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I'm 14 and I want to know the beat way for me to start losing weight. As most wieghtloss deits are for people 15 and over.  
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hello, start taking the natural diet pills they are not harmful and have no side effects.
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649848 tn?1534633700
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We don't normally recommend the use of pills for weight loss.  I know of the one you are referring to - generic Xenical - and yes, it does work; however, the problem with diet aids like that is that, once you go off them, you are very likely to gain back any weight lost, along with more.  

Implementing a healthy diet and exercise routine, making changes that you can stick with are best, and provide a greater chance that the weight will stay off.
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What is typically avoided is Dairy, red meat and sugar.  For my migraines I am not supposed to have cheese, nuts or chocolate.

I feel that unless I eat vegan my body can not function.  I feel weak, tired and my stomach feels bloated.

Its been a long journey but as of Jan I am going to figure out what exactly is making it worse.
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I did a quick search of endometriosis; while I did find one site that "insisted" that certain food be completely eliminated, I also found other sites that "suggest" that most foods can be eaten in limited amounts - these include meat, dairy and other items.  

I've never been a proponent for a "one size fits all", whether it be for losing weight, or a medical condition.  

I so agree with you that science changes on a daily basis; therefore what is touted as today's panacea, will be tomorrow's "killer".  In addition to that, we are all so very individual that we can't all abide by the same "rules".

If you find something your body doesn't tolerate well, it should be avoided; however, if you eat something and there are  no adverse effects, there should be no reason to avoid it.

Best of luck to you.
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If you google "dangers of Ketosis diet" you'll get what you need on how its not healthy.

So like other posters have said on here before, every day there is something new and not one is better then the other in my opinion.

Every diet has dangers to it. So the best thing to do is find out what you are intolerant to and eat a very healthy diet otherwise.

CASE CLOSED
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I got my  info at WebMD; I've reposted the site for you to check out.

http://women.webmd.com/guide/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets
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As first it is not dangerous and its not unhealthy. There are situation you can benefit to be in ketosis state and there are situation you dont. You cant just say "its unhealthy" - who says that and how did he get this information ? As i told, there is not muc hresearch on ketosis, most of the research dates decades ago and they're rly extreme while treating epylepsy and other mental diseases. For example they ate just fat, maybe 10% protein, no vegetables, no multivitamin...nothing just fat.....this is a unhealthy diet approach. They are unaccurate, what was the omeaga 6:3 ratio they ate ? what sources of fat ? there is no information about this and i dont think they ate coconut oil, fish oil, walnuts, almonds etc....i think that most fat sources came from vegetable oil.
A keto diet with a :1-4:1 omega 6:3 ratio is very healthy, especially for obese individuals. It should contain some wild meat, lots of green vegetables and maybe a multivitamin. There is nothing wrong with this

just type in google "ketosis and health benefits" and you'll get what you need, or low carb and health benefits...

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If you are going to advocate a certain diet, you should make yourself aware of the potential ill effects it may have on your clients.  

The following quote came from:
http://women.webmd.com/guide/high-protein-low-carbohydrate-diets

"Unhealthy metabolic state (ketosis). Low-carb diets can cause your body to go into a dangerous metabolic state called ketosis since your body burns fat instead of glucose for energy. During ketosis, the body forms substances known as ketones, which can cause organs to fail and result in gout, kidney stones, or kidney failure. Ketones can also dull a person's appetite, cause nausea and bad breath. Ketosis can be prevented by eating at least 100 grams of carbohydrates a day."

This is  not all you will find on the above website.
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Actualy there are not many studys and research on ketosis. Ketosis was used to threat epylepsy. Yes they had some problem with kidney stones but they were for years long on ketosis (extreme hardcore ketosis) . Also there are more types of keto dieting some are healthy some not, more info you can get with lyle mcdonald ketogenic diet, there you have everything about ketosis, every research and all pros an cons about ketosis ever (its free you can download it)  . I dont belive that ketosis can lead to organ failures.


Its ok, but a try could be worth :)

Im off from this topic, if somebody wnts something contacct me via private message

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Ketosis can cause organ failures and result in gout, kidney stones or kidney failure.  It's an unhealthy metabolic state and can be dangerous for those with heart or other issues.

You are basically telling me that it's my fault that I'm not losing weight because I don't eliminate gluten and dairy from my diet; you sound like my previous doctor who blamed everything on me.  My current doctor has told me NOT to eliminate gluten or dairy, as I am not allergic/intolerant to them and they are very important part of a balanced diet.

I eat very little refined sugar, opting for "natural" sugar, such as that contained in fruits and veggies.

