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White tongue

Hi,

On the 15th of Januray I have noticed that I have this white tongue, usually I have a nice pink tongue. I noticed this white tongue because one moning when I woke up I had vey dry mouth so I went to check it in the mirror. Later on I started to have 37.2 degree temperature for 6 days (it was coming back to normal at some parts of the day)
Here is the story On the 24th of december I went to the dentist to have a root canal treatment on one of my tooth and other work was done on my teeth, the dentist prescribed me Dalacin C 300mg for a week in order to avoid any infections. I also have a rotten tooth that also needs a root canal treatment. Recently I went to an ENT doctor who said that on first sight nothing alarming and took a swab sample of the white coating, which came back negative.

I do not know if this is important but 4 months ago I received an unprotected fellatio and all my STD test came back negative.

What can this be? how can I treat it?

Thank you very much for any advice.
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4851940 tn?1515694593
I am sorry to hear that you are scared.

As you are stressed and depressed this will have an impact on your eating habits.  Some people (like myself) when depressed and suffer from stress eat more and gain weight.  Others, like yourself, it affects the appetite and therefore you don't fee like eating.

Please go to see a GP, (hope you have been keeping a food and drink and "how I feel every day" diary), take your notes with you to the doctor so that he will see a pattern of what is going on.

Hopefully he will take a blood sample to check for anaemia, diabetes or other illnesses (depends on what the doctor thinks you may have)  NOTE what I have said "MAY have".  

As you are not experiencing any digestive problems apart from loss of appetite, best to see the GP first, he will then determine whether you need to be examined by a gastroenterologist.

As you have a constantly dry mouth (I have this problem too), drink plenty of water.  Sometimes with a dry mouth (if you are not breathing through an open mouth) can also be from diabetes.

I know you are worried that you have lost this weight because you have not consciously been dieting.  Go to the Doc as explained above, and ask for a blood test for anemia, B12 deficiency and diabetes.

In the meantime, do not eat hot and spicy foods, or fried foods.
Keep up with the good oral hygiene and drink the yogurt and apply the Daktarin (if you read the instructions, it does say to continue for a few days after the symptoms have settled).  When you apply it to yuor mouth, put some in and swish it around your mouth.  Try not to eat or drink too soon afterwards so that the Darktarin stays in your mouth for as long as possible.

Stress and depression is no good for your health, and your doctor should ask you questions with regard to this, as you may need a course of antidepressents (if you are not taking any at the moment).  Don't forget that not all antidepressents suit all people, so it is trial and error getting the right one that suits you.  If you fall rock bottom and lose interest in hygiene and your hobbies for example, it will take up to 3 months for the antidepressants to have any effect.

You need to speak on a one to one basis with your doctor.  Write a list of all your problems and hand that to your doctor (sometimes this is better than talking with him because you may miss something out).  

In the meantime eat foods that contain iron, milk, eggs, meat (for B12) and dark green veg, You can buy B12 sublingual (placed under the tongue), excess B12 in your body will be excreted through the urine.  And multivitamins with iron.  But best to get a blood check with your doctor.

To help with the stress and depression before you  see the doctor, go for walks in the fresh air as well as any form of relaxation you prefer - not sitting in front of a computer or TV.  

Hope you get on alright and that I have given you lots to think about to help you get back on track again.

Best wishes.
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Did you test for hiv and htlv. 2 retroviruses which can cause the dry mouth and weight loss symptoms early in disease. It is your bodies way of fighting illness. I would mention it to your doctor
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I have the same problem and it started after I had my root canal treatment. Did my blood work. CT scan for my sinuses. Endoscopy result - hiatal hernia  and erythema in the stomach. Everything else came normal. All came normal. I have exactly the same symptoms. Does your coating produce bad breath? I'm guess it does. My dentists didn't use a dental dam while doing the root canal. Did yours?

Did your culture test for anaerobic bacteria (both gram positive & gram negative)
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I have the same problem and it started after I had my root canal treatment. Did my blood work. CT scan for my sinuses. Endoscopy result - hiatal hernia  and erythema in the stomach. Everything else came normal. All came normal. I have exactly the same symptoms. Does your coating produce bad breath? I'm guess it does. My dentists didn't use a dental dam while doing the root canal. Did yours?

Did your culture test for anaerobic bacteria (both gram positive & gram negative)
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I have the same tongue exactly .........

And I was on Dyoxcline for NSU for 2 weeks. The tongue was there before I took the antibiotics though.

Has your situation changed?
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I have just done another CBC and compared to my last result 3 days ago eveything is similar except the WBC which are 14,5% I do not understand!!!!

I did it at night two hours after playing football and I was taking nystatin
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I really hope you get well soon.

