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Pain in right side under rib

I have been having pain in my right side, middle chest area and it radiates to my left and middle of my back.  This has been going on for a year or better.  I have had so many tests.  I have Mitral Valve Prolapse also, I have been to the hospital on two occasions because of chest pain.  I have been diagnosed with diverticulitis also.  But this pain will not cease and desist.  I just recently had an EGD and a Gall Bladder scan. The EGD was normal and when they called on the Gall Bladder scan, they referred to it as basically normal.  I would like to know how precise the scan is in detecting abnormalities in the Gall Bladder and if there is an additional test that can be done to determine if the pain that I am experiencing is due to a bad Gall Bladder.  I cannot in my logical mind just say, "Okay the test prove nothing so there is nothing wrong."  There is pain and severe at most times, where it radiates across my chest to the left and the middle of my back.  I just want to know what is wrong and have it taken care of.  Is that so much to ask.  Any help would be appreciated at this time.

Thank you.

~Ellen~
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I recently was diagnosed with Diverticulosis
and IBS. I have had a pain under my lower right
rib cage and around my lower right ovary area.
The pain is further complicated due to a
pinched disk in my lower back found when I was
admitted to the hospital for four days of tests
recurrence of these problems has gone on for
one year last october and finally got to the
point I couldn't handle anymore. I also had a  
Colonoscopy-camera inserted up to see inside of
intestines and was diagnosed with the
Diverticulosis. I currently still have the
problems of constipation and then the attacks
of the Diver. It has been a nightmare that no
one seems to be able to understand. i still do
not understand why my intestine paines are on
the right side vs the left. I also had tests
for my liver, gall bladder etc etc-they are
normal. I am on medication twice a day at
present, very high fiber diet, exercise for my  
back one hr a day and walk 30mins which is two
miles each day. I cannot sit for more than 20 r
30 mins at a time due to my back and haveto
wear tennis shoes all the time. If my back is
bad it starts the stomach problems, if my
stomach acts up-my back goes which also effects
my right knee, ankle and foot due to the siatic
nerve. I am 50 I have had to resign three jobs
due to the events of this past year. I cannot
sit at a desk, work a computer etc. Good luck
to all of you-Please advise if my pains on
right are shared by anyone vs the normal left
side with these problems. Is this unusual?
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This is my last posting to this site.  I did want to let you know my outcome.  They took my gallbladder out yesterday.  It had adhesions to other organs in my abdomen.  Everytime I ate it hurt and pulled like mad and stayed irritated all the time.  I am just trusting God that I won't continue to suffer like some of you are.  My heart goes out to you!  It is so discouraging!  When I walked or stretched or things like that I could feel this pulling inside.  They told me activity shouldn't affect the way I felt, but it did.  I am up running around now one day after surgery and feeling better already.

May God touch each and every one of you with His healing hand.
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Hi Jane

