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541657 tn?1239208930

Alternative Therapies for Immuno support

Hi all,
Some of you may know that I am interested in alternative and immune system supportive therapies for ovarian cancer.  Yesterday I had a very interesting conversation with a doctor from the Oasis of Hope clinic in Mexico.  They use extensive immune support therapies along with chemo to treat ovarian cancer.  Some of these include vitamin C therapy, oxygen therapy, possibly hydrogen peroxide therapy along with a vegan diet, psychological support, etc to heal the 'whole' patient.  In the US, many of these therapies are seen an 'crazy', but I see them as necessary to heal me.  I am interested in hearing from those of you outside the US and if you have had experience with any alternative therapies and how did they work for you?
Thanks for any and all (good or bad) info you can give me.
Maggie
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282804 tn?1236833591
The best way is to get a machine that creates it's own ozone and ionize your own water.  You have to wait about 15 secs before you drink it or you have to drink it without smelling it or you can burn the delicate membranes of your nose.  They also have a bag that you pull up around your neck and than you wrap a towel around that so none escapes. Then you put the tubes from the ozone thingy into the bag.  It is supposed to go in through your skin and kill cancer cells that way. I figure anything that is legal in Tn (they tried to get a constitutional ban on accupuncture) must be okay.  It is only approved for sickle cell anemia here and it CURES that.
My friend Betty just bought the generator and the little machine that creates the ozone.  She just left it here yesterday while she visits her son in CA. and I am definitely going to use it.  The Dr was a friend of hers and he says it is good for just feeling well overall.  Heck, I'll try it.  The water was clear and tasteless for the most part.  The ear treatment tickled and I am going to try the bag thingy tomorrow.  Anything that is safe in every other country and 14 states has to be okay.  Can't wait to try it.  I wonder if I can get my chemo nurse to flush my port with ionized water?  They say a direst infusion is the best way to get it.  Oh, don't fall for those expensive bottles of water that say they are ionized.  They are/were, but you have to drink the water right away.  You can't make it than let it sit for 30 minutes.  The bottled stuff is long past being effective by time they put the caps on.
DO NOT DO THE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE TREATMENT YOURSELF.  IT IS MORE INVOLVED THAT JUST BUYING FOOD GRADE PEROXIDE.  IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT GO TO A HOMEOPATHIC DOCTOR THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING.


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I have to admit that I did not have any faith in the Hydrogen Peroxide as a cancer alt/compl. treatment before,   because somebody  from my distant family  was using the wrong stuff and had no effect on cancer at all  but  had negative effect on overall health.. Now I know more about it and here it is:
H2 O2 facts copied  from the website cancertutor (dot) com.
How It Works:
It has been clinically demonstrated that the spread or metastatis of cancer is directly proportional to the amount of oxygen around the cancer cells. The more oxygen, the slower the cancer spreads. The less oxygen, the faster the cancer spreads. If cancer cells get enough oxygen, they will die (cancer cells are anaerobic). Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) provides extra oxygen atoms that not only slow down the spread of cancer, but also kills cancer cells.


Hydrogen Peroxide

"Nobel prize winner      Dr. O t t o  W a r b u r g demonstrated over 50 years ago the basic difference between normal cells and cancer cells. Both derive energy from glucose, but the normal cell requires oxygen to combine with the glucose, while cancer cells break down glucose without oxygen, yielding only 1/15 the energy per glucose molecule that a normal cell produces. This is why cancer cells have such a huge appetite for sugar, and also why people who consume excessive quantities of sugar tend to get cancer more often."
Controlling cancer can be done by controlling the oxygen and/or controlling the things that free up oxygen (e.g. ionized water) and other ways. Hydrogen peroxide, or other oxygen therapies, are one of the most widely used cancer therapies world-wide because they provide oxygen to the cancer cells. They are safe and effective. H2O2 is also used for a host of other ailments, including AIDS and any other virus based illness.

