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Living beyond your means

http://pint.newsvine.com/_news/2010/11/16/5475336-living-beyond-your-means#c19445421


11/16/10

I was reading this and thought WOW! Who has not done this at one time or another in their lives! I thought it would be fun to share our opinions and own experiences on this.



Happy Tuesday viners! Today I want to talk about living beyond your means. basically buying thing you really cant afford. But then complain that you dont have any money. I see this everyday, I work in finance and deal with people on a daily basis. There are occasions where I sit down with somebody who is about to buy something. And when I look at their income and what they are financing from me, I ask them " are you sure you want to buy this particular thing"? Of course the answer is yes. So after all is said and done, contract signed they go about the business. Then about 5-6 months later, payments are behind or not at all. and the next thing you know I have to repo. Of course I do not want to but this is a business and I have a job to do as well. So then I see people with the cars with the 26 inch rims and the loud systems and the tinted windows etc... But turn around and they are behind in the electric bill or water bill etc... So I ask, why is it that if you know you cant afford something do you still purchase it, even if it will put you behind on household expenses? I use the word "you" as a general statement... Or if you have examples of this please share..

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655727 tn?1283299648
I have never lived beyond my means. I was taught at an early age to make sure I could pay for what I buy. Your house payment or rent should be no more than 1/4 your net income a month. While my parents always paid cash for a car I do get loans but make sure I can sell them for more than I owe and the payments and insurance still allow me to put back a few dollars a month for rainy days.

Does this mean I don't by things that are not needed? NO way, I do on occasion by that extra pair of shoes or something fun because I want to, but when the credit card bill comes at the end of the month I make sure I have the money to cover it.

I will never have a house you’ll see on “Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous” but I sleep well at night.
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Thru the years I have picked up little habits that help. I never spend change. If I use my debit card to pay for something, it is rounded to the next dollar and the difference goes into a savings account. When spending cash I do the same thing, I never use my change but instead the coinage I get goes into my change machine and is rolled. I use this money for my once a year vacation.

Another tip I learned is that dollar stores have things for a third of the price that you would get elsewhere. Instead of paying 3.12 for a bottle of Mr. Clean, I spend 89 cents for Ammonia instead.

When buying a big ticket item like a car, I never get the real expensive but look for comfort and gas mileage. Now days they make cars better so they last years longer than they ever did before. I may not have the built in gps but it is paid for and runs great!

I think where many young people fall into the trap is the false thinking that just because you can finance something, doesnt mean you can afford it. Yes you might get it financed but at what cost?

I have also known many many people who do not understand how a credit card works or even how they figure the interest you pay on them. I blame the schools for not teaching the basics about this stuff, and the parents are to blame as well.

Now days it seems that my kids think they should have the very same things that I have. The difference is when I was their age I didnt have it and now they are learning why.

When young I made my share of money mistakes, mostly out of ignorance. You might think you can afford something until you lose your job or some other unforseen thing happens. I say if you dont have the cash to pay for it and still pay your bills, then you cannot afford it.

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When I was maybe 28 years old my Father saw a watch I had purchased.
He asked me how I could afford it.
I told him that I paid cash for it.
He replied: "I didn't ask you how you paid for it - I asked you how you could afford it".
There is a huge difference between the two.

Mike
1032715 tn?1315987834
We have always only bought what we can afford,our first house was a 2 bedroom 50 year old cottage in disrepair,I wanted to be a stay at home mum so this was it,eventually we moved to a 30 year old 3 bedroom house,now we are in a 25 year old
3 bedroom house with a fully self contained granny flat underneath,
We worked our way up slowly,and we now own our house.
When we bought the third house we were told we could borrow $750,000,I just laughed and said are you going to make the repayments,
973741 tn?1342346373
I married a squirrel.  My husband would gnaw off his right arm before living above his means.  He wouldn't be able to sleep at night with the anxiety it would cause.  You should see the jalopy he drives!  My husband has a fairly prestigious job---------  all of his friends make fun of him about his wreck of a car.  Now me, I could get myself in trouble.  I never have, mind you, but I  know myself and the red flag of shopping temptation that can overcome me.  

I am always surprised when neighbors tell me things.  My next door neighbor just redid her kitchen.  A big remodel.  She tells me how much it cost and that she financed the whole thing------- like 40 grand and will make minimum payments.  She then told me they are borrowing money from their parents to pay for their kids private schools.  She then told me they have to do that because the bank won't give them any more money because they have so much debt.  ( . . .but they do have a really nice kitchen . . .)  My other neighbor told me that they almost had their gas/electric turned off for nonpayment and she ordered on line 80 dollar boots (about 10 sentences apart).  

Personally, I'm still waiting to win the lottery.  
184674 tn?1360864093
I have always been careful to try to do everything to live beneath my means, lol. Like specialmom's husband, I am a squirrel if I'm able.
Then...
I got married, lol.
I don't share this much publically...but my husband can spend money like there's no tomorrow. It's been the *one thing* about him that has driven me insane over the last year, and let's just say that a couple of months ago, the whole issue came to a head. Since then, he and I have had many talks about how money has to be spent, needs to be spent, when he's the one spending it. He's admitted that he's realizing that living by his "philosophy" of "work hard, play hard" is one of the stupidest habits he's gotten himself into over the years. In any and every job he's ever had, he's never saved anything significant--nothing that can last more than 3-4 weeks at a time, anyway.
Now he and I are at a point where we are looking for all the possible ways to cut corners in our budget, which I think is a whole new harsh reality for him. And to top it off, things are at a point where...unfortunately...I have to monitor all the spending he does and he needs to let me know what he plans to spend and when at any given time. Just today, I made him a bi-weekly budget for reference, because apparently, verbal agreements are not working too well. Hopefully things can improve soon, as he does know his habits need to change immediately--we have two children to support, my salary barely supports a family of four, and he's only employed six months out of the year because he's a college co-op.
The thing is, I've showed him we still have the ability to save if we are careful to budget what we spend. It's getting to this point that has been the challenge--for him, in self control, and for me, in dealing with anxiety and frustration.
I guess the point I'm making is that I think a lot of people who live beyond their means have this type of mindset. That money is for today. You worked for it, you can spend it because it's your money, and initially, you don't intend for it to affect anyone else. Then when it does, it's become a habit that, like any other addiction or lifestyle, then becomes extremely hard to break. Debt begins to build, but it's still hard to stop the impulses. I think those people who do live beyond their means need just as much counseling or assistence or whatever term you want to give it to break the habit of spending.
Just my thoughts, after experiencing being in a marriage with a spender.
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