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BAD THOUGHTS from my 7 year old

Please help me understand my daughter....The past week..she has been displaying very strange behavior...she says...I can't help what my brain is thinking...Grandma is stupid...tonite..she says...Mommy....My brain is saying something that you will mad at....I hate you ..Mommy...I was so upset...she started to cry..and said...I am sorry mommy...its not me...she tells me..her brain doesn't have any self control...and she can't seem to get these bad thoughts out of her head...but claims...she loves me....but these bad things pop into her brain...and she can't get rid of them...WHAT is this?  It is really scaring me so much...What is happening to my little girl...?Please help me....I can't help but cry....

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Hi I know this is old but I wanted to add this in case there are any other worried parents. First off I am 15 and I think I know what your daughter is going through. It
Is hard to explain but I will give it a shot. So here is how I explained it to my therapist, there are two sides of my brain the good and the bad, kind of like the devil and angel on the shoulder. The good side of my brain will usually tell me (not literally) to do something positive or whatever and the bad side will try to knock it down so it is constant bickering back and forth between the two sides. for instance, the other day I was really excited to work on a project but at the exact same time I did not want to because my negative thoughts were clouding in. In your case I think the bad side of your daughters thoughts is telling her (not literally, I do not think she is hearing voices) that she hates you but the good side is pushing and saying it is not true and I think that is where she feels guilty about it and the reasoning for crying. It is a really hard thing to go through so if you want to help your daughter show her your support. I truly believe she does not hate you, it is just her negative energy. If I am right about all of this please understand from a standpoint of someone who goes through the same thoughts as your daughter she does not want you to hate her and know that she loves you very very much.
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This actually sounds a bit like schizophrenia you might want to talk to a professional about it
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I'm not sure if I'm the only one who experienced this as a child but it has, since then resoleved itself. Sometimes I still get the visions but more-so the feelings now. I am 27 years old and even into my 20's I had to tell myself that the things I was seeing were not real and I HAVE CONTROL OF MY BRAIN. I bossed it back.
Every time I would close my eyes I would see scary faces or gory details of death. I don't really know if this is normal but I am wondering if it is simply gaining awareness of ones thoughts?
That is about the age when we start to develop conscious thinking, maybe we just start to realize it then and some of us cope quickly by tuning it out or distracting ourselves, where as for others the process takes longer.
Now I work with children and am a counsellor. I am seeing these behaviors in the same age students as all of you and wondering if that's what it might be.
Any thoughts?
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That sounds like it's definitely a possibility.
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Kids can suffer anxiety believe it or not.  And as you know, OCD is a disorder that falls under the anxiety umbrella.  I'd hope that you get a referrall to a psychiatrist that deals with children.  There are many techniques that they can work with her on to help her anxiety which may or may not be ocd.  In truth, many kids do things that look like ocd.  My younger son is a bit obsessive wtih order.  I roll with it as it doesn't interfere in his life (the hallmark sign of a disorder is when it crosses over and begins to cause issues).  But a psychiatrist can help you understand if more than normal childhood issues are going on.  I wish you luck dear.
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Thanks I enjoyed readings this helped on similar things I going through
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I am a huge believer in getting children and adults who feel out of control either emotionally or physically, evaluated by a professional. The depth of the bad thoughts may be normal for the child's age. They may not be normal. If the child in distressed by them, please seek help. There isn't no shame in doing so. I have a 24 year old son who has been in therapy since he was 7. He has several issues but has never acted out violently. I worked in the field of mental health for many years and was lucky enough to be able to pick up on things others may not have. Better safe than sorry. Always better to seek help. She may need medication to calm her thoughts down. Good luck.
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First and foremost get your child away from him! You dont want your brother in law to be a bad inflence on your son. Has anyone tried to get him professional help? If not I would try and help him see if you can locate a therapist who would be willing to make a house call a few times so he gets to know and trust him. Just introduce the therapist as a family friend coming to visit and then work up to telling him the truth. He might have been touched inappropriately and is scared to tell anyone so that could be causing him to act out. He may feel as adults you (and the rest of the family) should know what happen and he may think noone cares so why should he.
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My wife found a very good article on this. I hope it helps someone. http://www.worrywisekids.org/node/120
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Being someone who has no control over my thoughts I understand that they can be contradictory to how you really feel. Some children can feel like this and be upset because she doesn't understand. I recommend just reassuring her
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What ended up happening? My daughter is 4 and is doing the same thing.
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Has she seen any horror movies/TV shows/internet videos recently? She could be mimicking something she saw. This is just a thought I had while reading the original question.