Yep that
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Trascie-I cannot belivevethe medical attention yuo have been brave enough to go through.I am a woman who has always lived with men, guess problems I now remember in the years prior I must have just put behind me and forgot. When I finally got knew I had to get to the bottom line--the tests showed things I could relate to in years gone by, it took at least 2 or 4 months for me to accept it and to try to make adjustments to my life that I now know must be adheired to or the pain and worsning of my condition will happen. This has been a very unacceptable condition to my family as I am MOM and up until this time I have been able to overcome the discomfort etc of these problems. My Galbladder has always been my main thought of the problem in my adult life but proved, two times, clear-liver and ov.'s clear as well. After having to leave three jobs in the  past year that were meaningful for my 24plus years in banking and mortgage processingdue to my back giving out and the theDiv. I am at a loss.I seem to catch sicknesses easier, I always hrt under right rib cage to ovary area frount and back. Medication twice daily high fiber diet, exercise daily and can only work 4 4 or 5 hrs a day. I can only dirve , ride, sit, etc for 20 mins at a time and haveto stand up. I useto go potty to frequenly now I do not go but about once a week. No matter what I say, the doctors just say "Yes"----I guress I am suppose to understand on my own-That is how I found this internet area. Did your problems go from the lower area of your right rib cage to your ovary area from front to back and have a burning or pulling felling as if burned or scared, was your stomach blotted, did yu loose alot of weight at first and then slow downeven when you did not eat alot? I saw how many times you questioned and/or responded, did you go to a gastrologists? Please respond again even though you said you wouldn't.God be with you and a little or alot of good luck!!!Kris
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suzanne, saw your message to Jane. I am courious as of your age. I do not know if you read my message and could make a comparison to your problems. Posted 11/21. Did you gat advise form a gastrogilists? or from different types of doctors? Did you remember things that upset your stomach, or there about, in your earlier years that you never thought you would forget but somehow you did, are your pains on the ower right ide of your rib cage to yur obary area in front and back and worsened after the test you had? are you or were you over weight during this time and loose alot of weight real quick?  Did you have a time of frequient bowel movements and then still have the tearing feeling and then not go but once a week or more? Hope you are feeling better now and your mom is okay as she must wprry about you alot. I hope you will answer I am just learning my new life and am trying not to worry my 4 sons and wifes as well as my husband with my pain and confussion. My doctors just look at me and I finally figured out that they were trying to tell me this can not be reversed but can get worse. As my family is men-They just want me to be okay-that is their love, but this time mom cannot seem to meet their expections as she has always been able to do in the past. It is a very lonely feeling
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My pain was not in the ovary area at all.  I did lose both ovaries in the process last year and this spring.  Incidentally they found multiple cysts.  The pain in the right mid-rib area continued.  I lived with it until this September when chest pain and back pain came on with it and it was much worse.  It didn't matter what I ate.  Activity made it worse.  When I rested and just didn't eat I was okay.  When you eat the digestive system moves and the adhesions on my gallbladder were pulling like mad.  It felt like someone was twisting my guts sometimes.  It was usually just an ache.  One doctor took my leg and pulled it around behind my back and I hurt bad.  He said adhesions then.  No one every talked about that again until the surgery to remove the gallbladder and there were the adhesions.  We wonder if the bleeding cyst I had on my ovary leaked up into the gallbladder area and caused inflammation of the tissue there and so adhesions grew.  It is hard to say.  I can only trust God right now to complete the healing.  I asked the elders of our church to pray over me before this surgery.  I am just trusting God that it is over.  He is my only hope.  I am feeling stronger each day.  No more rib pain!  As moms it is very hard to keep on going when we are so sick.  I think we just have to do what we have to do to be better.  I pray for all of you.
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Kris

I have to say that i have not had those problems, just the pain in the URQ. What you have discribed with the bowel problems, sounds like, irritable bowel syndrome, and in spite if what every one is told, a high fiber diet does not make a scrap of diffrence to the condition. I am 34 years of age, I have lost weight but not fast.I was never considered obese, but at my worst I was 20kg's over. I am currently about 10kg's over.
This week is shaping up to be a bad one as I am fighting nausea 24hours a day, and I always seem to be very very tired. This I put down to the narcotics I am on to control the pain. I am fortunate that I have no children. But the stress of all of this is telling on my husband. Though what can one do? I suppose that one does as one can to resolve the situation.
good luck Kris

Suzanne
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Dear Suzanne,

Thank you for being such a source of comfort and encouragement to many on this forum.  I am going to do more research on SOD and search for another doctor in my insurance coverage area.  I continue to keep all of us in my thoughts and prayers.
  






















































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Suzanne-I ccan't thank you enough for responding. I know now that the IBS was responsibale for things I now remember in my younger life. I was so useto them at that time I thought everyone suffered the same or something. You are very young, no children, but in some time that seems to be quite prevelent for women of this day and time for women. I have never been one to go to the doctor except for normal yearly visits and our family GP for flues etc. It is like since Oct.98,with back problem and feling of a tearing in my ovary area, all on the right side, it has been one hing after anther. After e ospital visit I did al I was told as I noted in my last message. Thought would get back to whatever is normal--. This is the first time in m life I have not been able to ovecome problem that I had to face. I went back to Dr.s same story ad looked at me as if I should undersand everything they had told me prior.  Have not been back since. There is nothing further they can do, guess my age plays into that.  I take Levid Tabs two times a day from Gastro Dr. and was givenLONEx tabs for the seivere attacks. I did have a few that felt like labor but for the past month I only go about once a week. My right side burns all he time and I am scared to stop te medication for fear that I will have the pains of two months ago. Cannot take the chance. This thing is so upsetting and I cannot tell what helps and what makes worse. Due to that, it is very unbelievable to those that love me as a mother, wife and friend. Our youngest son is getting married 12/19 to my ? best friends daugter I don't hear from her anymore as I useto. My husband has been very supportive until we both caught the flu, He is frustraed, I understand but try not to tell hom everthing as Worry about him getting sick worring about me. ETC Etc  I do not want  to go to another Dr. evry tim yo dohy seem to take part of youGood uck tyou and again, Thank you for responding to my message. Sorry for the mistakes, did not proof rea and noted keyboard really picks up mistakes. Where or what country do you live in?-Noted weight measure calculation  



