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Hi, my grandmother was just diagnosed with having gallstones. Unfortunately surgery is sort of out of the question. She is very fragile. She has diabetes, she's had cancer in her breast and colon, high blood pressure, asthma, several minor heart attacks, one major heart attack, etc. If she even catches a cold she has to be taken to the hospital. She's also had a lot of operations. Are there any other treatments besides surgery that can take the gallstones away? Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.

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I agree that you should pay no attention to the answer you got from patriot.  Your grandmother is fragile and needs your tender loving care.  I'm sure the doctors will take into consideration that your grandmother is frail and will try to treat her accordingly.
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Chicken Soup and Roxnsox, you'r wrong this time!
Information that Patriot provided in this forum have been of immense help to my life. I did all the cleanses, and I am 100% better. I can still improve my health, but, when I remember that just a 3 months ago doc's wanted to cut me open while they just thought that I have gallstones ... they didn't know what was wrong.

Patriot, thank you a million! Keep-up the good work, and don't listen to those who want to put you down.

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Patriot, don't you dare to leave us! There are hundreds of people every day searching for help! There are many of us lurkers reading your every message, and we are gratefull for your messages. Both me and my DH and my daughter and many of our friends are reading your messages almost every day.  BTW, my neighbour, age 52, have been sent home to die (prostate cancer, stage 4) 2 years ago. He is still alive, thanks to diet and cleansing. So, believe what you want, but information that Patriot is sharing is life-saving! I'm also not buying anyone's claims that Earth is round, and that Earth is smaller then the Sun,  when I can see with my eyes that it is flat, and that Sun is small.  But, if I would, by some chance, be able to see things with the eyes of an astronaut, I would most likely change my perception. Shicken Soup, sometimes the only way to see and to understand certain facts of life is to experience it yourself.  Until you try cleansing  ... you really don't know what health is.  Seeing is believeing! Feeling is believeing! When you see your face get 10 years younger, your weight goes down to where you have been when you were 25, you are able to run ... Seeing is believeing!  Linda
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No Patriot, don't go. If you go, I will feel like I have to try to help people ...( and I hate typing and computers) *smile*
Just because some people here don't like you ... don't give up.
I mean.. you can't expect everyone to like you!  If you told me, just one year ago that I will be doing enema every week and liver flush every few weeks, I would ask you if you are a nuts or something?  It takes time for us "usual people" to open-up for new ideas. I though that my MD is god himself, and that he knows everything about health.  I thought that medicine is a real scince, and that they want to help us get healthy. I know better now. My MD knows only what he is allowed to know. Today, he would be the last person I would ask for help ...
"A healthy population means a dead pharmaceutical industry."
They don't want us to be healthy. Pharmaceutical industry wants people to be sick and dependant on drugs. Drug addicts! They want to earn money! A lot of money! A lot of sick people! But, not my money any more! I want to live and to be healthy!
We are with you Patriot!   JPT

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Thank you all so very much for the advice. I really appreciate it. I just got back from visiting my grandmother in the hospital and she does have gallstones. The problem is that now the doctors say that they don't think the gallstones is what's causing all the problems. They saw something else next to the galbladder. Tomorrow they will be putting a small camera down her throat (I don't know what that's called). Well, thank you all very much. If anyone wants to write anymore messages they can. I will be checking this sight daily.

*To Patriot*
Thank you also for your advice. I am sure you are a very nice person. Unfortunately, the doctor you suggested is under investigation. She is considered a "Quack". I checked it out my self. Thank you anyway for your concern and advice. I really appreciate it.

