Dentist wont perscribe antibiotics

[winningone]

I had a root canal about a month ago and 8 days ago had a temporary crown put on. After the crown i expected the sore gums, after a few days of this getting worse I noticed a black (blood?) bump at the top of my gum right under the tooth that had the crown. My gum has been bothering me there for quite sometime, but not this bad. The dentist that placed the temporary on even said she didn't make the crown to go all the way to my gum so it wouldn't aggravate my gum anymore.  So after the black bump, the next day it was white and puffy and extremely painful. On Saturday the bump busted and the nastiest pus came out and was very foul, sticky/slimy and thick.  The next day even more pus came out and that was 2 days ago. I called and got into the dentist on Monday and the dentist was extremely rude and just called it "mild irritation", he even said that it did sound like an infection but "its gone now"! It had only be the day before that the foul pus was coming out. He gave me some mouthwash. I asked for antibiotics, but were not given any.  I went back today to see the hygienist and asked for another dentists opinion on if I had an infection. The hygienist seems to think that I did have an infection but the dentist did not and again would not give me any antibiotics, just said use the mouthwash and advil.  It is so painful even today and seems not to be getting better. It is white and purple and my jaw hurts.  I know they didnt see anything on the x-ray, this is because I think it is a gum infection cause by the roughness of the crown placement.  I can not find anything online that wouldn't suggest that having a boil will foul smelling discharge is NOT an infection.  Should I be concerned?

[Schroeding]

My recommendation is to turn to something like Echinacea. This herbal food supplement has been wildly successful for me in the past, as I have used it to fight sore throat infections and it works FASTER than antibiotics do... I have a really cool dentist and, he "confessed" to me something and told me to keep it under my hat.  He said that there is some kind of "code" among dentists and they never will give you ordinary antibiotics, no matter what, even though they know it would help you heal if they did give it. So yeah, its a HUGE problem, and perhaps the only solution is to use Echinacea or something like that. Ricola makes a combination "Ginseng and vitamin complex" that's supposed to be great for boosting the immune system...

[Schroeding]

My recommendation is to turn to something like Echinacea - an herbal food supplement which acts to fight nfection. It has been wildly successful for me in the past, as I have used it to fight sore throat infections and it works FASTER than antibiotics do... I have a really cool dentist and, he confessed to me something and told me to keep it under my hat.  He said that there is some kind of code among dentists and they never will give you ordinary antibiotics, no matter what, even though they know it would help you heal if they did give it. So yeah, its a HUGE problem, and perhaps the only solution is to use Echinacea or something like that. Ricola makes a combination of Ginseng and vitamin complex; that's supposed to be great for boosting the immune system...

[streamline569]

I'm having a similar problem with a nasty surgeon. I need pain medication and he refuses and has already yelled at me twice. Once over the phone for not calling earlier, then when I told him I wasn't happy he was leaving me anything for the pain. I paid already so not much I can do, he is giving me good care if I could just get some meds and get him to stop yelling at me. always when no one is around. Gone are the days when a Patient comes first. I think they are all afraid of law suits and trying to cover their butts more then help us.

[candykisses130]

Try using a mouth rinse specialized in healing. I know orajel has one, it did wonders for me.

[mammo]

The ulcer would not have been caused my you needing a crown lengthening.  I think this may be a sore spot from the dentist working on lengthening the crown causing trauma to the gum.  I would try rinsing your mouth 3-4 times a day with warm salt water, don't brush that area and chew on the other side to give this time to heal.  Avoid salty, hot and acidic foods.  If you develop pain instead of just soreness or swelling get back to the dentist.  Anything in the mouth like this takes time to heal (2-3 weeks), so baby the area and if you see no improvement within a week or two go back to the dentist.  Did they xray the area?

[winningone]

I'm back. So the ulcer spot that was on my gums after the crown work was almost gone before I got the crown lengthening procedure.  About 2 days after the crown lengthening work the ulcer came back.  Exact same spot and even worse pain.  Dentists seem to not know what is going on.  But the ulcer spot is about the size of an eraser head and so very painful.  It doesn't have any puss this time.  It is red and raw looking.   Any ideas? It's. been a week and 2 days now.  

[winningone]

So just thought I would update. Went to a periodontist last week and they said I need "crown lengthening", that is scheduled for this Friday.

[mammo]

Good for you!  Don't cut that other dentist any slack...it's his job to look closer just like this one did.  Keep us posted on how you're doing!

[winningone]

Got in to see the dentist that did my root canal a while back. He looked at my mouth with a microscope device and also perscribed some antibiotics! Yeah! I don't think the other dentists really were seeing the spot clearly.  I've never been so happy to have antibiotics :) Still have appt to see perio for next week, to find out exactally what is going on, right now it appears to be a big ulcer type thing.

[winningone]

well cant get in with perio until another week!! it is obvious that I have an infection! why are they treating me like this?

[winningone]

ugh,  just called the dentist (again), she said that I need to see a periodontist. Shouldnt she be fixing what she screwed up last week? and taking care of me?? dang it.

[mammo]

Something caused the infection and until the cause is treated, you will only get worse.  You should not be feeling like this, it's time to stop questioning yourself and seek help.

[winningone]

mammo,
lets say when it popped on Saturday (with more coming out on Sunday), and without antibiotics, how long should it take to start feeling better. I guess i am thinking *IF* (and that is a BIG if) all the infection did come out when it popped (which I'm no expert abscess drainer and didn't even think about making sure to get it all out), shouldnt it be feeling better by now? I'm still in as much pain as I have been in for 5 or 6 days, I've been rinsing with the mouthwash and trying the best i can to keep it cleaned out. It just doesnt seem to be improving at all. Now my whole head hurts, sore throat, swollen glands. Now is this just coincidence that it coinsides with this abscess? The dentist on monday acted like since it popped it was "gone now", I just dont think that is the case.

[winningone]

Never thought I'd have to beg for antibiotics!   Usually they are throwing them at me for everything!

[mammo]

Wow...kick that dentist to the curb!  You need antibiotics right away, it's good that the infection drained but it sounds like the infection is still there. You need to see someone to get a second opinion and antibiotics.  You can try you GP or if you have insurance go to the ER.  Then I would file a complaint with the BBB about all of this and get reimbursed for any extra costs you have due to his refusal to help you!  I wish you all the best...you shouldn't have to be going through this!