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163305 tn?1333668571

The Return of Jim Crow

Election officials in 27 states, most of them Republicans, have launched a program that threatens a massive purge of voters from the rolls. Millions, especially black, Hispanic and Asian-American voters, are at risk. Already, tens of thousands have been removed in at least one battleground state, and the numbers are expected to climb, according to a six-month-long, nationwide investigation by Al Jazeera America.

At the heart of this voter-roll scrub is the Interstate Crosscheck program, which has generated a master list of nearly 7 million names. Officials say that these names represent legions of fraudsters who are not only registered but have actually voted in two or more states in the same election — a felony punishable by 2 to 10 years in prison.

Until now, state elections officials have refused to turn over their Crosscheck lists, some on grounds that these voters are subject to criminal investigation. Now, for the first time, three states — Georgia, Virginia and Washington — have released their lists to Al Jazeera America, providing a total of just over 2 million names.

The Crosscheck list of suspected double voters has been compiled by matching names from roughly 110 million voter records from participating states. Interstate Crosscheck is the pet project of Kansas’ controversial Republican secretary of state, Kris Kobach, known for his crusade against voter fraud.

The three states’ lists are heavily weighted with names such as Jackson, Garcia, Patel and Kim — ones common among minorities, who vote overwhelmingly Democratic. Indeed, fully 1 in 7 African-Americans in those 27 states, plus the state of Washington (which enrolled in Crosscheck but has decided not to utilize the results), are listed as under suspicion of having voted twice. This also applies to 1 in 8 Asian-Americans and 1 in 8 Hispanic voters. White voters too — 1 in 11 — are at risk of having their names scrubbed from the voter rolls, though not as vulnerable as minorities.

If even a fraction of those names are blocked from voting or purged from voter rolls, it could alter the outcome of next week’s electoral battle for control of the U.S. Senate — and perhaps prove decisive in the 2016 presidential vote count.

“It’s Jim Crow all over again,” says the Rev. Joseph Lowery, who cofounded the Southern Christian Leadership Conference with Martin Luther King, Jr. Lowery, now 93, says he recognizes in the list of threatened voters a sophisticated new form of an old and tired tactic. “I think [the Republicans] would use anything they can find. Their desperation is rising.”


The Interstate Crosscheck list, as viewed on a mobile device, left. Parishioners at the historically black Ebenezer Baptist Church register to vote, right. (Click to enlarge images)

Though Kobach declined to be interviewed, Roger Bonds, the chairman of the Republican Party in Georgia’s Fulton County, responds, “This is how we have successfully prevented voter fraud.”

Based on the Crosscheck lists, officials have begun the process of removing names from the rolls — beginning with 41,637 in Virginia alone. Yet the criteria used for matching these double voters are disturbingly inadequate.
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Millions of mismatches

There are 6,951,484 names on the target list of the 28 states in the Crosscheck group; each of them represents a suspected double voter whose registration has now become subject to challenge and removal. According to a 2013 presentation by Kobach to the National Association of State Election Directors, the program is a highly sophisticated voter-fraud-detection system. The sample matches he showed his audience included the following criteria: first, last and middle name or initial; date of birth; suffixes; and Social Security number, or at least its last four digits.

According to this presentation by Crosscheck's Kris Kobach, the program would match possible double voters on multiple points: first, middle and last name; date of birth and the last four digits of Social Security numbers.

That was the sales pitch. But the actual lists show that not only are middle names commonly mismatched and suffix discrepancies ignored, even birthdates don’t seem to have been taken into account. Moreover, Crosscheck deliberately ignores Social Security mismatches, in the few instances when the numbers are even collected. The Crosscheck instructions for county election officers state, “Social Security numbers are included for verification; the numbers might or might not match.”

In practice, all it takes to become a suspect is sharing a first and last name with a voter in another state. Typical “matches” identifying those who may have voted in both Georgia and Virginia include:

    Kevin Antonio Hayes of Durham, North Carolina, is a match for a man who voted in Alexandria, Virginia, as Kevin Thomas Hayes.

    John Paul Williams of Alexandria is supposedly the same man as John R. Williams of Atlanta, Georgia.

    Robert Dewey Cox of Marietta, Georgia is matched with Robert Glen Cox of Springfield, Virginia.

http://projects.aljazeera.com/2014/double-voters/

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649848 tn?1534633700
No, I was talking to Mike.   I posted my article because it clearly pointed out that there were clerical errors and that people had moved and voter rolls had not been corrected, as well as other things and he still got "in my face" personal and accused me of buying into voter fraud.  I, too, should have clarified.

Secondly, if I were accused of doing something I didn't do (as was done here), I'd WANT a public investigation to clear my name.  