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Please don't leave this forum. If you do let me know any other site I may find you. Just because folk remedies "might" have worked a long time ago, doesn't mean they are good today. There is not one shread of scientific evidence that these folk remedies worked. Our life styles are different and there are more germs that these quackery cures can handle. I may not have alot of medical knowledge, but I have learned alot from my daughter, who is in the medical field. Ask any good expert and they will tell you what these flushes do to your digestive systems. Stay with us, quackery has never taken over science and we need compassionate people on this forum, not people that truly believe they can heal aids and cancer by flushing out toxins. A good cup of tea can do the same thing, except it will not cure all those diseases the quacks proclaim. I hope you don't leave---pray for these quacks, because they are doing more harm than help to people. I pray none of them ever dehydrate from these flushes. STAY,STAY, STAY.
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All of the advertising that patriot does is pretty bizarre. If you quiz her on any of the details, of course she can't back up what she says.
(Months ago, I tried to get details on some liver transplant patient's story from her----of course she couldn't give any-----all she does is copy & paste the rhetoric from that website.)

She depends on people to blindly follow----and not ask any detailed questions or do any research on what she recommends.

I hope you will keep coming to the board.....
Because I hate to think that this board will turn into some kind of joke (peddling **** that will give us all the great "life expectancy of 24 years" that she mentioned.) lol
"Yes....you too can live to be 24, like your ancestors.....do what they did before medical science came along......." ??

(Her arguments make no sense!)

Anyway, I hope you'll continue to come to this board.

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What ever advice is given on this forum..the person who is reading it owes it to themselves to further investigate and research the drug, or herb before sticking it in their mouths.
Like I said in an earlier post I am taking a herbal cleanser for my intestines and colon but before taking it I researched each and every ingredient and I brought the leaflet and bottle to my doctor's office on one of my visits. My stool has never looked normal in years...always loose..diahrea looking but now it is formed..a nice brown color and very clean looking.
I will not be taking these herbs forever since their are no studies done on what the long term effects some herbs have on your system. I am using it to cleanse.
But on the other side of the coin ... some doctor's really don't tell you everything about the drugs they prescribe either. Those PPI'S , Proton Pump Acid Inhibitors are not meant to be taken for a long duration. Your stomach needs the acid to absorb alot of nutrients and vitamins that are important to the health of your body. With no or little stomach acid you cannot absorb vitamin B12 which is important to your nervous system and after a while it can suffer damage and one of the signs is getting tingling in your fingers and toes.
A person should never take a pill blindly whether it is a herb or a prescribed drug...questions should be asked to your doctor and research should be done. If you don't get a detailed answer from your doctor because alot of doctor's are too brief with their answers..phone your pharmacist.
No one should leave this forum..there are always going to be a difference of opinions...just as long as everyone is told and shown ways to do research on the info themselves and talk to their doctors and open mouths and ask questions.
It is a shame we do not see Concerned Lady anymore...she left..after receiving alot of complaints about the info she was giving. I think everyone in here has the same goal..to help people but don't assume everyone who reads the advice has common sense...with the info it should always be stated to do your own research and talk it over with your doctor.
If by chance your doctor has the Iam God syndrome and acts like you are a bother...or he is much too busy or important to answer you insignificant questions or hands you a prescription without a word about what it is for and why, then get yourself a new doctor.
So please don't leave...isn't a difference of opinion a healthy thing? It makes one think , ask questions and the person is made aware of both sides of the situation. We can still have a differnce of opinions and still voice it with respect and without insulting said person.
Have a great day everyone :o)
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I agree with the people asking you to stay.  Don't let someone drive you away.  I just found this forum recently.  I guess there is no moderator.  Over on Webmd message boards they have moderators and keep things quite professional, sometimes even deleting posts that are rude or bizarre.  Chicken soup, why not post there too?  Please don't leave here, we need your input.
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virgo57 you said it right! I would have choosen the same words. My words. Can't you people grow up! This forum should be a place where everyone should feel welcome to share his/her experience with whatever works ... not only people who choose mainstream meds, which we all know carry many possible side efects. Everyone should have the right to share his/her story ... without being constantly attacked.   Those of you who like to attack others, you have to allow people to have different opinion, without making war with them.  You don't have to jump on every single message posted by Patriot. Allow people to have different opinion then your own. On every single forum I've been on, people argue about alternative/mainstream, and no one have ever prooved anything.. And In the end, there is only our own experience that matter, and nothing else.  No statistic, no research, no study can replace your own experience.  Nothing can protect you from yourself. If you do nothing, things may go bad. If you choose to trust to your doc, things can go bad and if you choose to trust to alternatives, things can go bad. No choice is better or worst apriori. I have fixed some of my problems with meds, and some problems with alternatives. I choose what works for me, I don't care if there is scientific backup or not.  
Allow other people to think different.  Think again, before attacking anyones opinion.

