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WORRIED ABOUT 4 YEAR OLD SON

MY CHILD IS 4 DOESNT EAT ONLY DRINKS MILKHE WONT PLAY WITH OTHER KIDS FOR LONG ONLY BY HIMSELF HE WAS 6 WEEKS EARLY AND 5LB OF WIGHET HE ALWAYS HAD CHEST INFECTIONS AS A BABY NOW HE JUST DOESNT SEEM NORMALLY I HAVE 3 OTHER KIDS AND ARE ALL FINE HE NEED TO HAVE HIS HAT A CERTIN WAY AND HIS SHOES AND HIS TRACKYS OR HE SCREAMS DOESNT LIKE NEW SHOES OR NEW CLOTHES OR NEW PRAM IV TRY EVERYTHING HE STILL IN NAPPIES HE WONT GO NEAR THE TOLIET ALL HE EATS IS NOODOLES AND YOUGHRT WONT DRINK JUICE OR WONT EAT SWEETS HE LIKES TO TURN HIS BIKE UP SIDE DOWN AND WATCH HIS WHEEL GO ROUND HE LIKE TO SIT BY HIMSELF AND WATCH TV HE DOESNT LIKE ANY ONE TO TOUCH HIM IV REALLY TRY EVRYTHING HE TAKES UP ALL OF MY TIME SO I DONT HAVE THAT MUCH TIME FOR THE OTHER KIDS HIS SPEACH IS REALLY BAD FOR A 4 YEAR OLD HE DOESNT LIKE TO BE DIRTY IF A BIT OF FLUF GET ON HIM HE SCREAMS DOES HE HAVE AURTISM PLEASE HELP
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I am very pleased to hear that they are now referring your son, and they will speak top the nursery. Thats very good to hear. Please let me know the results when you meet the doc's. Good luck thanks
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hi every one just to let u no that my son hs been refered to a peditrication in the next four weeks the doctor i seen was a new doctor and once i expliand to him the way jordan was he to the full 2 seconds to decide to send him to get checked so i want to thank every one that help me and the health vistor is going to have a with his nusery cause she said he not ready to come out of nappies now he has a disorder called something that make him slow he doesnt pick things up like othe kids do it called delayed learing so hope fully some one can help him now thanks again sam and family
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You will get through this, i know it seems hard at the moment but it will get easier as time goes on. With the toilet situation, i would try and introduce the toilet to him slowly, as you don't wont to make him have a fear of the toilet.(toilet times should be a happy time) Yes you are right to only do it when you are at home and have the time to spend with him while on the toilet. (I know this will be hard because of the other children needing your time aswell)
Let me know if you need any more info on anything whats so ever.
Dont forget you have always been there for you son and you may not think you are helping him but you always are. stay postive and keep your chin up
Please let me know the outcome from the clinic
gem
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thank you so much for every thing you have done i mean u have done more than my doctors i will take him to the baby clinc on monday afternoon and ask them to refer him even if it comes back that he doesnt have it it will just mean the must be a way to get him to do things im trying to get him to go to the toliet but only when im in the house cause the other kids want to go out so i have to put a nappie on him i feel really bad cause i cant help him but i will let u no wat my doctors thanks again for all your help
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Sam, I feel that the nursery your son attended/attends has very little understanding about your childs individual needs.
It is a big shock to me to hear that his teacher (a professional) is "saying he is used to havin a portable toliet so he wont go to the toliet. So he needs to come of nappies or he cant go back to nusery". I work in a special needs school with children from the age of 3 to 12 children who are on the autistic spectrum. The majority of the children start in nappies, and about 3/4's of them leave not wearing nappies. It can be a hard and sometimes a long process but its very rewarding in the end. But it shouldnt be all left down to you as a parent. It should be a two way thing between you you and your childs nursery.(But sorry to say the nursery doesnt sound very understanding about your childs needs)
Please try and find out if your childs nursery has a special educational needs coordinator (SENCO) they will know about the assessment (also known as a 'statutory assessment') and thay and yourself can ask for an assessment to carried out.
Sam just to let you know, i know it can be very upsetting to think all your child is eatting is noodles.This is very common in autistic children. They can be labelled as fuzzy or pickie eaters. In my school i have a child who will only eat Mc donald's hamburgers, so at school he wont eat anything and when he gets home he goes to Mc Ds. Also one child doesnt drink and only eats noodles/bread only( this child is closely watched at school and has been referred to school dietian and speech therapist. But then i have many children who ate things such as above and now they are eatting more varieties of foods. This outcome was achieved by lots of hard work from the staff and information from the school dietian, speech therapist parents input.
I am aware that i have given you quite alot of information which may be quite
overwhelming or very useful. I am not quite sure so please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns.
Thinking of you at this hard time
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As i said before i work in a special needs school with children who are on the autictic spectrum. I found this information on http://www.nas.org.uk i think it will be very useful to you and your family. Please also have a look at :http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/Schools/SpecialEducationalNeeds/DG_4000835 this gives you information on how to apply for an assessment.
I hope this isn't too much info, if you don't understand anything please just ask and i will try my best to explain it to the best of knowledge.

