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joint pain and several other problems
hi guys,
Il try to give you a list of symptoms and history without too big a story.
6-7 months ago I started having pain in my lower right pelvis.. I went to the doctor and he told me it was probably muscle strain and not to worry.. a few days later the pain got much worse so I went to hospital and was admitted as they were worried about appendix.. i was disharged and given the muscle strain explanation.. 2-3 weeks later the pain spread around to the other side of my pelvis and i returned to the doctor who checked my prostate.. he said it was inflamed so gave me a long round of antibiotics incase it was an infection..
after i finished the antibiotics the pain was not any better and I had developed new symptoms
extreme fatigue
joint pain
muscle pain
bone pain (all these pains are all over my body but the worste pain is in my hips)
small joints in hands and fingers look all red and discoloured
irregular heartbeat flutters
shoirtness of breath
weakness
pain under left ribcage and sometimes right ribcage.. hurts more if i cough or sneeze.. like a pressure kind of pain... doctor didnt find evidence of enlarged spleen
I went back to the doctor who said he thinks I have an autoimmune process going on
my CBC was normal except white bloods slightly elevated. test for ANA was negative, RA factor was negative, inflamotary markers were normal...
after this I had a one day bout of diahrea... it was mainly blood and mucous..
as there was a lot of blood i went in to the hospital who discharged me after 4 hours saying i need to see my doctor... stool sample was taken but found to be normal
2 weeks ago I started getting a rash on my penis which I believe to be thrush... it is really bad now and looks horrible.
so to recap
pain in large and small joints.. the pain is mild but fairly constant with intermittent bad pain.. the pain in my hips is the most severe when I get a "twang" of pain
...
Fatigue... not so bad when I wake up but get really tired in the afternoon... not sleepy tired.. more like weak tired... feel actually weak at the knees
....
shortness of breath and chest flutters and tenderness... this is less often but the two things seem to come at once.
....
red joints on hands... really doesnt look nice
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pain under left ribcage in spleen area
...
pain in and around pelvis bladder area, worse when coughing or such like
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pain that seems to radiate from bones... femur.. humerous.. hips... (can be severe at times)
...
really bad thrush on my penis, or what i think is thrush (have never had this before)
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skin seems to break really easily and bleed more than usuall when it does... have had bleeding under my skin from carrying a heavy bag..this is not normal for me.. (my platelett count was fine just a few weeks ago)
...
red dotted rash on my legs an calves..also on my chest and belly (doctor said this was non speciphic)
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have had a slight rash on my face around my eyes but this comes and goes and doesnt hurt much... just a dry irritated feeling
..
my vision in one eye seems to have become very slightly blurry (I dont use corrective eyewear)
...
my glucose levels have been checked and doctor says they are normal.
..
one of my brothers has type 1 diabetes and another one has addisons disease.
...
I am 28 years only.. my bmi is normal... I am a smoker.. i dont drink... I have been otherwise healthy up until 6 months ago.
hopefully somebody could give me an idea of what this could be
Im currently on an oil rig for the next 7 days so will go back to the docs when i get home
Im hoping to get some info so I can ask the doctor to test for specific things that this could be as the diagnostics are taking a long time and im having no relief.
thanks a lot!!
Il try to give you a list of symptoms and history without too big a story.
6-7 months ago I started having pain in my lower right pelvis.. I went to the doctor and he told me it was probably muscle strain and not to worry.. a few days later the pain got much worse so I went to hospital and was admitted as they were worried about appendix.. i was disharged and given the muscle strain explanation.. 2-3 weeks later the pain spread around to the other side of my pelvis and i returned to the doctor who checked my prostate.. he said it was inflamed so gave me a long round of antibiotics incase it was an infection..
after i finished the antibiotics the pain was not any better and I had developed new symptoms
extreme fatigue
joint pain
muscle pain
bone pain (all these pains are all over my body but the worste pain is in my hips)
small joints in hands and fingers look all red and discoloured
irregular heartbeat flutters
shoirtness of breath
weakness
pain under left ribcage and sometimes right ribcage.. hurts more if i cough or sneeze.. like a pressure kind of pain... doctor didnt find evidence of enlarged spleen
I went back to the doctor who said he thinks I have an autoimmune process going on
my CBC was normal except white bloods slightly elevated. test for ANA was negative, RA factor was negative, inflamotary markers were normal...
after this I had a one day bout of diahrea... it was mainly blood and mucous..
as there was a lot of blood i went in to the hospital who discharged me after 4 hours saying i need to see my doctor... stool sample was taken but found to be normal
2 weeks ago I started getting a rash on my penis which I believe to be thrush... it is really bad now and looks horrible.
so to recap
pain in large and small joints.. the pain is mild but fairly constant with intermittent bad pain.. the pain in my hips is the most severe when I get a "twang" of pain
...
