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Elder Abuse
My first question was whether there is anything wrong with a doctor prescribing 20mg Geodon once a day to a elderly patient.
My second question is if it is considered Elderly Abuse to tell your elderly mother, who has symptoms of paranoia and delusions, that her daughters and doctor are trying to murder her because the doctor prescribed the Geodon. She only took 1 dose.
My second question is if it is considered Elderly Abuse to tell your elderly mother, who has symptoms of paranoia and delusions, that her daughters and doctor are trying to murder her because the doctor prescribed the Geodon. She only took 1 dose.
I'm sorry if my post hit some sore points.
I expect you have every reason to be angry when family are making a difficult situation even more so.
Perhaps it is your brothers who need the Geodon?
It's never nice when people, especially family, bicker over money.
I agree. Your mother should have access to treatment. In our country that would be considered a violation of her rights.
Maybe you could consult a lawyer??
I expect you have every reason to be angry when family are making a difficult situation even more so.
Perhaps it is your brothers who need the Geodon?
It's never nice when people, especially family, bicker over money.
I agree. Your mother should have access to treatment. In our country that would be considered a violation of her rights.
Maybe you could consult a lawyer??
My mother took 1 dose 20mg of Geodon and it was when my brothers were in town. All of us kids were with our parents all day. No one expressed concern. She was actually doing well mentally that day. Due to her difficulty walking, she stopped taking it. It wasn't until the next week that their accusations occurred.
Their rationale for accusing me and my sister of trying to murder our mother is this: My sister took her to the doctor, who prescribed the Geodon. I gave the rx receipt to my dad. The pharmacy attaches info on the drug, which apparently made it sound safe. So they said I was an accomplice because the info tried to 'justify' her murder. That is it! That is exactly what they said to justify their insane accusations.
We spent 5 years taking care of them with no money or expectations. The brothers know better. There is no misunderstanding on their part. They yelled and screamed (in front of our mother) that we were trying to murder her - over and over! I would never try to get any of the kids cut out of the will. The parents told my younger sister, who has had terrible problems, was getting a small percent. I tried to get my parents to be more fair and told them how hurtful that was to her. The brothers who want all of the money and decided it was time (knowing how much our parents are deteriorating) to go after control.
Let me repeat. There was no mistake about their evil, deceptive accusations. They KNOW the accusations are insane and illogical. They deliberately terrified our mother to fear for her life. They KNOW how damaging that was for our mother. The brothers are not in their profession because they care about people. They are in it for the prestige, extremely generous benefits, unlimited overtime, job security, lots of free time for travel and side jobs, early retirement, etc. They brag about it all the time.
My sister and I would love to have a family counselor involved. Unfortunately, the others would never allow it. I was hoping by writing in this forum that there was a way to get someone to intervene.
Apparently, these actions are not illegal or worthy of intervention. I consider terrifying a paranoid person to be abuse - and not allowing her to get help to be negligent at best. I also consider their manipulation of the parents for the purpose of taking control of their money to be fraud. My parents made their decisions on what they want to do with their money - at least as far as their CD's where us girls were named beneficiaries. Mother gave them to me to do with as I wish with them. I believe the brothers will change this.
Their rationale for accusing me and my sister of trying to murder our mother is this: My sister took her to the doctor, who prescribed the Geodon. I gave the rx receipt to my dad. The pharmacy attaches info on the drug, which apparently made it sound safe. So they said I was an accomplice because the info tried to 'justify' her murder. That is it! That is exactly what they said to justify their insane accusations.
We spent 5 years taking care of them with no money or expectations. The brothers know better. There is no misunderstanding on their part. They yelled and screamed (in front of our mother) that we were trying to murder her - over and over! I would never try to get any of the kids cut out of the will. The parents told my younger sister, who has had terrible problems, was getting a small percent. I tried to get my parents to be more fair and told them how hurtful that was to her. The brothers who want all of the money and decided it was time (knowing how much our parents are deteriorating) to go after control.
Let me repeat. There was no mistake about their evil, deceptive accusations. They KNOW the accusations are insane and illogical. They deliberately terrified our mother to fear for her life. They KNOW how damaging that was for our mother. The brothers are not in their profession because they care about people. They are in it for the prestige, extremely generous benefits, unlimited overtime, job security, lots of free time for travel and side jobs, early retirement, etc. They brag about it all the time.
My sister and I would love to have a family counselor involved. Unfortunately, the others would never allow it. I was hoping by writing in this forum that there was a way to get someone to intervene.
Apparently, these actions are not illegal or worthy of intervention. I consider terrifying a paranoid person to be abuse - and not allowing her to get help to be negligent at best. I also consider their manipulation of the parents for the purpose of taking control of their money to be fraud. My parents made their decisions on what they want to do with their money - at least as far as their CD's where us girls were named beneficiaries. Mother gave them to me to do with as I wish with them. I believe the brothers will change this.