In this case, an investigation, as NC is doing, can/will insure that people are not being purged unlawfully from the rolls and losing their right to vote, so I still say investigation is a good thing.
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163305 tn?1333668571
I hope you didn't think I was addressing you because I wasn't. Sorry if I didn't clarify.
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649848 tn?1534633700
I posted an article that totally acknowledges that what "appeared" to be voter fraud was most likely NOT voter fraud and explained several different ways errors could have been made, yet you're insisting that *I* bought into voter fraud...

Talk about disappointment.

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"The only possible reason you'd buy that is because you want to. "  There is a pearl of wisdom from the CE Profit.....  
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163305 tn?1333668571
"the fact that there has never been evidence of significant voter fraud this article purports to claim massive voter fraud. "

This was the point of my orginal post. Using voter fraud as a scapegoat reason, people are being denied their voting rights and it is overwhelmingly people of color.

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Perhaps., but I read you crystal clear and you are a big disappointment.
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I really didn't intend that the way it reads.
What I'm trying to say is that notwithstanding the fact that there has never been evidence of significant voter fraud this article purports to claim massive voter fraud. I am inititially on guard and not because I don't like the results but rather because it goes against everything I have seen over the last 2 decades. I'm immediately suspicious whereas you are immediately buying into this incredible story.. To me it is preposterous and knowing you just a little I have a lot of trouble believing that the rational and reasonable Barb would swallow this hook line and sinker. So when you did I cocluded that you swallowed a result which you found very palatable. That's disappointing but not really surprising. You do a lot of that Barb.
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649848 tn?1534633700
I don't think you're reading well these days...
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If you actually honestly believe over 35000 fraudulent votes were cast then I feel  verry sorry for you. The only possible reason you'd buy that is because you want to. And I've seen enough to believe that is the truth with you.
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649848 tn?1534633700
I don't have to be a statistical genius to be able to read that in the article I posted, from April 2014, they were acknowledging that a lot of what looked like voter fraud may have been clerical error, a need to clean up voter rolls, etc, not necessarily double voting.  

It also point out:
"Those who object to investigating these potential frauds because they don’t believe the frauds exist would do well to encourage such investigations. If the fraud truly doesn’t exist, a thorough investigation will prove them right."
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{....FIRST IT HELPS TO UNDERSTAND STATISTICS. The political scientist Michael McDonald and election law scholar Justin Levitt have shown in a detailed statistical study that the number of people who share a name and birthdate is much higher than it might at first appear. (Just for fun, take the RNC’s Spicer. Though his name is less common than many, online records show 20 different Sean Spicers who were born on September 23rd, his birthday.) That statistical reality, McDonald and Levitt conclude, has big implications for how to treat potential cases of illegal voting.

“I would be very interested indeed in how many of the 35K alleged double voters are the results of mistakes or mistaken assumptions,” Levitt wrote Wednesday in an email to a group of election lawyers. “I’m going to bet on the vast majority evaporating upon closer scrutiny.”...}

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/voter-fraud-north-carolina-not-so-fast-0
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Do you have any follow up information on this claim of "35,750 instances of ‘double voting’ (voter fraud) in the 2012 election"?
The article you posted was from Monday, 14 April 2014. I didn't see any recent articles about this and I would have guessed that if it was true we'd have seen something by now.

"The notion that the board found over 35,000 cases of voter fraud—or even one case—is flatly false. With the investigation not yet even underway, the board, headed by Kim Strach, hasn’t come close to concluding that any specific case involved double voting.*  And there are very good reasons why it’s held off."



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649848 tn?1534633700
A lot of what I posted, only way more dramatic...
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".....But Republicans and conservative media, predictably, aren’t waiting for the results of the probe. Instead, they’re already shouting voter fraud. “N.C. Board of Elections audit finds up to 35,750 instances of ‘double voting’ (voter fraud) in the 2012 election,” tweeted Republican National Committee spokesman Sean Spicer Wednesday. A headline at National Review made the same claim. In a statement, state Sen. Thom Tillis, the frontrunner for the GOP Senate nomination, pointed to “alarming evidence of voter error [and] fraud.”

The notion that the board found over 35,000 cases of voter fraud—or even one case—is flatly false. With the investigation not yet even underway, the board, headed by Kim Strach, hasn’t come close to concluding that any specific case involved double voting.*  And there are very good reasons why it’s held off.

First, it helps to understand statistics. The political scientist Michael McDonald and election law scholar Justin Levitt have shown in a detailed statistical study that the number of people who share a name and birthdate is much higher than it might at first appear. (Just for fun, take the RNC’s Spicer. Though his name is less common than many, online records show 20 different Sean Spicers who were born on September 23rd, his birthday.) That statistical reality, McDonald and Levitt conclude, has big implications for how to treat potential cases of illegal voting.