Fatigue... not so bad when I wake up but get really tired in the afternoon... not sleepy tired.. more like weak tired... feel actually weak at the knees
....
shortness of breath and chest flutters and tenderness... this is less often but the two things seem to come at once.
....
red joints on hands... really doesnt look nice
...
pain under left ribcage in spleen area
...
pain in and around pelvis bladder area, worse when coughing or such like
...
pain that seems to radiate from bones... femur.. humerous.. hips... (can be severe at times)
...
really bad thrush on my penis, or what i think is thrush (have never had this before)
...
skin seems to break really easily and bleed more than usuall when it does... have had bleeding under my skin from carrying a heavy bag..this is not normal for me.. (my platelett count was fine just a few weeks ago)
...
red dotted rash on my legs an calves..also on my chest and belly (doctor said this was non speciphic)
...
have had a slight rash on my face around my eyes but this comes and goes and doesnt hurt much... just a dry irritated feeling
..
my vision in one eye seems to have become very slightly blurry (I dont use corrective eyewear)
...
my glucose levels have been checked and doctor says they are normal.
..
one of my brothers has type 1 diabetes and another one has addisons disease.
...
I am 28 years only.. my bmi is normal... I am a smoker.. i dont drink... I have been otherwise healthy up until 6 months ago.
hopefully somebody could give me an idea of what this could be
Im currently on an oil rig for the next 7 days so will go back to the docs when i get home
Im hoping to get some info so I can ask the doctor to test for specific things that this could be as the diagnostics are taking a long time and im having no relief.
thanks a lot!!
Hey there Steven,
Don't forget that I am not a professional. Having said that I am having a hard time seeing the inside of the nostril. It looks very red. Is it also a growth? Like a polyp? or is it just very red? I have seen both in real life to look like that. One case, my son's who was very allergic to a pet bird. He grew very red polyps in his nose. They did not go away until the bird was placed in a new home and our home was very cleaned up. My own nose tissue has gotten to the point of beet redness from both allergies and infections. Your finger joints look very similar to one of my fingers which has a pretty concentrated amount of arthritis in the knuckle AND mine for sure inflames horribly either when my sugar intake is high (eating a bunch of junk) or if I have another illness. As for your tonsil, it certainly does not look normal. But don't forget that they are part of your immune system to help kick out anything that might not below in your not limited to but including bacteria or fungus. So you definitely exhibit signs that your body is trying to protect you from something it appears to me. Did they only try you for a short time on diflucan? and you said you started to feel better right? Has anyone done a culture on your tonsil? You know, to see if they could grow a bacteria or fungus from it? Just thoughts that are crossing my mind. I believe the docs need to start culturing your throat and sinuses to try to see a specific cause rather than guessing and rx'ing you random meds since one med could actually make another issue worse, ya know? The swollen tonsil could be as simple as tonsilitis, I say "simple" as to compare with a worse illness. tonsilitis can often require removal of the tonsil if bad and recurring. Maybe you have had tonislitis long enough for your whole body to start kicking in its immune system. Arthritis is related to immune system. You may just have a bunch of inflammation due to an unattended infection. The key is going to be getting the doc to run the right tests and rx the right things I believe. Again that thing in your nose, if it looks like a bulb or growth, could very well be a polyp which the doc should look at also.
Hope that helps a little. I know it's hard not to freak out when there are unsolved mysteries with our health.
When will you get to the doc again?
Don't forget that I am not a professional. Having said that I am having a hard time seeing the inside of the nostril. It looks very red. Is it also a growth? Like a polyp? or is it just very red? I have seen both in real life to look like that. One case, my son's who was very allergic to a pet bird. He grew very red polyps in his nose. They did not go away until the bird was placed in a new home and our home was very cleaned up. My own nose tissue has gotten to the point of beet redness from both allergies and infections. Your finger joints look very similar to one of my fingers which has a pretty concentrated amount of arthritis in the knuckle AND mine for sure inflames horribly either when my sugar intake is high (eating a bunch of junk) or if I have another illness. As for your tonsil, it certainly does not look normal. But don't forget that they are part of your immune system to help kick out anything that might not below in your not limited to but including bacteria or fungus. So you definitely exhibit signs that your body is trying to protect you from something it appears to me. Did they only try you for a short time on diflucan? and you said you started to feel better right? Has anyone done a culture on your tonsil? You know, to see if they could grow a bacteria or fungus from it? Just thoughts that are crossing my mind. I believe the docs need to start culturing your throat and sinuses to try to see a specific cause rather than guessing and rx'ing you random meds since one med could actually make another issue worse, ya know? The swollen tonsil could be as simple as tonsilitis, I say "simple" as to compare with a worse illness. tonsilitis can often require removal of the tonsil if bad and recurring. Maybe you have had tonislitis long enough for your whole body to start kicking in its immune system. Arthritis is related to immune system. You may just have a bunch of inflammation due to an unattended infection. The key is going to be getting the doc to run the right tests and rx the right things I believe. Again that thing in your nose, if it looks like a bulb or growth, could very well be a polyp which the doc should look at also.