I am hesitating on taking it because this is a dentist/ oral pathologist who prescribed it, without having any tests.

I did two culture swabs of my tongue and they were negative. I will do also in two days a KOH fungus test. if it is also negative than no need for antifungual medication, right?
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4851940 tn?1515694593
Just a quick note as I feel quite unwell.
Good news that you have gained some weight.
Do take the Nystatin.  This is an antiungal med.  You wouldn't have been prescribed it if the doc didn't think you needed it.

Best wishes
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I have also regained around 2 kilograms 4 pounds in 2,5 days..
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I just came back from an oral pathologist/ dentist...as usual just told me food debris and ****...however he prescribed me Nystatin!!! which i don t think I will take.

I have just also got my CBC results for blood.everything looks normal compared to the two other test that I have done on december 26 2012 and january 16 2013, except for my lymphocytes which have changed fom 33% (dec), 30% (jan) and now 41% (March). Now I m getting really scared. the ENT doctor said it is normal but she hadn't seen my previous results to compare. Also my Eosinophilis are 6% and they were 0% in January.

I hope the infectiologist can help and I hope it is not a dangerous diseas.
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hey jemma, well for the woms. I took on the 26 of february 400 mg of zentel as I know that I previously had worms, pinworms the vsmall ones. I will take anothe pill in 3 days. as I read it should be take again after 2 weeks from the first one.  

I currently weight 162 pounds and I lost 4 pounds in one week. I measure 5.6 foot.  I have been eating these two days to see if i will gain...
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4851940 tn?1515694593
You are so kind.
No idea to your question.

The other thing that crossed my mind tonight.  - but I do not want to alarm you.  If nothing is found by all the tests you are having done with regard to your weight loss, may be it would be a good idea to have your stools checked for any worms.

When people eat BBQ for example, the meat is not always thoroughly cooked in the middle.  This is bad with pork.  Sometimes the tape worm eggs are in the pork meat.  This is then digested and the egg hatches out into a tape worm.  This lives in the intestine.  People eat a lot and lose weight, because the worm takes the nourishment.  

But then again, you have said that you do not have an appetite.  Mmmmm.

Perhaps some Guiness may give you some appetite back.  

I have just stopped making a fondant Nigerian bride.  I have never done one before.  I have to make a head and face - I am not too good at that.  I made and finished the Bride Groom and he looks funny.

I have a new Nigerian friend that lived opposite my house for a few months.  Her daughter is getting married in Nigeria at the end of the month and she wanted some cake Bride and Groom toppers.  She had a go with me on Tuesday night and we laughed our socks off at the sight of the chaps' heads and the body was just shrinking down LOL.

I usually make fondant decorations for family cakes and occasionally friends.  Made a Mr. Blobby cake for an 18 year old lad a few years ago.

You sound really skinny.  I could do with losing weight.  But am having difficulty.  I go for walks every day despite being in pain.  

Take care and let me know how you get on with your tests.
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thank yo vey much Jemma you are really one great person. I would liek to meet you one day. I hope you it will be ok with your doctor.

FYI 2 kilograms is arounf 4.4 pounds which I lost in one week! I am trying to eat normally and taking weight protein powder with milk.

I will also see an infectiologist next week. and saturday an oral pathologist dentist do you think he could help in diagnosing my tongue?
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4851940 tn?1515694593
Well as all the tests have come back fine and no probs with the prostate that's good.  Good idea to see the urologist.  He may ask you to do a urine flow test and do further investigation.

If you are anxious and suffering from stress that can make you pee more.  When I used to sing solo on stage, I used to run non-stop for a pee (through nerves).

My hustband had a urine flow test today and that was fine.  The specialist told him that with him having an urge to go to pee a lot that there are medicines for this so that you do not go so frequently.  (I didn't know that before).  I could with some of them too. The annyoying this is when you are busting to go and then go on the loo, you hardly get anything come out.  

Hope yu enjoy yur wine.  I get drunk with one glassful. :)

I will do some calculations another day, as I am very weary and not well myself.  I'll be seeing the doc tomorrow.  

Take care and enjoy whatever you choose to do.

Best wishes.
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hey Jemma thanks for checking uo on me :)

Well for kilo you can easily convert online. I am not really worried about HIV as I have test negative at 8 13 and 14 weeks after an unprotected fellatio.

NSU is non specific urethitis, which includes ureaplasma and mycoplasma. I do not think this is what caused my weight loss. Well I am trying to relax and take over control so I can exclude stress from my weight loss. I am having some wine currently to destress.  But even so I still have this pressure on my urethra like I need to urinate I will ago again to the urologist.