This is a copy from one of the pages:
"I think my child has an autistic spectrum disorder. How do I go about getting them diagnosed?
Autistic spectrum disorders can normally be diagnosed at around the age of two years. In many instances professional workers may spot the tell-tale signs of autism via the normal childhood health checks and this will eventually result in them being formally diagnosed.
If this does not happen and you feel that there is a possibility that your child has an autistic spectrum disorder you should go to your GP and request that they refer them to a consultant or diagnostic team with a good understanding of the condition.

I have been to my GP but they refuse to refer my child on.
Due perhaps either to financial constraints or lack of knowledge about autistic spectrum disorders some GPs are unwilling to refer people on. Unfortunately you have few legal rights in this situation. Under the Patients Charter you can request to see a consultant of your choice or seek a second opinion if you are dissatisfied with the first, but only with the agreement of your GP. However, being assertive and persistent can help. You might also find the following tips useful;
Prepare notes on what you want to say to your GP prior to your appointment
Keep a diary to record any unusual behaviours exhibited by your child and their frequency
Supply your GP with some NAS information on autism or encourage them to contact our Information Centre (tel: 0845 070 4004, email: ***@****) if they have any specific questions on the condition
If part of a group practice, ask to see one of the other doctors
Is there a particular kind of doctor that my child needs to see?
There are a number of different doctors and health professionals who may be involved in diagnosing the condition. Most frequently though these would be psychiatrists, clinical psychologists and, in the case of children, paediatricians. In some areas there may be multi-disciplinary teams (i.e. made up of a number of different health professionals) involved in diagnosing autism. It is important to ensure that whoever sees your child has a good knowledge of autistic spectrum disorders.

My GP is willing to refer my child on for a diagnostic assessment but does not know of any people with the relevant expertise.
The Autism Helpline has a list of doctors and diagnostic teams who have an interest in autistic spectrum disorders and may, therefore, be able to supply you with the name of an appropriately experienced person. We must stress however, that this list does not offer comprehensive coverage across the country i.e. some areas are better served than others, and we cannot guarantee the service offered by individual doctors or diagnostic teams.

I have heard about The National Autistic Society's own diagnostic service, The Centre for Social and Communication Disorders. Would this be the best place to take my child to be diagnosed?

The Centre for Social and Communication Disorders aims to be a centre of expertise and excellence in the field of autism and would be a very appropriate place for someone to go to find out if their child has an autistic spectrum disorder. However, it is not the only option as there are a growing number of health professionals with an interest in the condition and it is therefore quite possible that there may be someone relatively local to you who could make a diagnosis. If you do see someone local there is the extra benefit that they may be able to advise you on sources of help in the vicinity and possibly offer some kind of follow up service.

Does everybody with an autistic spectrum disorder need to be diagnosed?
In the experience of the Autism Helpline very many people with autistic spectrum disorders and their families benefit from having an official diagnosis of their condition. Having an explanation for the problems that the person has been experiencing, possibly for many years, can bring a sense of relief both for the parent, and sometimes for the person themselves, particularly in the case of those at the more able end of the spectrum. It also provides them with the ammunition to argue for the most appropriate services.