Of course, it's possible that there is something going on psychologically.
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  Besides my other post to you, I wonder what her teacher is saying?  Does she see any problems?  Kids will do things for attention.   And just as suddenly as it happened it may be gone.  But, I would ask the teacher if she is having any academic problems that could indicate other problems.
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I was just wondering I got twin 8 year old boys this is random he started this again and done this 2 years old but I don't want feel I'm in denial just need guidance he he intelligent and school very good helpful too in his class along with his brother no trouble ever then at home only place arguments with us adults about silly things most part good kid then randomly months later things he says his head feels tells him do something he can't control and cries something idk how he feels but sometimes wonder he gets upset cause he feels it bothers me I'm so concerned is it maybe ok jealousy twin sibling thing stages or something be concerned about my kids are very tight 98.9 of time they are inseparable
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my 6 year old daughter saw the c word and has since spelled it twice.They are all independent of each other. I was gently told today that parents are making other parents aware that my daughter is spelling this word and to be careful if she plays with their children. She has also mentioned that she doesn't know why she says what she says and does what she does. I am at such a loss and my hearts breaking. I was picked on in school and was never invited to any friends houses or birthday parties. Now, my poor little girl who loves, plays, smiles and has a huge heart is doing things to make others not want to be her friend.

I am so afraid for her and want whats best. This week has been hell for me 4 human deaths and a feline death. When I was told about parents telling each other, I said that that was at the bottom of my list because of all the loss I am dealing with this week. I was then told that that concerns them because that should be at the top of the list. I explained that my girl was punished, had things taken away from her and was yelled at. That she had her favorite things taken away from her. She wrote a note to the little girl she spelled it to saying she was sorry. I was told that my daughter can't play with this little girl alone for a while.

I understand that, I really do, but what can I do to help my child? She's had some issues in the past and is seeing a child therapist, but now, I'm not so sure that that's working. She has such a loving nature, very clingy with me and hates to be away from me. What is there for me to do? My beautiful little princess deserves to have friends and to be good. So scared for her. Please help me help her. Please.
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Seek prfessional help
Therapy somtimes takes steps backwards, stagnates, or seems ineffective at first. Talk with the therapist And a fullflwdged child psychologist about your concerns and they can better tell you what is happening and what to expect going forward. Don't panic, things usually get worse before they get better
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Please help... my almost 5yr old (10/29/13) daughter is also displaying the exact behavior.  She tells me and her dad that "I hate you... but I know I love you but my brain keeps telling me that I hate you."  And a few times when she would say that it was like her brain would get stuck and she repeated it over and over and couldn't stop herself. What ended up happening with your child?  Did everything turn out ok?  Did you take her to a therapist?  I'm so scared for my sweet girl... who before this started never said mean things and always said "I love you for infinity" it could take 20min just to tuck her in at night because of all the ways we could tell each other how much we love each other. Anyone?  I'm so worried
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Depending on her age she might just be dealing with not understanding her emotions very well. If you are really concerned then take her to a child psychologist that you trust and have her evaluated. It's painless and usually fun for kids
It may be schizophrenia, which my sister has had for 18 years. It manifested the same way. As hard as it may be to think your child could have this it is very important to have them checked by their doctor and also mental health centers. I hope this helps and i mean no disrespect :)
Please research PANS/PANDAS. You can start with the PANDAS Network. They have doctors listed that are trained to dx and tx. You can also type in PANDAS on FB for more info and guidance. Of it is this, the sooner it is dx and tx the better. So much care and support to you.