My point, as was goolarra's, is that your kind of diet is not right for everyone.  It's not right for me
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I am a personal trainer, strength coach and have also knowledge about rehabilitation, nutrition, supplements, postural correction. i am not a doctor (yet :) ) but i am in contact with some great doctors in case that i need some information.  If i dont have succes with one of my client and i dont know what the problem could be, the first thing i'd do would be to send him to a endocrinologist to check whats going on.

In most cases, the nutrition protocol i use works well, but i had some fat-loss ressistant cases and i needed to use some harder start-ups in dieting (ketosis) to start burning adipose tissue off.

Somewhere i found the information that even eating 1 gram of a food you are intolerant you could block fat loss totaly .

Its great that you take fish oil, its a optional "supplement" (it is actionaly not a supplement) for my clients. Its one of the best investiment you can make.
Enzyme supplement with betain HCI, is optional too (and #1 reason people dont loose fat is connected with low stomach acid)
Coconut oil is optional too :) it contains MCT and is rich in lauric acid - helps with fat loss too

Its great that you follow such a lifestyle and take care what you eat. But as i said food's you are intolerant can stop fat loss. #1 Gluten , #2 Sugars, #3 Dairy products and caseine protein . Those are top 3 intolerances.

Yes, people with thyroid issues should avoid soy. General soy should be avoided, an exception would be edamame, miso, natto, naturaly fermented soy sauce and tempeh they are healthy. Non-fermented soy contains phytic acid - an antimineral. Another thing with soy are phytoestrogens, some say they are healthy some say they are not. I think that they are not a good pick, there are hunderts of better foods then soy.
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You said  "1. Remove grain and grain products, Soy, Peanuts ( i expect now that a rifle man takes me down :) ) , eat protein rich foods, vegetables, fruits, walnuts, almonts, brazil nuts...
2. Remove "standard" vegetable oils, use Coconut oil for cooking, high quality olive oil for salads
3. Add 10-15 g or ml of fish oil daily - reduces inflammation, great for cell health
4. Get a enzyme supplement or Betain HCI (i reccomend NOW FOODS) superenzymes, its a great one, or Betain HCI) - low stomach acids leads to bad bacteria accumulation, bad mineral and vitamin apsorption, etc etc
5. Glutamine for 5 days, 50 grams daily - helps with gut regeneration"

I'm sure you will be surprised to learn that while I have not removed grains from my diet, I do eat protein rich foods, vegetables, fruits, and nuts of all kinds. I do NOT eat soy because its use is not recommended for those of us with thyroid issues.

I use only coconut oil for cooking; I don't care much for the taste of olive oil, though I know it's very good you.  I take fish oil on a daily basis (doctor's orders); and I also take a super enzyme which contains Betain HCL.  

Glutamine is an amino acid and we can normally get enough in the food we eat, unless we engage in strenuous workouts, etc.  You can check the following website:
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/glutamine-000307.htm

I very rarely eat refined sugar, flour or white rice (simple carbs)

So you see, my diet is not so far from what you are advocating.

I totally agree with goolarra, in that supplementing is not always the best thing to do; all of the vitamins/minerals/enzymes/bacteria and everything else in our body must work together in order for us to feel our best.  By adding too much of one thing and not enough of another, we end up creating an entirely different compound.

Diet books are now a dime a dozen, which (again to quote goolarra) means that there is more than one way to lose weight.  Some do better on low carb, some low fat, some can eat "everything", but exercise a little and still drop pounds.  

Just because a person is a doctor, even a PhD, doesn't mean that what they advocate is based on "real science".  I have some books written by doctors, who contend that their way of doing things is based on proven fact, therefore, the only way to go; however, if you really LOOK at the studies they list, there's really nothing to support their claims.  I can write whatever I want, and make it sound impressive, but whether or not it's fact is another matter.

You've found a way of eating that has helped you, and a lot of your "clients" (are you a doctor or something?) to lose weight and that's totally awesome; however, I'd be curious to know if ALL of your clients respond to your way of doing things?  And if you  have one who does not respond, what do you do then?  

I've had doctors tell me that my weight issues are my fault because I eat too much, I eat the wrong things, I don't exercise enough -- the list goes on and on, but according to them, it's always MY fault; in their eyes, *I* have to be doing something wrong.  That isn't necessarily the case........

Everyone is different and "one size does not fit all".  


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136956 tn?1688675680
Well said :)
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There is some accurate information coming our of studies, I'm sure, but how to sift through it and find what's really based on science and what's the latest craze, fad or rainmaker?

