperger): PPD-NOS children have more sensory needs, they seek them like crazy; and their speech pattern is different at first, a bit like they don't fully process what's told to them and they tend to repeat the same stuff. Take that with a grain of salt, I was just listening to him and thinking: not my son, he understands language too well and is too "a propos" in his speech.
PPD-NOS is about children who have classic autistic traits but don't have all the autistic traits of a child with classical autism.
Hope it helps.
Oh, you are so welcome! I am here any time you need help. I've been where you are at and am happy to help support you on this journey! peace
Thank you again! :)
I will definitely be looking at the information you and Sandman provided!!!
I will definitely be looking at the information you and Sandman provided!!!
PDD is still on the spectrum. I encourage you to look at this website
http://www.sensory-processing-disorder.com/
It is very helpful for understanding that sensory integration disorder is separate from autism. Autistic individuals can have overlapping sensory integration disorder but they are two separate diagnosis. My son only has sensory integration disorder and we've had tremendous success through occupational therapy helping him overcome his challenges. So, when you go through your evaluation, keep that in mind. My son is now 10 and doing fantastic and I've been where you are.
Educate yourself as it is your biggest ally in helping your child. Too many go with old theories and out of date information when there is valuable information out there to really nail down what is going on. Wishing you all the luck and if you need help with anything, please contact me. Been there. good luck
http://www.sensory-processing-disorder.com/
It is very helpful for understanding that sensory integration disorder is separate from autism. Autistic individuals can have overlapping sensory integration disorder but they are two separate diagnosis. My son only has sensory integration disorder and we've had tremendous success through occupational therapy helping him overcome his challenges. So, when you go through your evaluation, keep that in mind. My son is now 10 and doing fantastic and I've been where you are.
Educate yourself as it is your biggest ally in helping your child. Too many go with old theories and out of date information when there is valuable information out there to really nail down what is going on. Wishing you all the luck and if you need help with anything, please contact me. Been there. good luck
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