I agree it's a mess in large part because of corporations and politicians, but I also believe that individuals played a role as well. a smaller one albeit, not just in CA but everywhere. And I was quoting Jerry Brown when he indicated that it was in part, "the people's fault".
I don't live in CA, I live in TX, so yes I have heard of Enron. I have friends who worked for Enron who lost a huge part of their savings when Enron closed its doors. (being polite here).
The intent of my post was simply to refute the point of the article - CA has been under both democratic and republican governers for over a decade, and has not fared any better under a democrat than a republican. In MY Opinion.
I don't need a lecture about the collapse of the housing market and who is to blame - everyone is to blame. Some to a greater extent than others. I can list both the general and specific culprits, but this post would get painfully long.
I'm glad you're not struggling, but so many people are leaving CA because it has gotten too expensive to live there, and they don't have a choice in the matter.
I wasn't around when Jerry was governor in the 70's, but from what I've read he was well liked. Different time, different Jerry.
I live in California and the economy is not a mess because of the people.
It's the corporations who all the politicians have bowed under to and are now working for.
Have you heard of the Enron fiasco?
It's not the people struggling to get by.
The banks lied, are fraudulently foreclosing on people and yet Brown dares to blame it on the people living beyond their means
Give me a break.
Look at what Chase just lost !
I liked Brown when he was governor the first time around. Not anymore.
Let's look at this in the micro sense for a moment.
I find it humorous that this speech was given at a University in California - the 40 billion dollar in debt California - the one with the democrat Governor Jerry Brown of California. And I don't doubt that alot of folks would like to blame Arnie for California's current woes, but hell, even Jerry Brown doesn't do that - In his most recent address, he was very blunt about the good people of CA "kicking the can down the road", and spending outside of their means. For years. Go back to Gray Davis - CA was billions of dollars in debt then - with yet another democrat Governor.
My point - California is the most populous state in the nation, and it's debt has increased exponentially; it's unemployment rate has increased, current jobs are going to be cut at an ever increasing rate, with no relief in sight.
The above article in MY opinion, was such a mish mash of figures, it was difficult to decipher. Just my opinion.
And now I am off to buy my #14 Welder's lenses that I have on hold and wait for the eclipse.
So, only democrats are hiring people? Great study... wish this was on paper.
If you want to point fingers (which I wasn’t), fine point fingers. But at least be fair about it. If you want to blame Bush for the Crash, then Blame Bush for the Crash. But if you are going to Blame Bush, please be balanced enough to Blame “Yes We Can” Obama for the poor recovery.
Before the barrage of excuses hit, I agree with Teko “Eventually, however, individual excuses wear thin when you put together all the objective evidence”
Let's remember the reason for the unemplyment spike in 2009-present..THE ECONOMY crashed!.....At least we can say there is improvement. Even if it's not moving as fast as we want it to, it IS improving....
Correction "May 2012 unemployment -8.2% (latest projected figures) compared to May 2008 at 5.5%"
I meant to say, "compared to each year."
Or we can look at it this way.
May 2012 compared to May 2008> increase of 2.7
May 2011 compared to May 2008 > increase of 3.6
May 2010 compared to May 2008 > increase of 4.2
May 2009 compared to May 2008 > increase of 3.4
2 years 2009-2010 with major increase of 4.2% and 2 years of a slow down 2.7%. The bright side is we are showing an overall 1.5% improvement in the last 2 years. Still unacceptable but at least we are going in the right direction.
“Eventually, however, individual excuses wear thin when you put together all the objective evidence.”
This is the “objective evidence” (Keep in mind, I blame both Republicans and Democrats.) Even though we are moving in the right direction, it is at a Snail’s Pace and not much to get excited over.
May 2012 unemployment -8.2% (latest projected figures) compared to May 2008 at 5.5%
May 2011- 9.1 (decrease of .09%)
May 2010- 9.7 (decrease of 1.5%)
May 2009- 8.9 (decrease of .07%)
May 2008- 5.5 (increase of 2.7%)
Over all we are showing an increase of 2.7% unemployment rise from 05/08 – 05/12 compared to an increase of 4.2% unemployment rise from 05/08-05/10.
I'm not defending "my" party...
I'm saying that it (the article) is biased when it clearly said it was "non-partisan".
That's all.....nothing more.
Of course its partison brice. You really dont think republicans would say these things? The point is, is it true? The only thing that will prove that one way or the other is to research for fact. Should be easy enuff to do. He said himself.
Believe me, I understand one’s gut desire to defend one’s party — even in the face of bad facts. Been guilty of it myself.
Eventually, however, individual excuses wear thin when you put together all the objective evidence. Concentrating wealth in the hands of the few and deregulating financial institutions and practices lead to speculative bubbles that eventually burst — and that brings the whole country down.
Does the New York Mayor, Micheal Bloomberg have anything to do with the Bloomberg mentioned above? If so, can't really call his findings as "non-partisan". Maybe I misunderstood something, but you couldn't confuse Cal Berkeley as "partisan"?