Here is my point. I am not a Kerry advocate at all but with that said, if you want to draw conclusions, do it based on facts. Those have been presented. Someone said He is either a guy who doesn't really know nothing about politics in DC and is part of the "good old boy" network on the left side (They take care of their own. Proof is by propping him up for an unsuccessful run at the Presidency and he hasn't gone away.) or completely brainwashed in propaganda.
Looks like to me there is a good ole boy network working on the right as well possibly taking care of their own?
T*t for Tat and all that?
Evidently no proof was ever found to back up the allegations so, have a field day with those assumptions not based on fact. But please present it for what it is instead of what you assume it to be, is all Im saying.
Unfortunately, I voted for Bush and the rest is history. Hindsight is always 20/20 isnt it.
Does it matter who funded the Swift Vets? So all 20 of them were lying? Come on.
THANK YOU!! I am so relieved to read this. I got caught up in something else and hadn't yet looked it up.
For someone that claims to be middle of the road politically, Im amazed you didnt check this out way back then. The summary, and the link above tells the whole story.
A group funded by the biggest Republican campaign donor in Texas began running an attack ad Aug. 5 in which former Swift Boat veterans claim Kerry lied to get one of his two decorations for bravery and two of his three purple hearts.
But the veterans who accuse Kerry are contradicted by Kerry's former crewmen, and by Navy records.
One of the accusers says he was on another boat "a few yards" away during the incident which won Kerry the Bronze Star, but the former Army lieutenant whom Kerry plucked from the water that day backs Kerry's account. In an Aug. 10 opinion piece in the conservative Wall Street Journal, Rassmann (a Republican himself) wrote that the ad was "launched by people without decency" who are "lying" and "should hang their heads in shame."
And on Aug. 19, Navy records came to light also contradicting the accusers. One of the veterans who says Kerry wasn't under fire was himself awarded a Bronze Star for aiding others "in the face of enemy fire" during the same incident.
Republican-funded Group Attacks Kerry's War Record
August 6, 2004
Updated: August 22, 2004
"To me, he's another rich politician. . . .
I don't feel one way or the other about him really. "
I agree with you, SM.
I find him kind of bland but don't strongly like him or dislike him.
Brice~ He lied ? Find me one of those big wigs in DC who haven't.
I forgot about that! Did he exagerate or did he totally lie?? I can't remember the details. Honestly, Kerry is a memory for me and I haven't been keeping up on him.
Kerry fabricated a wonderful, elaborate, war hero story about the Viet Nam era that he played absolutely no part in.
I didn't know that If that is true then I m very displeased. A man who lies is bad enough but to lie for the purpose of self-aggrandizement is intolerable for a leader.
For me against Kerry... It is the flip flop thing that "everyone?" had against Romney. Seems as if the Democrats will give their guy a pass but will be judge, jury and executioner for a Republican.
All democrats ought to be torqued off that Kerry fabricated a wonderful, elaborate, war hero story about the Viet Nam era that he played absolutely no part in.
I guess folks are willing to let that slide and then get lied to, to their face about other stuff. Kerry is as good of a pawn as anyone else... but he served on a boat that saved the nation or something... can we ask him about that again???
I'm curious why people don't like Kerry so much. He was liked enough to get the presidential bid.
To me, he's another rich politician. But people in Washington seem to like him. ???
I don't feel one way or the other about him really.
I think Rice got caught in a bad timing situation. I don't know what to think of the issues with Libya but trying to get a top spot such as this when you are associated with that controversial event is tough. Bad timing for her.
Almost anyone would be better than Romney - including Kerry.
You have to get a hold on your perspective there.
I don't like Kerry...Rice should've fought the fight! the Benghazi report would've vindicated her... and I REALLY don't like the President "mulling" Chuck Hagel for defense Sec. either...............
I think you're right on that. (I'm pretty sure Kerry is in office somewhere, so that would open things up.)
I liken Kerry to Romney.... say anything and everything to get elected. He is certainly not better than Romney.
Dont they get to fight over his seat? Kerry opened up another opportunity for a position for somebody didnt he? Rice would not have. Thinking out loud here.
Kerry is one of two people. I think both are plausible. He is either a guy who doesn't really know nothing about politics in DC and is part of the "good old boy" network on the left side (They take care of their own. Proof is by propping him up for an unsuccessful run at the Presidency and he hasn't gone away.) or completely brainwashed in propaganda.
Someone mentioned that the republicans like him.... I wouldn't bet on that. There is nothing in it for republicans to "like" Kerry. That's what this is all about. There has to be something in there for them to like. Kerry is Hanoi Jane, minus boobs.
Your voice doesn't count even if you are an American, when it comes to who the president chooses for his cabinet. It's up to those goons in DC.
Im sure Kerry will have no problem getting the position. Republicans like him, he was almost president and has experience, and after all, he is not that Rice woman is he?
I would have preferred Rice, but they werent having any of that and vowed to stop her before she got started.
I don't expect some Republican to be nominated to the position but come on Obama you can do much better then Rice (even though not offically nominated) and Kerry. These people are a disaster.
I am not a Kerry fan. Not even a little bit. Is this who is seriously being considered right now? Sometimes I wish I was American so my voice could really count.