Hope that helps a little. I know it's hard not to freak out when there are unsolved mysteries with our health.
When will you get to the doc again?
hi again Rhonda... my wife noticed today that I have a rather large bright red growth up my nose... im a little worried its related to my swollen tonsil..
here is a link to an online album showing pics of it... what do you think
I have included a pic of my swollen tonsil and my slightly discolored finger joints.
http://imgur.com/a/sJFlH
here is a link to an online album showing pics of it... what do you think
I have included a pic of my swollen tonsil and my slightly discolored finger joints.
http://imgur.com/a/sJFlH
So sorry to hear that. Wow. Well at least you are going to a specialist. Here's to hoping they will discover the issue and get started on treatment asap.
Thanks for keeping us posted.
I will be interested in hearing about their findings, Steven.
prayers and God bless,
Rhonda
Thanks for keeping us posted.
I will be interested in hearing about their findings, Steven.
prayers and God bless,
Rhonda
hey again...
I guess i was just having a good few days by luck... all back to the usual now.. never mind
have been referred to a specialist so hopefully they will know whats going on
thanks
I guess i was just having a good few days by luck... all back to the usual now.. never mind
have been referred to a specialist so hopefully they will know whats going on
thanks
Wow, Stevenggg! That seems fast for a med to work but who would complain, right?!!! I hope they have figured it out! Whatever the reason It is great that you have had a good day! Thanks for the update, so nice to hear. Please check back with another update in a week or so if you can just to let us know your progress!
Continuing to pray for you.
Blessings,
Rhonda
Continuing to pray for you.
Blessings,
Rhonda
Ok guys just to give you an update... Went to the doctor on monday... Over the weekend i had been at my worst.. The fatigue was unbearable and joint and muscle pain was relentless... He wasnt quite sure what was going on so he referred me to a specialist... But in the meantime he gave me some diazapa. To help my muscles and a 7 day course of antifungal... I think its called fluexanol or something... Well omg i feel so much better.. This morning i woke up and almost all my symptoms were gone.. I had a normal day for the first time in 6 months... Im pretty much convinced now that this has been a andida issue and plan to stick to a sugar free diet permanantly!
I know its only Thursday but am hoping you will come back on here to let us know how you did with the doc! Hope you are steadily getting better and finding answers.
OK, now it all makes a bit more sense, I'm sure you are looking forward to land :) and family.
Stay blessed!
Stay blessed!
right now im in the middle of the north sea.. and let me tell ya the weather is CRAZY!!...
I get the chopper home on wednesday so I dont have too long to wait.
I get the chopper home on wednesday so I dont have too long to wait.
It's winter here right now so the waves would be very cold LOL . And we have several winter storms coming through back to back here on the east coast USA so the waves were pretty crazy looking on the photos friends have shared. I spend summer there, where the pic is taken and I am presently about 2 and 1/2 hours inland of the beach. We just had a bunch of snow drop on us, a little more than the area is regularly accustomed to....so snowboarding would be a better choice right now where I am also :)
Sounds like you might wanna take it easy for a bit, though, huh? The kids need there dad to get healthy :) and then you could have at it! It's good though, it sounds like you have access to your family and docs, I was thinking you were literally 'out' somewhere stationed and unable to get to adequate help.
Once again, blessings!
Sounds like you might wanna take it easy for a bit, though, huh? The kids need there dad to get healthy :) and then you could have at it! It's good though, it sounds like you have access to your family and docs, I was thinking you were literally 'out' somewhere stationed and unable to get to adequate help.
Once again, blessings!
For sure rhonda... Il be fine just have to get that doctor of his lazy *** so he can refer me to someone who can actually give some answers... I see you like the waves... Whats the surf like over there at the moment... Here in scotland we get some good surf but the snowboarding is better ;-) supposed to be taking my kids up the hill next saturday but i think i might struggle lol x
right, but did you read the link and what can really happen? I mean if we read the real deal or someone tells us BEFORE we take some of these things we MIGHT NOT even take em. Anyway, even if joint pain weren't a side effect listed there is always a possibility of either a candida in the joints or basic inflammation being caused by something whether it be illness or side effect.