There are some occasions where people would prefer not to have a formal diagnosis. Sometimes this is because a parent feels that their child will be able to make greatest progress if they do not think of themselves as having a disability. We also know of adults who suspect that they be mildly autistic but would prefer not to be formally diagnosed. For such people, knowing what is the possible cause of their problems seems to be enough.

If you require further information please contact the NAS Autism Helpline
Tel: 0845 070 4004
Email: ***@****
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Where do you live? Is he at nursery or pre-school? If he is in school etc, Here in London your child's teacher or special educational needs coordinator (SENCO) can refer him for an assessment. If you let me know where you live i can find out some info on how to get him an assessment.
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If my child was going through this and my doctor told me she was just lazy............................................................................. that wouldn't fly w/ me.  There would be some issues w/ me and the doctor.

Suggestion:  Google; autism, asperges; you'd be amazed what you would find and how many doctors are out there to help you.

I know what you're going through has to be hard and frustrating.  Don't give up on him though... we can't expect that when we have children they are all going to be perfect.  Every child has there own behavior & personality.  Some are better than others.  He needs you right now, but so do your other children.  Don't forget about them while you're dealing w/ him.  They all need mommy and daddy time.

Be patient... help will come if you find it.  Not only will it make your life more simple but his and your other kids also.

Best of luck - Find strength in your heart to get him the help he needs.
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What is a nappie?  

I know you keep stating that you've called your doctor for help and they're all booked-up. BUT I am assuming you haven't called around to find another doctor who is willing to help.  

This sounds like a very serious problem - get help now!  Either call around to doctors out of the phone book, get on the internet and do some searching, call the hospital and ask for help - they have support help and can direct you to someone.  You can also call a psychiatrist - they can help or direct you to someone who can help.

You've got to get help for this little guy. He sounds like he's struggling and you sound like you're also struggling.

You need to get tough w/ your doctor and say find a spot & a time for me to come in this week.  NO IF's, AND's or BUT'S about it!  You and your son are having to deal with this.  You need to grow some balls and don't take no for an answer.

His situation could become life-threating if you don't get him help.
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thanks to every one that answered we live in liverpool  iv tryed to get  to c the doctor but they say thier so busy we cant get an appotment  i need something to get him of nappies he was in nusery and they would change him now the teacher who is biatch is saying he to used to havin a portable toliet so he wont go to the toliet needs to come of nappies or he cant go back to nusery still not eating any food he seems to choke on every thing he has i need to chew his food for him all he eats is noodoles i cant get him to drink any juice so his blood is low he has to have vitiams to build him up so i dont no were eles to get help my oldest daughter is 16 and she is fine my  other daughter is  13 and she has exzama my other son is 6 but even he wont let any of them do any thing for him iv got to do every thing for him he does somethings for himself but not much please help he wakes up 3-4 times a night for drink i need to change his nappie 3 times throw the night open to all suggestions
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gem u said if i was worried my doctors are not the same as other doctors were eles can i go to to get jordan checked thanks
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Take your children to someone who deals with homeopathic/naturopathic remedies and also deals with kids with autism. Or at least a developmental specialist
The only thing regular pediatricans are good for are giving shots (cause they are reimbursed for these of course) and boo boos.
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thanks to everyone that answered me it been a long 4 year with jordan that his name iv ask the doctors to look at him and they say he just lazy but i no my son i no thier something wrong i will go back to my doctors and ask them to check for aurtism thank you.     another thing my 13 year old daughter has bad exzama on her face and iv try everything to get rid of it she driving me mad any one no of anything that she can use thank you
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I work with children who are on the autictic spectrum. Your sons behaviours  show many signs & symptoms that would indicate a diagnosis on the autistic spectrum. Early intervention from your GP or health visitor would beneft him very much as they can offer speech therapy, occupational therapy etc... If you would like anymore advice please let me know.
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i agree with jdtm. your son shows many symptoms that would indicate a diagnosis on the autistic spectrum. speech therapy, occupational therapy, etc... would probably really benefit him and you need to get started on finding him the help he needs asap.
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Your son's behaviours remind me of our neighbour's child.  This child was diagnosed with Asperger's which is on the autism spectrum. Of course, this might not be the case for your son.  I would suggest you seek the advice of your family doctor or pediatrician.  I do know that in our neighbour's case, early intervention really helped with his social and cognitive development.
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