Your situation seems a little complex.
I believe there is a difference between being unwell and being told that someone is trying to kill you.
Could she have experienced a side-effect from the medication? Perhaps your mother had a reaction which frightened your brothers and caused them to overreact.
Perhaps the medication needs reviewing. ??
I only mentioned that because when I was in hospital and force fed medications I had problems with my breathing, etc. Medications do have side-effects, some of which can be terrifying.
Maybe your brothers want what is best for your mother but are going about it a different way. Your brothers are in professions which show some concern for others. Maybe you are all just misunderstanding each others process and objectives?
Sometimes we have to let go of the past and allow change.
It sounds like you may never get that unconditional (functional) love that you yearn for from your parents.
They want the money or you want the money or you don't want them to have the money. ??
What your parents do with their money is their business.
As primary caregiver it would be nice to be recognized but money should never be the motivating factor to caring for someone.
A social worker should be able to offer, if not intervention, at least a communication pathway.
I'm not sure what to advise you. Your family need to talk about this rationally. Your mothers health is the priority here. You should all be supporting her instead of fighting and potentially destabilizing her.
The doctor has the experience and expertize so perhaps family counselling is the way to go. I would recommend that you look into that.
I believe there is a difference between being unwell and being told that someone is trying to kill you.
Could she have experienced a side-effect from the medication? Perhaps your mother had a reaction which frightened your brothers and caused them to overreact.
Perhaps the medication needs reviewing. ??
I only mentioned that because when I was in hospital and force fed medications I had problems with my breathing, etc. Medications do have side-effects, some of which can be terrifying.
Maybe your brothers want what is best for your mother but are going about it a different way. Your brothers are in professions which show some concern for others. Maybe you are all just misunderstanding each others process and objectives?
Sometimes we have to let go of the past and allow change.
It sounds like you may never get that unconditional (functional) love that you yearn for from your parents.
They want the money or you want the money or you don't want them to have the money. ??
What your parents do with their money is their business.
As primary caregiver it would be nice to be recognized but money should never be the motivating factor to caring for someone.
A social worker should be able to offer, if not intervention, at least a communication pathway.
I'm not sure what to advise you. Your family need to talk about this rationally. Your mothers health is the priority here. You should all be supporting her instead of fighting and potentially destabilizing her.
The doctor has the experience and expertize so perhaps family counselling is the way to go. I would recommend that you look into that.
Thank you for your response. However, there was no misunderstanding by my dad or 2 brothers. One brother is a firefighter and the other is a paramedic. They (and us girls) were with my mom and dad when they said she almost died. If they thought she was i any jeopardy, they should have taken her to ER or called 911. They have accomplished what they want and they do not want my mom to be well mentally because they want to control and manipulate her. She is the only one who loved us girls (in a dysfunctional way). They want all of the parents' money.
They are not interested in the truth or in resolving anything. They got what they want.
Unless there is a way for someone to intervene, my sisters and I wlll probably never see or talk to the brothers or parents again and we will be left with no money.
They are not interested in the truth or in resolving anything. They got what they want.
Unless there is a way for someone to intervene, my sisters and I wlll probably never see or talk to the brothers or parents again and we will be left with no money.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
sorry to hear about this kind of trouble in a family when hopefully everyone is trying to help...sounds particularly tough on you. If you could find a family counselor who could meet with you, your dad, and your siblings, you might be able to prevent some future episodes.
The information I have says that seniors may take this medication without special restrictions but that they may experience more side-effects.
It says the usual adult dose is between 20-100 mg twice a day but that the lowest effective dose is recommended.
The 20 mg seems to fall within those parameters. If you have concerns you should discuss those with the treating physician.
I don't know what you would call it but I think it is inappropriate.
I think the comments have the potential to make her extremely unwell.
It is unfortunate that she has discontinued the medication and I expect her doctor will need to reassess the situation.
The family dynamics, at best, seem strained. It would be good if there were some consensus regarding care and treatment.
Good luck with everything.
It says the usual adult dose is between 20-100 mg twice a day but that the lowest effective dose is recommended.
The 20 mg seems to fall within those parameters. If you have concerns you should discuss those with the treating physician.
I don't know what you would call it but I think it is inappropriate.
I think the comments have the potential to make her extremely unwell.
It is unfortunate that she has discontinued the medication and I expect her doctor will need to reassess the situation.
The family dynamics, at best, seem strained. It would be good if there were some consensus regarding care and treatment.
Good luck with everything.
Just a follow-up. My brothers had my mother so paranoid that she warned my daughter about me and the brothers had her change her locks yesterday. They were yelling and screaming at me and my sister (who have been their caretakers for almost 5 years) and accused us of trying to murder our mother (in front of her and my dad) yesterday. My dad joined in and it was such a nightmare for all of us.
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