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TCI replied..new issues...MRI Scanning

Hi this is in continuation to http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Chiari-Malformation/update/show/1195702?personal_page_id=1166675#post_5478621

I am seeing docs in my city to gather as many as opinion before going for second surgery and also pursuing for an earlier date.

Today I faced a completely new symtom..don't know if its actually a symtom...I had trouble in breathing in..I had suffocation kind of feeling for 30 minutes.

Further I had vomiting 4 times in last three days maybe it is a sign that my symptoms are increasing but doctors say their isn't any radiological deterioration in past 2 years. things haven't improved but they haven't even worsened.. n I am expected to take this as a positive sign.

My brother wrote a reminder mail to The Chiari Institute and they said they can't download my MRI images.

I sent it in .rar format(compressed). Now I sent some 250 images in plain jpeg format

But they are also asking me for my pre op MRI. I didn't take My Pre-op MRI in CD so its in film and my imaging lab deleted it from their system. So is their any way. If i simply picture it against some light source will it work?
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1179332 tn?1297478990
Good for you....let us know what they say!

Carolyn
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That was a great info.

Thanks a ton for that.

Will see if similar services are available here in India.

or else eill contact these guys. Thanks a lot

In the meantime I simply mailed them the decent pics I got from a little experimentation. Awaiting their reply
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1236570 tn?1276738525
Yeah sorry, I was really paying attention. I was just reading the post.

I tried googling a couple things to see what I could find. I typed in things like "digitizing x-rays" and "how to copy x-ray films" and "x-ray film to CD conversion" etc... there were several web sites that look like they offer this type of service. I don't know if you can (or would want to) do this kind of thing through the mail.

This is just an example of one of the web sites that came up.
http://www.xraycopyservice.com/index.html

Good luck!
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1179332 tn?1297478990
Yeah Selma..that's what I was wondering too, if they would have the same laws there. I wish I knew...

Let us know how it works out!
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Pre op MRI are 24-12-2007..quite old i guess

I will look for laws here.

Those guys said its impossible to convert from film to digital format
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620923 tn?1452915648
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The problem u may not realize is he is in India and I am sure the laws that govern this may not be the same.....I could be wrong, but it is possible.
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1179332 tn?1297478990
That's true Stephanie...I'm not sure that it's legal for them to have erased them after 2 years... It's a good point, I would go back to them and ask them to convert it for you.

Carolyn
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1236570 tn?1276738525
How old are these films you're trying to copy? Its the law that hosptials have to keep your records for a long time (not sure exactly what the law is but I know its quite some time).
And even if they don't have access to them you should be able to take them back to the place where you had them done. They should have something that can take film and put them in digital format. If the lab itself doesn't know try talking to the medical records department.
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That would be so kind of you
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I contacted some photoshops but they say we can't do it. They aint even ready to try.

I have a normal scanner without transparency adapter ..maybe with it things would have been easier. I did many experiments of which 3 gave decent results

1. I put the film on scanner . and a table lamp covered with tracing paper placed above it. The catch is to more the table lamp such that its light is at some position as the scanner light.

2. Put the film on scanner. connected it to laptop. On my LCD monitor I put a white bacground of full brightness and the placed the monitor upside down over the film. And then scanned.

3. Pur a white image as a full screen background on LCD screen. Fixed scans over it using clips and clicked pics using digicam. Make sure you dont change zoom and other setting for any image.

In all cases images will have to be stitched using some image processing program. There was a little lateral shift which joinging the images

All digicams cams have panorama mode which makes it easy in case u using 3rd exp
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620923 tn?1452915648
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WOW...great info...let us know how it works !!
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1179332 tn?1297478990
I get the breathing thing you describe....with it comes a feeling of chest tightness especially on my right side. The vomiting though...does sound concerning to me.

I would contact the TCI and tell them the situation with your film...maybe they could suggest something to you. I imagine you could mail it securely but since it's your only copy you will want it back. You are a far ways from where I live and I have no idea of your resources but you should be able to find a photo shop that could take the film and put it on a CD. If you do...get several copies!!

Carolyn
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I found this:

If your scanner doesn't have a transparency adapter, scan the MRI image while holding a flashlight, lamp, etc shining onto the MRI film from above (you may have to play with distance to get the best shot).  You also have to cover the film with some white paper, play with thickness and number of papers too. - my buddy and I did this and the results weren't bad.
A couple more ideas on scanning would be to make your own light box or playing around with your scanner.

Make your own light box

Pull apart you dining room table and cover the gap with a piece of the white "dropped ceiling" stuff. Put a shade less lamp on the floor under the dining room table gap.  Take a picture, either with a digital camera or with a regular camera

OR:

Buy a stencil box for $12.00 at a craft store.  This is a very small box,  with a small light placed behind  the white cover.   If you do this, you  will only be able to photograph one view at the time.

SCANNER METHOD
For this you will need a halogen desk lamp. Place your MRI on your scanner.  Leave your scanner lid opened.  With the  halogen desk lamp, follow the scanner light as it moves across the surface.  Your light and the the scanner light will be moving together.   A piece of white tracing paper can be placed on top of the MRI to buffer the  halogen light source. You will have to try it and play around with your technique but it can be done.

Don't forget, if you use the scanner method, save in JPEG, it takes up much less space on your computer and transfers faster.

Find someone with a transparency adaptor for their scanner .....they are commonly used in print shops , newspaper offices and the like ...so calling around may locate one .

Put the MRI up to a well lit window and take a picture with a digital camera.
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620923 tn?1452915648
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Sorry I have no idea...let us know what u do find out tho....

Good luck

"selma"
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