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Suzanne, I just noticed there is another Kris you have been corresponding with, sorry about the confussion. Maybe it would help if you could put Kris and/or Kris F. Hope you are doing better as well as all the people that have come into this web sight.
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I would like to know more about this superior mesenteric artery syndrome.  What is it?  What causes it?  How is it treated?  I have had problems with the right side under my ribs.  I had a hernia fixed where the gall bladder incision was, but I still have the discomfort.  Lately I have been having it on the left side too.  I am wondering if it is anything like you describe.  How did they determine what it was?  Any help you can give will be appreciated. Betty
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All of you remember it is your body and no matter if some Dr. says it is stress, or makes you feel like a hypochondriac you know your body.  I have been going through the same symptoms all of you have and It finally has been known I have Hemangioma Tumor on my Liver.  It is large now and another one is appearing on the left lobe.  Do not give up. No one is perfect.  A good Dr. will be concerned and try to the most of his ability to find out what is wrong.
Cher-- What kind of tumor does your mom have?  My e-mail is ***@**** Anyone else who has questions about this, or any information for me please e-mail me. Thanks Sandy
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Hi wanted you all to know I have been having the same paine under my right ribs cage into my back. It feel right now like something is there. I have had 4 operations in the past 7 years. Parcial Histeramie. rep.apendix. hernia and gallblader removed.
I never drank or smoked.I have had my blood tested 4 times and it come up adnormal. I have a appointment with a gastrolis Dec.3. Hope he has a answer. I have been out of work since April with legs.( to do with a blood condition ). I don't sleep good at night. Feel worn out all the time. I don't talk to friends because I feel thay don't want to hear it any more and that it in my head. I have had all the test you can think of. If you have an answer for me please let me know. you can e-mail me at ***@**** Thanks Elinor
P.S. Don't mined my spelling I'am not good with it.
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Dear Suzanne,   I am sorry to hear you are in so much pain that you have to wear the patch.  I hope your doctors will be able to help you with surgery.  I actually haven't felt that bad for the last few days.  I do have terrible heartburn at times; I can't explain it because I've been taking Prevacid for 3 weeks now and from what I understand that should take care of the heartburn. The pain in my upper right quadrant isn't so severe.  By the way, I never got the lanacane shot; my doctor's office cancelled my appointment because he had an emergency surgery.  I might wait and bide my time.  I've spoken to a lady who had her gallbladder out and still had pain for 2 and a half monthes. Maybe I'm a slow healer ???  Nevertheless, I'm going to research Hemangioma, as you mentioned.  Take care and let me know how you're doing.  Jane
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Hi to all!

I am so glad I found this site and after reading all your comments I now don't feel like I am going crazy.  I too have URQ pain going on 8 years.  I finally had a CCK test done and my doc said it was normal.  He said it was probably stress   HA!!
The pain I feel is very real and seems to get worse when I am very tired or feeling under the weather. It is a dull ache in a particular spot just below my rib cage exactly where my gallbladder is.  Sometimes it is very intense and sometimes just a dull nagging pain.  Sometimes it goes away for days but it always returns.  I don't know where to turn for answers. Please lend me your thoughts.  I often think my liver will fail and have a beautiful 2 year old daughter I want to see grow up.  I wish there was someone out there that could figure this out so I could get on with a "normal" life.  I am 37 years old and only feel it will get worse as I age.  Other than this I have been in perfect health my entire life.  I am a social drinker but don't think this is exasurbating my condition as I see no difference if I do not drink anything.  There must be some type of medication available to ease the pain.  I did have Mononucleosis last July that affected my liver function and enzymes.  I also became jaundiced.  My doctor said that is not common but is possible with mono.  All my liver tests were back to normal after a few months.  If anyone has any feedback I would welcome it with open arms.  Oh yeah, the area where I feel the pain sometimes feels very tight like something is pulling on something inside.  No doubt something is up but what could it be and why can't anyone figure it out?  Thanks for listening !!!
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JANE, KRIS, PAT AND KRIS

