Help! My 8-year-old daughter talks to Satan.

[mommymoodyof5]

I don't believe my stepdaughter is talking to Lucifer.This is just the latest and greatest in a LONG line of attention getters.When we married 2 yrs ago we ea had full custody of 2 children & later came the baby.While our 8 yr old has had issues with lying,stealing,hiding things,making up stories & extreme behavior,this was off/on & now we are on day 26 of her current tantrum(EVERY day getting up & peeing/pooping in her clothes & hiding them various places in her room,saying she's "making deals" w/the devil,telling her teacher her dad beats her even though he is out of town & other kids I choke her & her brothers hurt her,etc.Last month,EVERY CHILD was told REPEATEDLY they were not to wear Halloween costumes to school.Yet because they didn't send home letters to the parents & left it to the kids to relay the msg she wore 1 anyway. Out of 300+ kids she was the ONLY 1 wearing a costume.When confronted by her teacher she lied & said she told me but I made her wear it anyway.Things are out of control.Even my disabled son had to go live w/his dad for his own protection because she was intentionally hurting him.Now that he is not here,our 16mo old little girl has become her target.We have her in counseling(he's run out of ideas& as far as disipline,you name it,we've tried it & NOTHING works.She was even held back in 1st grade because of behavioral issues.It has gotten to the point where none of us dare be alone w/her & our 16mo old is scared of her.No one seems to know what to do being that she's ONLY 8.Any advice or help would be valued.We don't know what to do or where to turn

[jazzyben]

My daughter will be 8 soon and I have had many problems and still do. They are not as bad and they change all the time. Right now it's fibbing about everything. She tends to hit off and on. I have been separated since she was 2.5. Her dad is a piece of work. He drank with his buddies 6-7 days a week- would sleep all day and not work. However, he is sooo much fun to play with and at the end of the day that's what matters when you are little. She spent many years blaming me because her dad said that we would be happy if only mommy hadn't made him leave blah blah. she has seen a lot over the past couple of years and is learning for herself. I have had to suck it up an awful lot so as not to stoop to his level. A lot of her anger is gone and I think that it will only get better as she gets older. She does have low confidence still and we are working on it with a counsellor now. She is smart and beautiful but her brother is so funny- he is 5 and he has an amazing sense of humour- she not so much. She thinks everyone likes him more than her. Anyways, I believe the trick is not to ever play the games. Don't give in to guilt. This is your reality and this is the way it is and I love you but you have to follow rules and respect me and everyone else around you or there will be consequences. I am engaged and they really love him but he is a lot firmer than I am and I have learned a lot from him because of it. You want her to eventually enjoy and want family time so don't use it as punishment but cut out the extras- going to friends, video games, tv,- if she hits with a bear for example she loses the bear. I made my daughter sit down for an hour and a half and write down why she should treat people with respect and how she would like to be treated. Then I made her write down what makes her sad or angry and what makes her feel good. We then spent a lot of time on the positive things and just the time helping her with it really worked. They learn to react the way you do. If you stay calm they learn that but if you get frustrated and freak out then they will too. I have no idea if this will help but it feels good to write it down for me :-) good luck

[Mamaofboys]

Your daughter sounds a lot like my sister. She is now 35 years old. She did not get better only worse with age. She also talked with satan. She also would hurt people. She is now a drug addicted and has 4 children of her own that she has done terrible terrible things to. My step-mother took her for help and was told that she was a sociopath and that there is nothing that anyone could do. Everyone is afraid of her. She gets away with things that no one else would. Example: She beat a tourist to the point of putting the woman in the hospital to steel her purse and she got probation. Her arrest record is 8 pages long. It does not say, if ya'll go to church. But I highly recommend that you go to church. You take ALL your children to church. This is not over Daddy having someone new in his life. This little girl has some major problems. You don't say what happen to the birth mother. Was she a teenager? Was she on drugs? Did she have a drinking problem? Did something horrible happen to her in front of the child? Daddy getting remarried along with what ever else happen to her previous is just a part of what is going on with her. My sister did things so very much like what you have described. You don't want to wait for her to become a teenager or an adult because it won't go away. You need help from Dad. He needs to get involved with finding a doctor to help and go to church and have others help pray for you. We missed out on my sister but we are watching the same thing happen to one of my nieces and my newphew. You can see the change come over them and it is very scary. Sometimes they can be so loving and so sweet and then it is gone and the hitting, breaking of things and biting and screaming it fills the house. There 4 of sisters. Three of us are convinced that she sold her soul. We were not raised in the church but because of her, we have all found God and now that He can saved the little ones before it is to late. When we can get the kids from their dad's we take them to church and we pray over them. My sister thinks we are "Jesus Lovers" and "Holy Rollers". You may think so too, but if you have tried everything else then what do you have to lose? You have to ask yourself, "where does an 8 year old get the idea of telling her parents that she is talking to the devil?" I will pray for you and your family and your daughter.

