lip sore

[oreopix_love]

Dear Doc,pls advise me on this matter.  I been to e vet 2x. After completed antibiotic the sore start again with oozy of blood. I took advise from this forum use home remedies by using apple cider mix with water to clean it. Do u think it looks better than the first pics?advise needed. Many thanks.

[CML2014]

Hi Oreo,

Not to be a pest......but Please let us know about you  kitty. Have you gotten back to the vets? Is he on new meds?

Thanks,
CML

[CML2014]

Hi Oreo,

I am worried about you kitty!  Have you gotten back to the vets for further care?
Please let us know , K?

Thanks,
CML

[CML2014]

Also agree with Opus , please stop using Apple Cider Vinegar---Ouch!!!! even thinking about this.

P.S. You cat is a beauty!!! Let's get her feeling better fast, K?

[opus88]

forgot to mention...NO I do not think it is looking better, infact it appears to look like the ACV is burning the lip....:( I wouldn't advise using any longer.

[opus88]

yes the previous posters are correct this is indeed Eosinophilic Granuloma(EOC) otherwise called Rodent Ulcer...and is caused by a food allergy!!!!!
please refer to this link I posted previously for diet changes. AVOID steroids if at all possible, changes in diet usually work. also be very sure you are NOT using plastic dishes

I gave a link with photos of EOC but will post it again for easy reference....scroll down to you find it. good luck

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Cats/Lump-on-cats-lower-lip/show/2408884#post_11694869

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Cats/Lump-on-cats-lower-lip/show/2408884#post_11694869

[CML2014]

Hi Oreo,

POOR BABY!!!! That looks pretty nasty.....I agree with Annie, looks like it could be a Rodent Ulcer (Indolent ulcer, Eosinophilic ulcer). You address your posts to Doc--did you mean to get the Professional forum of Veterinarians???  That would be my suggestion, since we can not make diagnosis only suggestions and general opinions.

So if a general , unprofessional opinion is ok with you here goes:

The rodent ulcer begins with a yellow or pink smooth area and as it develops it becomes an Open sore or ulcer.
My concern is this must be treated with a steroid , probably Depro-medrol injection or Prednisone pills.  (and I hate steroids for animals , because of their side effects), but short term this is what should heal these sores.

Veterinary supervision is required because this is considered a pre-cancerous condition, and Early vigorous treatment is required.
Sometimes this is an indication of a compromised immune system and your cat should be tested for the Leukemia virus. Don't worry though this is not a definitive sign of the virus , but to be safe the test should be preformed.

The Depro Injections are long lasting and are given at two week interval, usually three courses are needed. Alternately prednisone can be given until the ulcer disappears.

Perhaps your vet has given you Trimethoprin-sulfa (antibiotic ) as an initial trial of antibiotics may be       of value since some forms of Eosinophilic Granuloma Complex respond to this treatment. If this has not worked then you are probably going to have to go the Depro route.

All of the above info is from my trusty Veterinary Handbook. So you must have this confirmed and treated by your veterinarian ASAP!

Is your kit able to eat and drink? If not you need to get him IV fluids for dehydration and try baby food (lamb) as an enticement to eat. Your cat needs to eat and drink--this is of utmost importance.

So please let us know what your Vet has to say and how your kit is holding up. We worry with you.

Hope this helps somewhat.
Sincerely ,
CML

[AnnieBrooke]

It looks like a rodent ulcer, which I believe is treated with a steroid, not an antibiotic.  Eucinophilic granuloma is the other name, I think.