“I would be very interested indeed in how many of the 35K alleged double voters are the results of mistakes or mistaken assumptions,” Levitt wrote Wednesday in an email to a group of election lawyers. “I’m going to bet on the vast majority evaporating upon closer scrutiny.”

But that still leaves those 765 cases—not as eye-popping a number as 35,000, but still significant—in which the last four digits of a voter’s Social Security number also matched that of someone who voted in another state. Statistically, the chances of a false positive are much, much smaller under this scenario.

Even here, though, there are plenty of explanations beyond deliberate fraud. Election experts point to the high frequency of data errors by poll-workers, a possibility that doubles, of course, when matching voters across two states.

Consider the recent experience of North Carolina’s southern neighbor. Last year, South Carolina’s DMV used Social Security matches to help find more than 900 people listed as dead who had voted in recent years, setting off a spate of hand-wringing about fraud. Attorney General Alan Wilson, a Republican, used the findings to argue for the state’s strict voter ID law—which was later softened after the Justice Department objected. But state law enforcement ultimately found not a single person who deliberately cast a ballot in the name of a dead person.

Nearly half the cases were the result of clerical errors by poll-workers. Others were attributed to DMV officials finding that Social Security numbers matched but not making sure that names did, among several problems. (About 45,370 people have been assigned by the Social Security Administration to each four-digit combination of numbers.)

In Iowa, Ohio, and Florida, attention-generating charges of voter fraud or non-citizen voting also have failed to live up to the hype once investigations were conducted.

“I am banking on poll-worker error for data entry on who voted for many of those,” Levitt told msnbc. “It may be that there are a handful that are actually double votes.” He estimated that number in the single digits.

Still, North Carolina’s findings may highlight a less spectacular flaw in our voting system: the awful state of our voter rolls, which contain numerous duplicates, deceased voters, and voters who have since moved out of state. A recent bipartisan presidential report called for an aggressive effort to clean up the rolls.

While Republicans swiftly denounced the breadth of that report, there is general agreement in both parties that voters rolls do need to be cleaned up. The issue is how to go about it. In Florida and Virginia lately, scores of legitimate voters have been wrongly purged, after election officials used a flawed system that generated the same kind of false positives that may be in evidence in North Carolina. That’s why voting rights advocates fear that, with many efforts to remove voters from the rolls, the medicine can be worse than the cure.

In North Carolina, that will depend on just how many of the cases the board found ultimately hold up. And on that score, Levitt isn’t the only election expert who’s expressing skepticism.

“There’s no guarantee that the North Carolina story will follow the multi-step pattern of: 1) big initial number; 2) partisan outrage; 3) further investigation; 4) much smaller actual number; 5) partisan indifference,” Doug Chapin, who as the director of the Program for Excellence in Election Administration at the University of Minnesota, is among the country’s foremost experts on running elections, wrote online. “But in my experience, that’s the way to bet.”

This sentence has been corrected from an earlier version which said that N.C. Board of Elections director Kim Strach is a Republican. In fact, she is officially unaffiliated, though she was the choice of the Republican-controlled board."

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/voter-fraud-north-carolina-not-so-fast-0
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"Interstate Crosscheck of Voter Records Turns Up Evidence of Electoral Fraud

Kim Westbrook Strach, executive director of the North Carolina State Board of Elections, released startling figures to North Carolina’s Joint Legislative Elections Oversight Committee. The statistics were compiled by comparing North Carolina voter registration data and voter history with similar data from other states. This data was collected via the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program.

35,750 voters who voted in the 2012 general election in North Carolina had exact matches on first name, last name and date of birth with voters who voted in at least one other participating state in the 2012 general election.

Where all or part of Social Security Numbers were also available 765 voters who met the criteria above also had exact matches on the last four digits of their Social Security Numbers.

The North Carolina State Board of Elections is investigating. In an interview with The New American, a spokesman explained they were aware that not all the above cases are necessarily election fraud. Certainly, at least a few of these voter registrations are for people with common names and coincidentally were born on the same day. Another non-fraud cause could be clerical errors by election workers accidentally marking the wrong person as having voted.

The New American asked if the suspected multiple votes were via early voting, absentee ballots, or voting in person on election day. That information is not available yet, but will hopefully be gathered as part of the investigation that is underway.

If a suspected case of duplicate voting involves in-person voting on election day and the places are a great distance away from each other, it could be an indication that someone is voting using someone else’s name, possibly without that person’s knowledge. In electoral fraud circles, these people are known as repeaters because they vote repeatedly in an election.