[billyandsarah99]

I do not agree with that. She needs to learn that not only is daddy the boss but so it the stepmom. Maybe have daddy talk to her and let her know that daddy and mommy is never going to get back togther, if he is with the stepmom or not, they will never get back togther and what the stepmom says goes just like it would with daddy. The stepmom is more than just "a babysitter laying down daddys rules". I do agree that this does seem to be a game to her, to see what buttons she can push. But she needs to be taught not only to listen to daddy, but you and other adults aswell. That she is only a kid. Maybe you could find something that she really likes, like clothes for example, take everything away from her except so many outfits and make her earn them back one by one. If she is bad you take one back. If not clothes then something else. Do not use "family time" as a punishment for her. Why should she be taught that spending time with the family is punshiment? She needs to be taught that you are the boss and you won't back down to her. Maybe even next time she is out of control call the cops and have an officer come over and scare the hell out of her. One of my friends has a son that was out of control and thats what she done to him. He has been good as gold since. Good luck you will need it, it'll be a long road I am sure, but it will be worth it in the long run.

[star queen]

Jealosy is a terrible thing.  Your daughter was Daddy's Girl until you came along.  She didn't like giving up that place in Daddy's heart and really wants that back. You and the baby and other kids took that from her and she doesn't like that one little bit. She is doing whatever she can to break you all up so she can resume being Daddy's Girl again. She is getting more outrageous because the "little" stuff didn't work.  Her life experiences are limited due to age, so she is doing whatever she sees on TV or in books, etc. to "get at" you. She is confident that Daddy won't "get rid" of her, so she is comfortable doing what she is doing. She knows that Daddy won't get rid of you, but that you need to leave on your own so she is targeting you or those you are close to (your son).  You must go for her to again become Daddy's girl.  She  trys something and if it doesn't work, she trys doing something worse to see if that works; and so it goes. Now it has become a game to her and she feels that she is winning.  Remember: "the one on the defensive loses".  Who is on the defensive here?  You are. You are not "in control" here.  She might mind you if it suits her purpose, but she will never be under your control.  Daddy needs to become involved with his daughter and lay down rules that apply to her and explain that you are there to make sure that HIS RULES are upheld. DADDY IS IN CHARGE, you are just there to make it happen, like a babysitter. He needs to be the one to punish her, not you.  Tell her things like; your father said...Your father wants you to.... talk to Daddy about a schedule, sleepovers, sports, etc.  Let him rule her.  If she doesn't like things, then she needs to talk to Daddy.  She want's to be Daddy's girl...let her be Daddy's girl.  If she wants something now, too bad.  You need to wait and ask Daddy.  Daddy didn't leave permission, so you can't do whatever until you talk to Daddy.  Let her see how that works for her. The ABSOLUTE MUST DO in all cases is to be CHEERFUL.  She wants you to be miserable, so don't let that show.  The more cheerful you are, the less power she has over you.  If she tantrums, laugh at her and tell her she "looks silly", then leave the room and let her be alone. Take you attention away from her.  The WORSE punishment you can give her is not to send her to her room, but make her spend time with the family.  She HATES spending time with the family, so make her do just that.  If she does a poor bahavior, then she must spend 1 hour in the livingroom with the family doing something. If it is watching tv, she has no opinion about what you watch, so put on a video you know she won't like. It is punishment after all. If she is nasty or gives you problems, then the time is increased.  Going to her room becomes a treat.  While she is with the family, you are cheerful and laugh even if it kills you.  You will see a change in her pretty soon.  But Daddy must eek out the "family punishment".   Good luck, you will need it.

[anxiousmomtobe?]

Where is her biological mom in all this?  Why is this child so disturbed?  This is certainly outside the realm of normal behavior.  Has she been evaluated for any medical issues.


good luck to you