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Wondering if anyone has any updates or answers from psychologists on this issue.  It seems so common, I find it hard to believe that nobody has received any diagnosis.
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my daughter turned 7 in January and all of a sudden she has started saying that she has "feelings" that tells her to say she doesn't love me then gets upset because she doesn't mean it. she says she nevers hears the thoughts at school. plz help
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Hi I was just wondering if you saw the Doctor and what they said? I am also worried about my daughter.
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I too am going through this with my 6 year old daughter which also happens to be in fist grade.  This just started last week and it frustrates me not knowing how to go about helping her when she is crying out for help.  I have spoken to the counselor and she is in constant watch over her I have set up an appointment with her dr. for next week just to reassure myself that it isn't anything medical going on.  
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Help did these issues resolve themselves my 5 year old is having the same thoughts - I'm so worried!!! Please and advice
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    Kind of think the dream is more about him being a bad boy and not being able to help it, then your death.  Once you have seen the doc, (or even before if you have any questions) I am also the CL over on the ADHD forum.  Please feel free to post  here - http://www.medhelp.org/forums/ADD---ADHD/show/175 if you have any questions.  I also have a ton of resources if you need more information.  Best wishes!
  
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Hi, This sounds just like my 6 year old son! He will tell me he loves me every 10 mins and he comes up with very strange things also!  Like today he came home from school and first thing he says to me is not hello but mom my head told me something bad but im not going to tell you because you will be mad, So i brought him into another room away from everyone and told him no mommy wont be mad and he tells me that he had a dream that I killed myself because he was being a bad boy. Of course I said no I would never do that! Sounds like we could be going through the same thing so if you have figured it out could you let me know! Like you said this is emotionally exhausting! He does have a doctor appointment soon because we are concerned he could have a mild case of adhd, he has a very hard time relaxing and focusing!
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Wow, reading these posts I don't feel alone! My daughter is 6 almost 7, she tells me 'I love you' up to 40 times a day to the point where I tell her to please stop as it drives me nuts. I know that sounds awful but she knows I adore her and I do of course tell her that I love her too. I've asked her why she says it so much and she says 'it keeps going round in my head until I say it'...! I've had OCD for 13 years now and I'm so worried she's developing it. My other two children seem 'normal' in comparison. I have a lot of concerns
for her, when she was 3, she went through a
stage of pulling her eye lashes out! She's just not right and as a mother you just know when something's going on. She's going for a 'mental evaluation' with a paediatrician next week so hopefully they can shed some light on it. I'm to the point where I feel I'm mentally drained most the time in her company which makes me feel so awful. She constantly comes out with wierd things like ' I hate you mummy, not really I love you' and 'i thought you'd died and that's why grandma was here' (that was one morning my mum came round before she woke up). Confusingly enough, her school haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary with her so I obviously didn't mention anything - not wanting to draw attention to her! Although they did say she'd recently become aggressive with other children when in conlicts. Please help me if any of
you know what could be up with my little girl. Is this just an anxiety faze or is she getting OCD like Mama?? :-(
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My 6 year old daughter started doing this too just about two weeks ago.. She started acting terrified of everything, dirt, dust, weird things and she would wash her hands constantly, she would freak out if one of my boys touched her with "Their dirty hands" Now she started saying her brain says bad evil things to her .. The other night my daughter told me that her brain told her to kill me and she was crying when she said it.. She said but mom you know I never would I love you so much.. I am so scared what is happening to my baby girl!!
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My 6 year old daughter is doing the same exact thing that you posted. I am very worried. I know this is a couple years old so I am wondering if it got any better?  I am so worried that something is wrong with her psychologically. Thanks
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My son is doing the same thing..I am wondering if this got resolved, and if so, what helped?
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