If any of these suspected duplicate votes are via absentee ballots and the mailing address is close to another related address, such as someone voting from his home in one state and voting absentee in another state via his work address or a nearby political party headquarters, it could be evidence of fraud.

Even in cases of fraud, it is not necessarily fraud by the person whose name is used. The New American has interviewed numerous people in the past regarding electoral fraud. In one such case, a man reviewed a voter registration list and noticed the name of a friend who had moved to a different town a number of years prior, yet the records indicated he was voting regularly. When the man who moved was contacted by his friend, he had no idea his old voter registration had not been deleted or that someone had been voting using his name for years.

Some Duplicate Registrations Were Not Related to Multiple Votes

The interstate cross check also found duplicate voter registrations that were not associated with double voting, at least not for now, but they have the potential to be used for fraud in the future. in North Carolina, 155,692 registered voters had exact matches on first name, last name, date of birth and last four digits of their Social Security Numbers and the latest voter registration activity was not in North Carolina. The vast majority of these duplicate voter registrations can be attributed to people who have moved from North Carolina, and the old registration records haven’t been deleted yet. These are usually fixed by a simple voter registration clean-up.

The Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program

The Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program, also known by the nickname The Kansas Project, was initiated in Kansas in 2005 under Kansas Secretary of State Ron Thornburgh when Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, and Missouri agreed to share voter registration data. The first interstate crosscheck was in 2006. When current Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach assumed office in 2011, the number of states participating had grown to 14. It is now 28 states.

How Thorough Will the Investigations Be?

Thorough investigations of electoral fraud have toppled corrupt politicians before. William “Boss” Tweed of Tammany Hall infamy was brought down within a few years after the U.S. Congress investigated the electoral frauds in New York City in the 1868 presidential election. The Tammany Hall fraudsters were kept out of office for quite few years after that because of two anti-fraud measures in the election laws. 1) All voter registrations had to be in by 30 days before an election. That allowed sufficient time for the voter registration lists to be checked. 2) The New York City Police Department canvassed the entire city verifying every voter registration during that 30-day period.

It is not necessary that the vetting of voter registrations be done by law-enforcement agencies prior to elections. Any government agency will do. As long as the process is open and concerned citizens have access to voter registration information to ensure the vetting is done right, election fraud based on fraudulent voter registrations can be minimized.

Those who object to investigating these potential frauds because they don’t believe the frauds exist would do well to encourage such investigations. If the fraud truly doesn’t exist, a thorough investigation will prove them right."

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/18044-interstate-crosscheck-of-voter-records-turns-up-evidence-of-electoral-fraud
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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2014/11/04/voting-machine-has-wrong-candidate-for-republican-governor-listed-in-texas-n1914101

And we were told that it was the Republicans and mean old MItt Romney and his voting machines that were going to try to pull this stuff.

Oh well.  Democrats good Republicans bad.  As you were, people.
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163305 tn?1333668571
I posted this after hearing a program on the radio:

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/11/3/jim_crow_returns_interstate_crosscheck_program

Thinking ' if it were true the main stream news would be all over it' is simply not so in our current times of our big media being corporate owned. This guy's report brings up finding purges based on similar last names, hence a fellow with the last name of Jackson voting in two different states.

I'm sorry if you guys don't like my news source. But that doesn't make it not true even if you don't want to believe it. Try starting with an open mind.
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649848 tn?1534633700
My husband I went to vote this morning and was amazed at the black turnout. We were clearly outnumbered, so I suppose these were either Uncle Tom's or the Dems are going to win this time around in FL, which will be a big surprise!!  
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As more blacks start to stand up to the slave masters you might see a whole new movement of the Republican party.
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Race appears to be back firing on them too.  Grass roots movements comprised of "black people" are standing up... but the libs call them bad names and say we are racist.  
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Just race baiting, that's all it is. Dems will use race anytime they are in danger of losing. The "War on Women" has backfired on them so why not use race?
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649848 tn?1534633700
I made it through, too - twice... even checked Snopes and Politifact to see if it was true and they had no idea what I was trying to find, no matter what I put in to search for.  I did find that Huff Post had it, but they linked right back Al Jazeera, so it didn't seem that they were real comfy with it either... they're getting pretty bad about posting stuff they can't substantiate.

I agree that with an election coming up in 2 days (many people have already voted), there would be a major outcry, if there was any truth to the story.
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As often as they laugh at our "sources", I wanted to get a good taste of their sources, and I have to tell you.... I'm impressed!  

(I'm impressed that they can criticize any sources while putting up propaganda like this.)
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206807 tn?1331936184
You have far more patience than me.
A story like this would be all over Main Stream Media if it had a morsel of credibility. Instead of reading the article, I ended up watching an old Zombie Movie and I hate Zombie Movies.
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Yeah, I made it through it.  
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