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I am 57 year old family man running a small farm and also holding down a full time job in IT.  health is a very important part of my life, and I take it very seriously.

Two years ago my wife was diagnosed with a severe gallstone problem.  Her ultrasound showed lots of stones the size of hazel nuts.  One look at the utlrasound pics her doctor lifted the phone to call the hospital to check my wife in for early surgery.  My wife had been reading Dr Clark's book for some time.  She told her med doctor to hold that call.  She came home and put herself through two liver cleanses.  The second one, we both counted the huge stones that came out in the toilet.  

I am no crank.  I saw it with my own eyes.  She has been free ever since of the pain that used to rack her.

I repeat.  This is real.  I have no alliance to Dr Clark.  I am a highly intelligent man, and I saw this cure with my own eyes.  

I have to say in defence of Hulda Clark going to Mexico, that obviously if she is outlawed in the USA, where can she parctice, for heaven's sake?  OK she is not an MD, but she has a background of research cell biology that would leave any MD gasping.  

If Doctors and others find her cancer theories strange, I would just like all of them to look at what we have in the first world - one in 9 women getting breast cancer.  Billions of dollars spent on treatments when the doctors do not know what the heck causes it.  It is a farce.  It really is.

And if an oncologist loses a patient, which they must lose many, are they hounded by the law.  Of course not.  

I have to add that in the case of the patient mentioned here, I would tread softly because of her frailty.  

But there is no doubt in my mind that Hulda Clark's liver cleanse works.  I'll also add that my lovely daughter had her gall bladder removed at 23.  If I'd have known what I know now she would still have a gall bladder.  My wife at a considerably more advanced age, 52, was cured and retains a healthy gall bladder.
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Tikouka, have you done Liver Flush yourself?
Your wife? have she repeated it few more times, or she just stopped after the second one?  Of course liver flush is a real cure, I have had great results, my health is million times better. Sexually, I am like when I was 30 LOL! Only some people in this forum prefer to call it snake oil, they don't know what they are talking about.  They are brain-washed into believeing that everything alternative is quackery ...  From what I have read, it is  good to do maintenance cleanse every 3 -6 months, but first you should come to the point where liver is clean - no stones. I still didn't come to that point, but number of stones id going down with each cleanse ...  and I don't think I can be healthier then this ...
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I think that JPT is Patriot.  They make the same typos and have the same style.
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Come on now...aren't we getting a little ridiculous now. Patriot is assuming another identity? Pretty soon you will hold this person responsible for the bad things that happen in the news, or the bad weather we are experiencing.
Please let's all get along and have respect for each other even if you don't agree with this person's suggestions. You have the ability to post under something you don't agree with and give the reader another option from your own experience without attacking anyone. There are pros and cons with the medicines you get from a doctor and alternative herbal productives. No one has the right to make a choice for the reader and say.. this idea is no good..try mine. It would be like following the person while doing their groceries or while they are in the drug store and say..nope don't pick that one...I have a bad feeling about that one...put it back and try what I think is right. Every one is entitled to hear both sides and make their own evaluations.
I really don't like take any pills, whether it be from the doctor or health store, but I ask questions, do my research, phone pharmacists, even after asking my doctor I still do all of these things. The only way to protect yourself is by being informed and hearing all options and experiences, because the ultimate choice is made by the consumer. Consumers go out and shop every day and make their own choices, maybe not the choices you would make but everyone is an individual and will make the decision on what they think is best for them.
So disagree if you will but don't attack the person personally and become insulting.You are free to give another option but remember we are adults and not name calling students on a play ground.
I wish everyone a great day,.,enjoy the weekend :o)
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Is JPT a new poster?  I think you are right, it is patriot.
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If there is a moderator, or someone in charge, they might be able to check IP addresses to  verify.
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She probably has several different email addresses and names!!!  Wish I had that much free time, lol!!!!
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I have only been here for about 10 mths and have learned quite a bit of info that I have taken to my surgeon. Could someone give me the recipe or instructions for the liver flush? I want to check it out for myself from my surgeon. My surgeon is a very dedicated surgeon. When his sister died from breast cancer, he became a certified breast surgeon and has helped alot of women. He is truly a "Santa Claus" doctor. He has gone to Mexico and did free surgery to the less fortunate. He has an unremarkable doctor/patient relationship and he treats the entire person, not just the illness. I trust him enough that he will be able to check this liver flush out for me. I do not that taken herbal laxatives is not a good thing---three gastro doctors said it. You can dehydrate from this. Please give me the instructions for this flush. Thanks, Pat---I'm not very good with computers, so please don't send me to other web-sites-I've tried and I couldn't get there.
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I personally did one cleanse after reading, researching and knowing myself that I may not have any blockage or rupture in my intestine. I didn't know of Patriot and this site. I find this site affer looking for info about TWISTED COLON. Anyway, the cleanse only take extra virgin olive oil, Epsom salts, lemons or grapefruit, and WATER! no herb at all. and follow the instructions. I hope all your guys don't mind that I copy extra material here including bibliography.