It is easy to think that everything we are experiencing is all caused by one thing or all related to one illness but sometimes it can be a couple different things going on a the same time....I know from first hand experience, LOL, I have been known to totally freak myself out...but all in all it turns out to be a good thing to be persistent in getting answers...NO DOUBT. Hang in there man!
It is easy to think that everything we are experiencing is all caused by one thing or all related to one illness but sometimes it can be a couple different things going on a the same time....I know from first hand experience, LOL, I have been known to totally freak myself out...but all in all it turns out to be a good thing to be persistent in getting answers...NO DOUBT. Hang in there man!
yeah im off the cipro now... i think you might be right and most of my symtoms could be a reaction to the cipro. Im going to speak to my doctor about it next week... he didnt mention anything about side effects and there was nothing about joint pain in the insert... all it said was that this antibiotic can cause C-DIFF
check out this link showing ALL the crazy side effects of the cipro. Have another doc make sure your prostate is ok (maybe they were wrong about enlarged??? and your intestine are ok too, no hernia, no polyps etc w/colonsocopy) but I find this list here VERY interesting.... http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/ciprofloxacin-oral-route/side-effects/drg-20072288
P.S.
yeast infections/fungal infections also goes upper gastro issues like increased reflux and indigestion, which really can clear up quite nicely once the candidas or fungus is under control.
So many things, including the stress of unknown illness, can cause our digestive system to go whacky. Stress, coffee, processed foods, chocolate, too many oranges, etc can ALL cause the lower esoph sphincter to stay open and not keep the acid where it is supposed to stay (in the stomach)...it is rarely really too much acid as a cause...the acid we need and it is just not being held into it's intended home, usually.
yeast infections/fungal infections also goes upper gastro issues like increased reflux and indigestion, which really can clear up quite nicely once the candidas or fungus is under control.
So many things, including the stress of unknown illness, can cause our digestive system to go whacky. Stress, coffee, processed foods, chocolate, too many oranges, etc can ALL cause the lower esoph sphincter to stay open and not keep the acid where it is supposed to stay (in the stomach)...it is rarely really too much acid as a cause...the acid we need and it is just not being held into it's intended home, usually.
Steven,
I just read again over the top description you wrote and it looks like the only symptom you really had BEFORE the rx of cipro was your ab pain, is that right?
Have you looked at the huge range of side effects and complications accompanying cipro? It's kinda crazy. You very well could be suffering complications of that rx...maybe will start getting better soon on it own as your system fights to get rid of whatever the rx left in you...just guessing.
Obviously you do need to try to find out still what's going on.
But reviewing that info up top it looks like much of your stuff may have been brought on by the cipro or made worse by it. Worthy bringing up to doc and re eval of liver and kidney function in case the rx did cause an issue. Good news on that possibility is that you are off it now, right?
Are you drinking plenty of water?
Also continuing to address the original mystery ab pain w/ imaging or colonoscopy, and yes, you should get your reflux under control now so your tummy and esophagus can have a break..
Was the original pain it in, near, or related to your groin? Could you have a hernia? (of course I am now connecting with my own experience as I went years and years w/o someone figuring out that I had a hernia).
I'd almost bet (but I don't gamble) that if most of your symptoms came on AFTER starting the cipro that much of what you are experiencing either came from that or was made worse by it.
If possible fungal/candida and can't get to doc there are certain things you can do to stop feeding it, one you've already done: stopped eating sugar. That's hard to do! It's in almost everything unless you eat whole,non fruit foods. But garlic and coconut oil both have anti-fungal properties, topically and internally FYI
http://blog.sterishoe.com/toenail-fungus-treatments/10-foods-for-an-antifungal-diet/
Again I am not a professional, if there is something very safe we can do like food choices to help a situation...WHY NOT try it, right? It can't hurt.
Keeping you in prayer and hoping you begin to see improvements very soon. It can be so stressful to not know what is going on.
Blessings!
Rhonda
I just read again over the top description you wrote and it looks like the only symptom you really had BEFORE the rx of cipro was your ab pain, is that right?
Have you looked at the huge range of side effects and complications accompanying cipro? It's kinda crazy. You very well could be suffering complications of that rx...maybe will start getting better soon on it own as your system fights to get rid of whatever the rx left in you...just guessing.
Obviously you do need to try to find out still what's going on.