I certainly don't think the traditional food pyramid is an appropriate tool, but just because something is "different" doesn't mean it's necessarily better.  Obviously, this approach has worked for you, and that's great.  Given the proliferation of "diet" books and the fact that there's a new one out almost daily, it's obvious that different people respond to different approaches

The fact of the matter is that nutrition is extremely complex biochemistry.  The current body of knowledge on the subject doesn't even begin to scratch the tip of the iceberg in our understanding of how elements of food interact.  This is why so often supplements fail to work. We have very little understanding of how the various compounds in foods interact, let alone what combinations of foods create.  What other elements in that mushroom that's loaded with vitamin D might enhance it's effect on your body way more than a D supplement can?

I've been on low carb diets.  I was g/f for close to a year (religiously so).  I had gone on low carb to lose weight; it didn't work for me at all.  I went on g/f for some very mild g/i symptoms.  The consequences were not good...I traded one set of g/i symptoms for another (worse).  My aim in going g/f was not weight loss, and I lost no weight while g/f.  I have always found that some element of calorie counting is imperative for me...it's always worked.

Rather than turning more to science, which apparently can be bought and sold, I think we have to get back to basics.  Eat real food...mostly plants, stay away from prepackaged/preprocessed, don't eat anything your great-grangmother (or someone's great-grandmother, somewhere in the world) wouldn't have recognized as food, get your nutrients from your food and never turn to supplements unless it's absolutely necessary.  With very little science at their disposal, cultures all over the world managed to develop cuisines that kept them healthy.  We've thrown all this out the window, replacing it with what's ostensibly "science", and analyzing micronutrients like they function in your body in a vacuum. We simply do not have enough knowledge to do this.

I'm sure the chances of an obese person having a skinfold measurement of less than 5 mm is very rare.  Does that really demonstrate a genetic intolerance of carbs (if so, please explain the science of that to me), or does it just tell us what we knew to begin with...they're obese?

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i know, there is a lot abuse in studys and that most of them are unaccurate...but there are some good ones too, not much but you can find some good stuff.
I helped myself (lost 35kg of fat mass and gained about 20kg of muscle mass, have no immune system problems - had not even a cold in the last 3-4 years) and helped a lot people with fat loss and some usual problems like blood pressure, cholesterol levels etc without drugs and thats enough for me to belive in "my theroy" (witch is based on theorys of PhD's i belive and trust like those i wrote some post before). Also i see clients of other coaches witch stick to that what they have learned in school and university (60% grains and carb, 20-25% fat, 10-15% protein - the classic "health pyramid") and in the last 3 years i didnt saw that anyone lost fat with them, while mine are all loosing fat great and improve health - this is one practical experience on different nutrition types i have and it tells me that most if not all obese people can not manage carbs well. Maybe you try, and see the difference.

Skinfold measurements help me to design proper nutrition, supplement protocol, workout and lifestyle change. For example subscapular fat skinfold measurement tells me how well a person geneticaly can tolerate carbs. In obese people chances are very low that they have there 5mm skinfold (5 or less can tolerate carbs great),
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I completely agree with some points that you have said

"What works for one will not work for another, and you simply cannot apply techniques on a one-size-fits-all basis"

"The best nutritiuonal advice of today will be replaced by contratictory advice tomorrow. "

Everyday there is something new and every person wants to prove their theory.  For me its done nothing but make me scared to eat food.  argh!
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"I agree that everybody has a right for ther opinion. But as much as i have read in the last 3 years (about 1-2 books per week about physical activity, nutrition, supplementation, healthy lifestyle,) + what i've learned at my univeristy and constantly updating with new researches gives me enough knowledge to see a correct and incorrect information."

Apparently,djole123, at the risk of sounding rude, your university education has not taught you to distinguish fact from opinion.  Medical/nutritional studies can be designed to prove anything you'd like them to prove, and despite the best design efforts, if they fail to prove your theory, the results can be quashed.  Your information is no more correct than anyone else's.  The best nutritiuonal advice of today will be replaced by contratictory advice tomorrow.

Check out this study of studies:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/8269

However, as you read it, do not make the mistake of assuming the studies you have read and embraced as fact are an exception to the findings.

What works for one will not work for another, and you simply cannot apply techniques on a one-size-fits-all basis.
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As i know, organic meat should not have added hormones. Another interesting food chain or "food store" is the "paleo store" . Made by the autor of The Paleo Diet and The Paleo Diet for Athletes (very intresting books).

I dont have enough knowledge about this condition to give you my opinion, sorry.

I think that you can get good information at the Institute of Functional Medicine (google it)

I just can give you some advice what you should try to avoid. Plastics, because they cointain chemicals called BPA. Cosmetic products witch contain paraben (can be methylparaben or so).