Liver cleanse - Gallbladder cleanse - Liver flush
Excerpt from the book:

"Cleansing the liver of gallstones dramatically improves digestion, which is the basis of your whole health. You can expect your allergies to disappear, too, more with each cleanse you do! Incredibly, it also eliminates shoulder, upper arm, and upper back pain. You have more energy and increased sense of well being.

It is the job of the liver to make bile, 1 to 1.5 quarts in a day! The liver is full of tubes (biliary tubing) that deliver the bile to one large tube (the common bile duct). The gallbladder is attached to the common bile duct and acts as a storage reservoir. Eating fat or protein triggers the gallbladder to squeeze itself empty after about twenty minutes, and the stored bile finishes its trip down the common bile duct to the intestine.

For many persons, including children, the biliary tubing is choked with gallstones. Some develop allergies or hives but some have no symptoms. When the gallbladder is scanned or X-rayed nothing is seen. Typically, they are not in the gallbladder. Not only that, most are too small and not calcified, a prerequisite for visibility on an X-ray. There are over half a dozen varieties of gallstones, most of which have cholesterol crystals in them. They can be black, red, white, green or tan colored. The green ones get their color from being coated with bile. Notice in the picture (pg. 545) how many have imbedded unidentified objects. Are they fluke remains? Notice how man are shaped like corks with longitudinal grooves below the tops. We can visualize the blocked bile ducts from such shapes. Other stones are composites- made of many smaller ones- showing that they regrouped in the bile ducts some time after the last cleanse.

At the very center of each stone is found a clump of bacteria, according to scientists, suggesting a dead bit of parasite might have started the stone forming.

As the stones grow and become more numerous the back pressure on the liver causes it to make less bile. Imagine the situation if your garden hose had marbles in it. Much less water would flow, which in turn would decrease the ability of the hose to squirt out the marbles. With gallstones, much less cholesterol leaves the body, and cholesterol levels rise.

Gallstones, being porous, can pick up all the bacteria, cysts, viruses and parasites that are passing through the liver. In this way "nests" of infection are formed, forever supplying the body with fresh bacteria. No stomach infection such as ulcers or intestinal bloating can be cured permanently without removing these gallstones from the liver.

cleanse you liver twice a year


You can't clean a liver with living parasites in it. You won't get out many stones, and will feel quite sick. Zap daily the week before, or get through the first three weeks of the parasite killing program before attempting a liver cleanse. If you are on a parasite maintenance program, do a high dose program the week before.
Completing the kidney cleanse before cleansing the liver is also recommended. You want your kidneys, bladder and urinary tract in top working condition so they can efficiently remove any undesirable substances incidentally absorbed from the intestine as the bile is being excreted.
Do any dental work first, if possible. Your mouth should be metal free and bacteria free (cavitations are cleaned). A toxic mouth can put a heavy load on the liver, burdening it immediately after cleansing. Eliminate that problem first for best results.