But reviewing that info up top it looks like much of your stuff may have been brought on by the cipro or made worse by it. Worthy bringing up to doc and re eval of liver and kidney function in case the rx did cause an issue. Good news on that possibility is that you are off it now, right?
Are you drinking plenty of water?
Also continuing to address the original mystery ab pain w/ imaging or colonoscopy, and yes, you should get your reflux under control now so your tummy and esophagus can have a break..
Was the original pain it in, near, or related to your groin? Could you have a hernia? (of course I am now connecting with my own experience as I went years and years w/o someone figuring out that I had a hernia).
I'd almost bet (but I don't gamble) that if most of your symptoms came on AFTER starting the cipro that much of what you are experiencing either came from that or was made worse by it.
If possible fungal/candida and can't get to doc there are certain things you can do to stop feeding it, one you've already done: stopped eating sugar. That's hard to do! It's in almost everything unless you eat whole,non fruit foods. But garlic and coconut oil both have anti-fungal properties, topically and internally FYI
http://blog.sterishoe.com/toenail-fungus-treatments/10-foods-for-an-antifungal-diet/
Again I am not a professional, if there is something very safe we can do like food choices to help a situation...WHY NOT try it, right? It can't hurt.
Keeping you in prayer and hoping you begin to see improvements very soon. It can be so stressful to not know what is going on.
Blessings!
Rhonda
"Rarely, yellow tongue may indicate a problem with your liver or gallbladder." -Mayo Clinic.
Yes, candida can cause joint problems, like arthritis if the candida has gotten into them.
Did many of your symptoms actually come on or get worse after the cipro?
Yes, candida can cause joint problems, like arthritis if the candida has gotten into them.
Did many of your symptoms actually come on or get worse after the cipro?
Hi again. Yes you can upload photos online your medhelp page. I have hyperpigmentation myself. My reasons include vitamin B12 deficiency and acanthosis nigricans (due to severe insulin resistance). There isn't any redness involved with acanthosis nigricans though.
My mother no longer suffers severe GERD/LPR since stopping acid blocker nexium and starting betaine HCI with pepsin supplements (to increase stomach acid) and digestive enzyme supplements (to help with digestion). She also has a hiatus hernia but these supplements still prevent acid reflux.
She had numerous symptoms of not enough stomach acid but included severe fungal infections. She failed the baking soda test with flying colours. Took an hour to burp! I posted this stomach acid test on another answer...
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Vitamins--Supplements/vitamin-mineral-absorption-and-anxiety/show/1723371
My mother no longer suffers severe GERD/LPR since stopping acid blocker nexium and starting betaine HCI with pepsin supplements (to increase stomach acid) and digestive enzyme supplements (to help with digestion). She also has a hiatus hernia but these supplements still prevent acid reflux.
She had numerous symptoms of not enough stomach acid but included severe fungal infections. She failed the baking soda test with flying colours. Took an hour to burp! I posted this stomach acid test on another answer...
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Vitamins--Supplements/vitamin-mineral-absorption-and-anxiety/show/1723371
im reading that a sudden onset of Acanthosis nigricans often accompanies joint pain and is a sign of cancer.. especially stomach or colon or liver cancer..
I have a hiatal hernia and had treatment for helibactor pylori in the past,... I suffer from terrible acid reflux and have done for years.. in the past few months it has been much worse but i ignored it.. its only reflux.. im used to it.
oh dear...
im gonna an edoscopy done asap and a colonoscopy as I also had all that blood in my stool...
il speak to the doctor as soon as I get back...
seems to fit
I have a hiatal hernia and had treatment for helibactor pylori in the past,... I suffer from terrible acid reflux and have done for years.. in the past few months it has been much worse but i ignored it.. its only reflux.. im used to it.
oh dear...
im gonna an edoscopy done asap and a colonoscopy as I also had all that blood in my stool...
il speak to the doctor as soon as I get back...
seems to fit
or it could actually be Acanthosis nigricans?.. can I upload a picture on here (i dont know if you can do that)
looking at these pictures im pretty sure its actually Acanthosis nigricans
looking at these pictures im pretty sure its actually Acanthosis nigricans
my fingers look almost exactly like this but the discolouration is darker and the joints dont look swollen
http://health-fts.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/rheumatoid-arthritis.html
http://health-fts.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/rheumatoid-arthritis.html
the red joints on my fingers look like they are changing a little bit.. today they are more dark than red.. its the joint nearest the fingernail on all my fingers.. the skin over the joint looks kind of reddish brown.. could this be hyperpigmentation rather than inflamed joints?
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