If i'd be you, i'd invest in books like those (i like more self education then asking doctors)

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_sq_top?ie=UTF8&keywords=endometrosis%20and%20nutrition&index=blended&pf_rd_p=1278548962&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0007133103&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=08WEENR4KB9VQ9YECPJG
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So here is another question for you. I have Endometriosis and anything that has hormones or chemicals in it I cant have. So that means I cant eat anything unless I grow it myself.

Any kind of animal/fish has hormones even if they are not added.  Even if they say food is organic, is it really?  Most standards are not 100%

So I am not supposed to have any added hormones, I have been told not to have dairy, meat, sugar, processed foods etc.. there isnt really much left to eat and its very hard to do.

Processed foods I have had no problem giving up and have not had any in years.

Dairy is hard because I love milk, red meat is hard because I love it.

My over all health is not good and I eat very healthy.  I cook everything, I don't buy frozen foods, processed foods and try to stay away from anything fermented.

I have tried the macrobiotic diet, vegan, yeast free etc.

The damage to my body is already done.  So when I see all this talk about eat this its better for you, or you shouldnt do this because of that, and that causes cancer etc etc. I get tired of hearing it all because in the end it really does not matter.  All food unless grown by yourself contains chemicals and hormones.  There is absolutely no way it can be avoided.  

I am interested on what you have to say about this as I have done nothing but research for the last 10yrs in regards to hormones and chemicals.
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Glutamine supplementation and autoimmune disease info :

http://jn.nutrition.org/content/131/9/2515S.full
http://www.diagnose-me.com/treat/T73676.html
http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcls-txt/t-prtcl-017.html


betain HCI

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Control_Autoimmune_Diseases_With_Stomach_Acid.html

Anyone suffering from, or with a history of, peptic ulcers, gastritis, and heartburn, should consult their doctor before taking betaine HCl. Furthermore, people taking drugs that can cause peptic ulcers, for example nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs), and cortisone-like drugs, should avoid betaine HCl.


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adn yea, i forgot one of the best - chicken eggs, ostrich egg (is huge :D )
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Ostrich, Wild animals meat like elk or so, Grass fed beef, Free range polutry, Non-farm raised fish, other sea animals

In form of supplements, Pea Protein is good or if you exercise Whey protein afther workout. But Foods are a better source and supplements cant replace them ;)
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So what protein do you recommend out of curiosity?
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I agree that everybody has a right for ther opinion. But as much as i have read in the last 3 years (about 1-2 books per week about physical activity, nutrition, supplementation, healthy lifestyle,) + what i've learned at my univeristy and constantly updating with new researches gives me enough knowledge to see a correct and incorrect information.

First of all Grains are not Nutritious foods, they are Economical Foods - Big Bussines -> thats why you see in the media, magazines (grains this, grains that health healht etc). When you go to a store, 90% of products are made from grains - why ? because they're healthy or because they make a lot money with it ? Grains are a new food in humans (before 10000 years it started), thats why thhere are so much gluten intolerant people.

Do you know that one slice of bread destroys 1.000.000 cells in the intestinal system ?  Such information you wont find in magazines, health shows etc...

You will often see studys like this "Dietary Fiber From grains protect from cancer, and other diseases" . The bad pice of cake of such studys is that they look just what the fiber does, but grains are not just fibers, there are other things like phytates witch bind to zinc, iron and other important minerals and doesent allow to get absorbed, gluten, etc..

Of course i get arrogant, when i see that someone with lack of knowledge about what he/she talks - but a opinion - gives advices.

I get counterattacked here, because you have accepted grains as a healthy food (like i did years ago) and it is hard to accept some totally different, unusual and new information witch is the opposite of your opinion.


@ autoimmune disease

80% of the immune system comes from the gastrointestinal system. Unhealthy GI system = weak immune system. Some things that can help are

1. Remove grain and grain products, Soy, Peanuts ( i expect now that a rifle man takes me down :) ) , eat protein rich foods, vegetables, fruits, walnuts, almonts, brazil nuts...
2. Remove "standard" vegetable oils, use Coconut oil for cooking, high quality olive oil for salads
3. Add 10-15 g or ml of fish oil daily - reduces inflammation, great for cell health
4. Get a enzyme supplement or Betain HCI (i reccomend NOW FOODS) superenzymes, its a great one, or Betain HCI) - low stomach acids leads to bad bacteria accumulation, bad mineral and vitamin apsorption, etc etc
5. Glutamine for 5 days, 50 grams daily - helps with gut regeneration


@ grains and autoimmune disease
http://www.nibm.com.au/resources/cmec_autoimmune.pdf


what dr. mercola has to tell about grains
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/01/02/truth-about-eating-grains.aspx


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