Liver cleanse and gallbladder cleanse flush NO surgery


1/2 CupOlive Oil Extra Virgin  (= 1.25 dl)

1 Big grapefruit (2 small) (Or 3 lemons)

4 tablespoon EPSOM salts =  ( MgSO4 + 7H2O)

(EPSOM salts  = Magnesium Sulphate =  EPSOMITE = Magnesium Sulfate Heptahydrate)

3 cups water (=750 dl)

(P.S .!! 1 cup = 250 ml = 2.5 dl = 0.25 l )


[Comment inserted by webmaster:

You can substitute 3 cups water (=750 dl) (that is used in this recipe to dissolve Epsom salt) with 3 cups freshly pressed grapefruit juice, or freshly pressed apple juice . That way you will not feel unpleasant taste of Magnesium Sulphate
( = Magnesium Sulfate = Epsom salt = MgSO4 + 7H2O) ]

[If using lemon juice, do not blend juice with oil.
Drink little oil, little juice, from 2 differnt cups.

If you mix oil and juice, it may (it doesn't happens always) sligtly congell, and get a slimy consitence that is not easy to swallow.
It may become slimy.

It never happens with grapefruit juice!]


Choose a day like Saturday for the cleanse, since you will be able to rest the next day.

Take no medicines, vitamins or pills that you can do without; they could prevent success. Stop the parasite program and kidney herbs too, the day before.

Eat a no-fat breakfast and lunch such as cooked cereal with fruit, fruit juice, bread and preserves or honey (no butter or milk), baked potato or other vegetables with salt only. This allows the bile to build up and develop pressure in the liver. Higher pressure pushes out more stones.

2:00 PM.

Do not eat or drink after 2 o'clock. If you break this rule you could feel quite ill later.

Get your Epsom salts ready. Mix 4 tbs. in 3 cups water and pour this into a jar.

[ You can substitute 3 cups water with 3 cups freshly pressed grapefruit juice, or freshly pressed apple juice .]

This makes four servings, 3/4 cup each. Set the jar in the refrigerator to get ice cold (this is for convenience and taste only).

6:00 PM.

Drink one serving (3/4 cup) of the ice cold Epsom salts. If you did not prepare this ahead of time, do it right now. You may also add 1/8 tsp. vitamin C powdered to improve the taste. You may also drink a few mouthfuls of water afterwards or rinse your mouth. Get the olive and grapefruit out to warm up.

8:00 PM.

Repeat by drinking another 3/4 cup of Epsom salts. You haven't eaten since two o'clock, but you won't feel hungry. Get your bedtime chores done. The timing is critical for success; don't be more than 10 minutes early or late.

9:45 PM.

Pour 1/2 cup (measured) olive oil into the pint jar. Squeeze the grapefruit by hand into the measuring cup. Remove pulp with fork. You should have at least 1/2 cup, more (up to 3/4 cup) is best. You may top it up with lemonade. Add this to the olive oil. Close the jar tightly with the lid and shake hard until watery (only fresh grapefruit does this).

Now visit the bathroom one or more times, even it makes you late for your ten o'clock drink. Don't be more than 15 minutes late.

10:00 PM.

Drink the potion you have mixed. Take 4 ornithine capsules with the first sips to make sure you will sleep through the night. Take 8 if you already suffer from insomnia. Drinking through a large plastic straw helps it go down easier. [HPS editors note- don't, just stomach the terrible taste...and it is horrendous- be forewarned...but that's part of the cleanse, you can deal with it just like we have]. Take it to your bedside if you want, but drink it standing up. Get it down within 5 minutes (fifteen minutes for very elderly or weak persons).