HI

The last two weeks have been, interesting to say the least. last night I went out socially for the first time in 6 months,actually felt like it. I had a severe case of gastrointestinitis (vomiting& runny stools) for 5 days, no amount of maxalon (a drug used here to combat severe nausea) helped at all. Started to feel better finally on saturday last. I have had the Fentonyl patch off for 2weeks now, and have been coping with the Tramal.
I have now got to survive the next week without any of pain killers as I go for the Memnometry on the 15th Dec and my specialist in Sydney has advised that they will cloud the readings, gee I can tell you I'm looking forward to the next week. My husband and I have named the problem ODDI, he asks each day how Oddi is, I suppose it gives us some thing to laugh about.
I have been able to compleate a full week at work, so things are looking up.
I'll post further after the 15th
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Suzanne,  What ever happened ???  How did it go on the 15th ??  I've been thinking of you.  Please post and update me.  I hope things are better.   Jane
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I forgot to tell you...I'm 27 years old, not overweight (practically underweight), it's been going on for over a year now, I still have my gallbladder, and have nausia and vomit a lot-especially if I try to go out and have a few drinks.  I was recently hospitalized overnight for vomiting but they still don't know what's causing it.  (See above message...this is a continuation of my first message.)
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Oh My Gosh!!  Finally I find somewhere where almost EVERYONE understands what's wrong with me.  I can't believe I'm saying this, but it's the same old story...URQ pain under my rib in the same spot.  It comes and goes and nothing seems to trigger it.  Sometimes it's very dull and other times it feels more like someone is pulling on me from the inside.  I've had the upper GI, ultrasounds, endoscopy, blood tests, and they've found nothing.  "It's probably IBS or I should take antidepressants."  Please keep writing and telling your stories, it's not all in your head!  Any advice for me??  Merry Christmas to all........
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Count me in as another one who has URQ pain.  Have had it for 3 years.  Hida scan showed gallbladder is not functioning.  Doc sent me to surgeon to have it removed.  Surgeon says NO.  He says I have IBS.  I have constant pain around the last rib, right side, generates around to my back.  Have had problems with my arm, shoulder.  MRI of shoulder shows nothing.  Nerve conduction test shows nothing.  I am now beginning to believe my arm/shoulder pain is gallbladder related.  After reading all these posings, I am going to try the surgeon one last time.  I am a 38 year old mother of 3 boys and I do not have time to be in all this pain and worrying if I have something really bad wrong.  Has anyone else expereienced shoulder/arm pain with their URQ pain or gallbladder??
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HI GUYS:
We all seem to be in the same boat or at least the same bay.
Rhonda yes I do have upper shoulder pain along w/ the URQ pain.
The surgeon does not want to operate? You sound like you are
also on a roller-coaster!!! Emily its not in your head, I have
heard that too, anti- depressants are going to relieve our pain?
Well than I'll buy stocks for it!! HAHA. Rhonda does the Hida-
scan hurt? How long does it take? Do any of you find that cafeine
aggravates your syptoms? What about exercise? My e-mail address
is   ***@****    Please write me, anyone on this
list, maybe we can help each other.   Thanx...Georgie
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Rhonda,  I have spent nearly the last year with upper right quadrant pain; it changes at times.  Sometimes it's a really sharp pain, sometimes it feels more like something is stuck under my rib and sometimes it's a burning.  It radiates up to my right breast and around to my back.  Have had awful heartburn also.  Finally a surgeon did a hide-a-scan.  I had a refraction rate of 9.  What was yours ??  Supposedly under a 35 means it's not working correctly.  Anyway, had my gallbladder out.  Many of my symptoms cleared up within 6 weeks.  I finally had the energy to get out of bed to get my girls off to school.....ages 10 & 13.  I know what you mean about not having the time to be sick !!
I still however have the URQ pain that radiates.  I don't know what to tell you.  Certainly having my gallbladder out cleared up alot of my problems, however I still have that pain.  A GI thinks its imflamed cartiledge.  Could be...I had no stones, but the gallbladder was imflamed and full of scar tissue.  I'm going in to my surgeon soon for a shot of Lanacane.  It's like a novacane to numb the area.  Supposedly if the pain goes away, then we can be certain it's imflammation. I'm curious as to why the doctor said you have IBS.  I've sometimes wondered that myself. Are you gassy at all?  P.S.  George, sorry to say that my hide-a-scan hurt ALOT. But it's bearable.   Good health to all of you. Jane
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Jane:  Thanks for the reply.  I have the same pain as you, but I don't have the heartburn.  The right breast will also hurt along with the shoulder and arm.  The fraction rate on my report shows a 1%.  The diagnosis for IBS was because I have anywhere from  2 to 7 BM's each morning. Gassy too.  Surgeon put me on Librax and said it helps to relax the stomach muscles and told me to start drinking metamucil.  It did help but I have not taken anything in over a year.  I just don't want to have to take drugs for it all the time.  It's just frustrating when one doctor says take it out and the surgeon says no.  He says because of the IBS, he's afraid I will get sicker.  The gastro says the BM's  and gas are a part of the gallbladder problem.  The surgeon says it is not.  So what the heck do you do.  I have gone back to drinking Citrucel this week and it seems to have helped the gas and BM.  I go to the orthopedic next week for the recheck of the arm/shoulder pain and I am going to bring all this gallbladder stuff to his attention.  I never dreamed all the pain in my arm could be from the gallbladder.  Thanks to all.
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Dear Jane and other URQ sufferers,