{{{{I want to emphasize very strongly that you should not use any type of hydrogen peroxide unless it is "Food Grade". The junk you buy at grocery stores and most health food stores has toxic chemicals added to it and is for EXTERNAL USE ONLY. Cancer treatments should not involve this stuff under ANY circumstances. }}}}}}
sunes

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282804 tn?1236833591
The hydrogen peroxide treatments (ozone treatments) are supposed to be very good for the immune system.  It is given in various forms; through the ear into the delicate membrane, into the colon where it passes through the tissue and into the surrounding blood vessels which than carries it throughout your body, injections, drinking it and bathing in the oxigenated water.  It is only legal here in Tn as a cure for sickle cell anemia.  However, most other countries and 14 states do recognize it's potential and have approved it's use in spite of the FDA backing off from it. Kimchi, you hit the nail on the head with the oxygen thing.  Cancer cells do not do well with an abundunce of oxygen and the ozone treatments are designed to not only kill, but literally burn up the cancer cells.
jan
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180749 tn?1443595232
The timing and duration of the pranayam (breathing exercises) is important to make your immune system strong to fight any disease.For kapalbhati and anulom vilom  a minimum of 10 to 15 minutes continuous breathing is essential to feel the benefits. For cancer, doing both of these pranayams for 30 minutes each, twice a day, is considered  as natural alternative for chemo, and with no side effects.
Do it and reap the benefits.
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16702 tn?1234090645
I too am very interested in alternatives...Many years ago I took a course called "Art of Living" which teaches a form of breathing.  Last year I bought a CD on pranaya breathing and have been doing them whenever I find myself with free time (on the bus, in a coffee shop, watching tv). hava, you have explained it very well and I hope others will try it out.  I took (during chemo for stage 4 OC) and still take 4000mg of vitamin C and Reishi mushrooms to keep my immune system strong.  Recently I have added visulization with my breathing, watching the oxygen flush out the bad cells and enhance healthy cells.
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180749 tn?1443595232
The following will boost the immune system and help you fight.
You need to help your body to build up your immune system.The breathing exercises - pranayam is a holistic approach creating extra oxygen supply in the body and will slowly help with the health problem.Do the pranayam to see the benefits.If you feel tired or dizzy stop, and resume after 1 minute.Build up your timing slowly and after two weeks at the suggested duration you will start to notice benefits.

Bhastrika - Take a long deep breath into the lungs(chest not tummy) via the nose and then completely breathe out through the nose.Duration upto 5 minutes.

Kapalbhati -(Do it before eating) Push air forcefully out through the nose about once per second. Stomach will itself go in(contract in). The breathing in(through the nose) will happen automatically. Establish a rhythm and do for upto 30 minutes twice a day.(Max 60 min/day) Not for pregnant women. Seriously ill people do it gently.

Anulom Vilom - Close your right nostril with thumb and deep breath-in through left nostril  
then – close left nostril with two fingers and breath-out through right nostril  
then -keeping the left nostril closed  deep breath-in through right nostril
then - close your right nostril with thumb and breath-out through left nostril.
This is one cycle of anulom vilom.
Repeat this cycle for 15 to 30  minutes twice a day(maximum 60 minutes in one day).
You can do this before breakfast/lunch/dinner or before bedtime or in bed.Remember to take deep long breaths into the lungs.You can do this while sitting on floor or chair or lying in bed.


Bhramri Pranayam -Close eyes. Close ears with thumb, index finger on forehead, and rest three fingers on base of nose touching eyes. Breathe in through nose. And now breathe out through nose while humming like a bee.
Duration : 5 to 10 times
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Only by doing you will benefit and will feel good that you can do something to help the body.Copy and print this to master the technique.This is  simplified pranayam for everyone and you do not have to go to classes to learn. This is for life unlike short term classes where you do it in the class then stop when classes are over.  
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535822 tn?1443976780
I do not have a challenging health problem other than Chronic Urticaria but I can testify to the visualisation techniques I have used them for sleeplessness and anxiety in the past. and still do so if a problem comes up.Good luck to you
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I use Vit C therapy , Maitake D-Fraction and Helixor plus I am taking a lot of supplements. I also believe in visualization techniques.Never could afford Sanoviv centre but was urgently advised to do so  almost 3 years ago. Now I am on Carboplatin every 28 days...single agent and  doing wonderful.Vit C helps my immune system and I feel that is helping a lot keeping cancer regressing.
Hope this helps,Sunes.
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541657 tn?1239208930
I posted this question on ovarian cancer forum a few days ago.  I would appreciate any info that anyone can give regarding this center.
Thanks,
Maggie
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