Adult playing doctor with children

[Kate11600]

A female adult (self-appointed, self-named "Grandma", not a relative just a friend of the family) plays doctor with young child (4 and 7 year old girls)?  Woman has girls to her home without parents on a regular basis because her own grandchildren live far away and she doesn't get to see them.  Girls pretend they are sick.  "Grandma" pretends to be doctor and writes a medical chart for them - then makes them feel better.  How does she make you feel better?  Chart says "ice cream".  4 year old says, "She rubs my belly and my arms and legs. And she gives me a shot in the butt."  Does she pull your pants down?  "No."  One day 7 year old child said she didn't feel well and wrote note to a relative she was with that she "doesn't feel good that she thinks she will throw up. (Not sure if she was really not feeling well.) 7 year old says, "I want something to help me feel better."  Relative asked her if she needed medicine.  "No."  Then girl writes another note, "I feel bad, bad, bad.  Do something to make me feel better."  Asked relative to rub her belly but demonstrates how to rub her belly - by stroking downward from belly button.  Relative rubbed her back instead.  Also, 7 year old runs and hides herself when asked about a medical chart she wrote for her doll ("Lungs good/ shot") and doesn't want to talk about it.
Also, 4 year old greet relative by deliberately tickling relative in the crotch as though it were funny (just after being at "Grandma's house.)  Next day 4 year old gets down on hands and knees and places stuffed toy animal under her and grunting, pretends to be giving birth to a puppy.  
"Grandma"  tells girls that she has new toys for them (toys stay at "Grandma's house) but that they can only have them if they come over.  7 year old one day went hysterical crying, curled up in fetal position.  After she calmed down, relative asked her if she had a bad day in school - "Was anyone mean to you in school?  Do you feel all right?  Does anyone confuse you?"  7 year old hesitates then says, "Yes, 'Grandma'".  How does she confuse you?  "She always says she has new toys for us to play with but she usually never does."  Relative replies, "That would be confusing."  There's more.... Could this all have a reasonable explanation or is the children's behavior alarming?

[irrelevance]

Whoever asked if she was the sick one, I have personally posted the same question in several places, you get varied responses from many different people that way.

However, before I can comment on your situation, I have a few questions myself.

How do you know of each particular case? Are you a mother of one or both of the girls? Is this some sort of concerned conversation amongst mothers? If so -- why are you/they sending their children back there to begin with? It is up to the parents to say they can or cannot go to this ladies house and if you are clearly suspecting foul-play I would cut communications right off the bat. However the other posters had some good suggestions on how to approach the situation. I do not see how you would know the details of each particular girls' case unless you were somehow involved with the family so could you supply better details to this situation, especially with your "There's more" at the end. It would be much easier to help give advice if I knew more about the situation.

[george73]

I do not think your're crazy. Neither do I think you should wait around. I also would not let my child go there ever again alone. She sounds a little strange. Normaly adults know that playing doctor really isn't an acceptable pass time at any age. CPS should be called if the parents are not doing anything about it.If kids still keep going there they should also be called. If 'Grandma' truly wants to be with children then why not boys also? What happened to tea parties and story time. I wouldn't neccesarily go talk to her as that could just make her a little more cautious and harder to catch if something really is happening. Why not make a few unexpected visits? Then if need be call CPS. DO NOT WAIT. Every minute counts when it can effect a childs life a long long time!

[socgirl]

It definitely sounds a little strange and out of the norm.  However, it's hard to tell from your post if anything illegal is going on.

That being said, I agree with the previous poster and follow your gut instincts.  Have you ever brought up these concerns to her?  I think you should speak to her about it and tell her that you feel it's inappropriate.  I don't know that I would rush and call CPS, but maybe tell her that if she wants to see the children, she will have to come to your house to see them when you can be there. In some ways, it sounds like an elderly woman that just loves company.  

[momagain59]

You have posted this same question 4 times in different post. Are you the sick Grandma here?

[babygirl6152]

follow your instincts- if you think something is odd- it may be- just pulling your child from "grandma" doesn't protect the others to come----- hmmmm

hmmmmm

follow your heart

I am also one of these old ladies that loves children but I work at a preschool and hugging is nice but- geeee- I don't have children to m y house unless the parent brings them to have a sitter. Just curious how they ended up there in the first place? Lured? Mom thought she WAS a nice old lady?

I see red flags too

so are you mom? Is mom concerned?

when CPS is called it is my understanding if it is in good faith, and nothing is found then.... since you are innocent as could be in reporting, you did your job...It is CPS job to investigate and rule if there is reason to believe there is wrong-doing. Does that make sense? If it hasn't gotten "that far yet" maybe it will be enough to wake "grandma" up and she will leave others alone....