I did a diabetes test and it was normal as well as an ultrasound on the prostate and testicules. which were also normal.

I had done a CBC one the 16 of January and it was normal. and I noticed my tongue around the 15th of january. But anyway i did another blood test.

It is just that my symptoms seems not related, fequent feeling that i need to uinate, loss of appetite and this tongue :s I do not know if they r related
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Hope you have had a good day today and are not stressing yurself out too much.

Best wishes
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The first morning one is best, but if yu have an urinary infection it will show up.  If you are still having problems, yur prostate needs to be checked out.  An inflamed prostate will press on yuur waterwork pipes and cause you to experience frequent urination.  As will diabetes.

The Complete Blood Count checks for levels of haemoglobin, this will tell you if you are anaemic or not.  A full blood count will not test for diabetes nor for thyroid problems.  

What is NSU?

I don't understnad much about kilos.  I know that 1 kilo is just over 2 pounds.  I am not much up on cm either.  I do know that 1 metre measures 39 inches which is 1 foot and 3 inches (36 inches measures 1 foot).

The young kids at school now learn about metres and kilos, but these metric measurements were just coming in when I left school.  My parents understand litres, metres and kilos because they are from the continent and not the UK originally.

I don't know what ureaplasma and mycoplasma are either.  Are you concerned that with your loss of weight and the other problems and the unprotected thing that you may be HIV?

I have a nephew who is HIV positive.  As I understand from my sister-in-law, people with HIV have a compromised immune system.

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I measure 1.73 cm. i also think a kidney test would be more appropriate. I don't know all this is really weird.
I did Two urine tests and analysis and they came back normal. but the urine take was not the first urine in the morning. i think I will do another one and have my morning urine analysed.

I want also to test for NSU and ureaplasma and mycoplasma
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thx for your reply.

CBC is a complete blood count. i also did another oral swab for bacteria and fungus to rule out completely candida, as the first test was negative.

my tooth is still not done :s i will visit a dentist/oal pathologist this saturday.

for my weight it is in kilograms on the 15 of january I was 76.5 Kilograms and on the 26th of March 75,4 and today 73,4. I will try to eat more as I was not eating very much lately but still not to the point to lose 2 kilos in one week
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In my opinion, unless you are an alcoholic or you have yellow tinge to your skin, or taking medication for hypertension, you do not need to have a liver function test.

I do not know what CBC is.

The symptoms you describe could be related if you have a waterworks infection, and are anaemic.

You need to chill.

Get your urine tested for urinary tract infections.  
Get your blood checked for anaemia and B12, diabetes and possibly kidney function.
Hope you have had your tooth repaired.
Keep applying the Daktarin as prescribed.
Make sure you have a good oral hygiene.  Brush yur teeth morning and evening.
And see how we go from there.

I usually work in Stones and by my reckoning if the 73.4 is in pounds you weigh 5stone 5 lbs.  For a chap of yur age, don't know how tall you are or yur body frame, but that is far too low and unhealthy.
See your GP asap to check for blood disorders.  
Another disorder that can cause loss of weight can be overactive thyroid.
As yu said that yur appetite has got less, then I presume that you are not deliberately anorexic.

Take care, best wishes.



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I have just weighted my self today. I was 73.4 I lost 2 kilos in one week!!!

I did today a CBC and another tongue swab.

i do not know if the frequent urination, white tongue, loss of appetite/ weight loss are related!!

should I do a liver test? or which test i m getting crazy
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4851940 tn?1515694593
Forgot to say ealier.

With your persistent urgent need to urinate, you may have a urinary tract infection.  Take a urine specimen with you when you see your doctor, or in some surgeries (in ours) you can just drop off a specimen.  Ask the receptionist for a urine specimen bottle.  When you do a urine specimen, first pee a little into the toilet, then into the bottle and finish off into the toilet.  This is called a mid urine flow.  It is best to do one when you first wake up.  If you can't get it to the doctors or lab for a few hours, keep it in the fridge.

Any signs of a urinary infection can be cloudy, smelly sedminent deposits, sometimes blood can be seen (dark urine).  Dark urine can also be from some meds and foods.  So don't be too alarmed if you are taking meds and drinks foods that could discolour your urine (if you eat beetroot that will make your pee on the red side).

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I also lost like 3 kilograms or more in 8 weeks...I feel like I am dying :s
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Hi Jemma regarding my appetit I am 28 years old so i do not think old :)
but I am stressed and depressed.

My bowel movement are fine I think I do not have constipation or diarrhea, just this often feeling that i need to urinate.

This appetite loss happened at the same time when I noticed my tongue, how can I know if it is related should I go to a gastroenterologist doctor?

I am very scared...
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