Lie down immediately. You might fail to get stones out if you don't. The sooner you lie down the more stones you will get out. Be ready for bed ahead of time. Don't clean up the kitchen. As soon as the drink is down walk to your bed and lie down flat on your back with your head up high on the pillow. Try to think about what is happening in the liver. Try to keep perfectly still for at least 20 minutes. You may feel a train of stones traveling along the bile ducts like marbles. There is no pain because the bile duct valves are open (thank you Epsom salts!). Go to sleep. You may fail to get stones out if you don't

Next morning. Upon awakening take your third dose of Epsom salts. If you have indigestion or nausea wait unit it is gone before drinking the Epsom salts. You may go back to bed. Don't take this potion before 6:00 AM.

2 hours later.

Take your fourth (the last) dose of Epsom salts. Drink 3/4 cups of the mixture. You may go back to bed.

After 2 more hours you may eat. Start with fresh fruit juice. Half an hour later eat fruit. One hour later you may eat regular food but keep it light. By supper you should feel recovered.

How well did you do?

Expect diarrhea in the morning. Use a flashlight to look for gallstones in the toilet with the bowel movement. Look for the green kind since this is proof that they are genuine gallstones, not food residue. Only bile from the liver is pea green. The bowel movement sinks but gallstones float because of the cholesterol inside. Count them all roughly, whether tan or green. You will need to total 2,000 stones before the liver is clean enough to rid you of allergies or bursitis or upper back pains permanently. The first cleanse may rid you of them for a few days, but as the stones from the rear travel forward, they give you the same symptoms again. You may repeat cleanses at two week intervals. Never cleanse when you are ill. [HPS editors note: I started passing chaff through normal bowel movements after my 4th colon cleansing fast, approximately after a total of 4x14= 56 days of total colon cleansing within 9 months. The chaff continued in normal bowel movements for 8 months! Thousands of tiny stones, looked like small popcorn and small bee pollen granules, others looked like moth wings. Sometime I would drop at one bowel movement 50-100 pea size stones that would float in the water. It was truly an experience. Almost daily for 8 months! When I did my first Dr. Clark's liver cleanse I immediately dropped over 200 pea size green and tan stones, and when I examined them I was shocked. They crushed in my fingers and what I found was pure fat, pure cholesterol. Can you imagine hundred of them. Also in my second liver cleanse I had the same experience].

Sometimes, the bile ducts are full of cholesterol crystals that did not form into round stones. They appear as a "chaff" floating on top of the toilet bowl water. It may be tan colored, harboring millions of tiny white crystals. cleansing this chaff is just as important as purging the stones.

How safe is the liver cleanse? It is very safe. My opinion is based on over 500 cases, including many persons in their seventies and eighties. None went to the hospital; none even reported pain. However it can make you feel quite ill for one or two days afterwards, although in every one of these cases the maintenance parasite program had been neglected. This is why the instructions direct you to complete the parasite and kidney rinse program first.

This procedure contradicts many modern medical viewpoints. Gallstones are thought to be formed in the gallbladder, not the liver. They are though to be few, not thousands. They are not linked to pains other than gallbladder attacks. It is easy to understand why this thought: by the time you have acute pain attacks, some stones are in the gallbladder, are big enough and sufficiently calcified to see on X-ray, and have caused inflammation there. When the gallbladder is removed the acute attacks are gone, but the bursitis and other pains and digestive problems remain.

The truth is self-evident. People who have had their gallbladder removed surgically still get plenty of green, bile coated stones, and anyone who cares to dissect their stones can see that the concentric circles and crystals of cholesterol match textbook pictures of "gallstones" exactly."


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You can substitute 3 cups water (=750 dl) with 3 cups freshly pressed grapefruit juice, or freshly pressed apple juice that is used in this recipe to dissolve Epsom salt. That way you will not feel unpleasant taste of Magnesium Sulphate ( = Magnesium Sulfate = Epsom salt = MgSO4 + 7H2O) ]

Magnesium Sulfate used for liver cleanse

Chemical name: Magnesium Sulfate (Heptahydrate) or (Hydrated)

Chemical Formula: MgSO4 + 7H2O, Hydrated Magnesium Sulfate
Mineral: EPSOMITE (MgSO4 + 7H2O)
Other minerals: KIESERITE (MgSO4 + H2O, Hydrated Magnesium Sulfate)
Hexahydrite (MgSO4 + 6H2O)



Magnesium sulfate reduces striated muscle contractions and blocks peripheral neuromuscular transmission by reducing acetylcholine release at the myoneural junction. In emergency care, magnesium
sulfate is used to manage seizures associated with toxemia of pregnancy. Other uses include uterine relaxation (to inhibit contractions of premature labor), as a bronchodilator after beta-agonist and anticholinergic agents have been used, replacement therapy for magnesium deficiency, as a cathartic to reduce the absorption of poisons from the Gl tract, and in the initial therapy for convulsions. Magnesium sulfate is gaining popularity as an initial treatment in the management of various dysrhythmias, particularly torsades de pointes, and dysrhythmias secondary to a tricyclic antidepressant overdose or digitalis toxicity. The drug is also considered as a class Ila agent (probably helpful) for refractory ventricular fibrillation and ventricular tachycardia after administration of lidocaine or bretylium doses.


Magnesium sulfate is effective for severe acute asthma treated in the emergency department

Intravenous magnesium sulfate reduces the rate of hospital admissions and improves pulmonary function in patients with severe acute asthma treated in the emergency department.
Sources of funding: Canadian Association of Emergency Physicians and National Institutes of Health.


Magnesium sulfate is used to treat pre-eclampsia, eclampsia and preterm labor.

Pre-eclampsia (also known as toxemia and Pregnancy-Induced High Blood Pressure) consists of high blood pressure, protein in the urine and  edema (swelling). It can rapidly become severe pre-eclampsia, with  very high blood pressure, visual disturbances, failing kidneys and  elevated liver enzymes. In rare cases, pre-eclampsia develops into  eclampsia, where potentially fatal convulsions occur. It also can  become HELLP Syndrome (hemolysis (H), which is the breaking down of red blood cells, elevated liver enzymes (EL), and low platelet count (LP)), which is potentially fatal to both the woman and her baby or babies.


What is Ornithine?

Also indexed as: L-ornithine-L-aspartate, Ornithine-aspartate, OA

What does it do?

Ornithine, an amino acid, is manufactured by the body when another amino acid, arginine, is metabolized during the production of urea (a constituent of urine). Animal research has suggested that ornithine, along with arginine, may promote muscle-building activity in the body by increasing levels of anabolic (growth-promoting) hormones such as insulin and growth hormone. However, most human research does not support these claims at reasonable intake levels.1 2 3 One study that did demonstrate increased growth hormone with oral ornithine used very high amounts (an average of 13 grams per day) and reported many gastrointestinal side effects.4 One controlled study reported greater increases in lean body mass and strength after five weeks of intensive strength training in athletes taking 1 gram per day each of arginine and ornithine compared to a group doing the exercise but taking placebo.5 These findings require independent confirmation.

In clinical studies on people hospitalized for surgery, generalized infections, cancer, trauma, or burns, supplementation with ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate has been reported to produce several beneficial effects.6 A double-blind trial evaluated the effects of ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate supplementation in elderly people recovering from acute illnesses;7 those who took 10 grams of ornithine alpha-ketoglutarate per day for two months had marked improvement in appetite, weight gain, and quality of life compared to those taking placebo. They also had shorter recovery periods and required fewer home visits by physicians and nurses and needed fewer medications.

Ornithine aspartate has been shown to be beneficial in people with hepatic encephalopathy (brain abnormalities) due to liver cirrhosis. In a double-blind trial, people with cirrhosis and hepatic encephalopathy received either 18 grams per day of L-ornithine-L-aspartate or placebo for two weeks.8 Those taking the ornithine had significant improvements in liver function and blood tests compared to those taking placebo.

Preliminary 9 and controlled 10 studies of people with severe burns showed that supplementation with 10
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