After I had my gall bladder out to relieve pain, I too still was in pain.  It still felt like my gall bladder was still there.  We went the route of inflammed cartilige also but after several years and many anti-inflammatories I have just about given up.  IF you find out anything about this pain, please post it.  Thanks.
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Went back to the doc today.  It is highly possible that my shoulder/arm pain is from the gallbladder.  Ive been drinking Citrucel  once or twice a day and I have not had any pain in the URQ or shouler/arm area,  since I started drinking it over a week ago.  The doc says when I have pain to call his office and come in to see him when I have the pain.  The Citrucel is really making a difference in the way my right side feels.  May be I have cured myself, since none of the doctor's cant.!!!  Good luck to all.
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Man I can't beleive all the people with the same symptoms!!  For about the past six months I have been having pain under and below my right rib cage.  When I work out or cough alot from a cold the pain get worse.  I drink socially and sometime to much I think, because after I drink the pain is back like a bad night mare.  I feel like I have a ball under my ribs.  When I go to sleep at night my husband can't put his arm around me the pressure gets to unbearable.  Weeks go by and I don't have the pain, but when it comes its hurts bad.  Aching dull sometimes sharp.  Off and on like a heart beat.  What is this? I can't stand it.  I am 35 white and the mother of two great kids.  I get scared sometimes that I might have a liver problem??  I have alos suffered from heartburn and indigetstion all my life.  I tested positive for H-pilori when I was 14. The doc has treated me 3 different times with 3 different approaches and nothing has worked.  The last time was pepto and biaixan, the antibiotic hurt me worse than my stomach did so I never finished the treatment.  But this pain under my rib is driving me crazy.  Any comments??
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I have had some of the same symptoms for over a year and a half now.  Going for an endoscopy Tues 1/18/00.  Diagnosed with H.Pylori in 1996.  Recently diagnosed with GERD and a slight hiatal hernia.  Pain in chest, midback and right shoulder still persists.  Chronic heartburn.  Taking Propulsid, Zantac,and Carafate.  Talked to others in forum and they seem to think that I have symptoms of Barrett's Esophagus.  Will find out Tuesday.  Has anyone tried an herbal digestive enzyme called Bromelain?  I stopped taking all medications above and started taking 2 Bromelain with every meal and most of my pain has disappeared.  Hope this might help some of you.  Good luck with your findings.  All the other doctors tell me that it is stress and try to put me on anti-depressants!  the only reason that I am depressed is because of the way these doctors keep treating me as if all of this is in my head!  Do they think that we enjoy going to all of these appts and getting poked at all the time and answering the same questions over and over again?!
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I am a 32 year old woman who, up to this past year, has been healthy my whole life.  I have stuggled constantly with my weight, but always felt good with energy to spare.  I had a baby in March of 1999 with a rather uneventful pregnancy until 32 weeks, was then diagnosed with pre-eclampsia which developed into HELLP Syndrome by 34 weeks.  The baby was immediately delivered.  I was supposed to "bounce back" after the baby was delivered and for the most part I did until June 99 when I began having upper quadrant pain and nausea.  After many tests, they found gall stones.  July 99 I had my gall bladder removed with promises that I would "be back to my old self."  What a joke!  My URQ pain is worse now and the pain involves my right shoulder and arm.  I have had an upper GI, CT scans, sonogram, ERCP, and a liver biopsy (because my LFT's have been elevated - AST, ALT, and GGT)  Thankfully, all tests have come back normal except the liver biopsy says" non-specific liver inflammation."
My Primary Physician tells me not to worry, it's stress, it's my imagination, see a pshycologist.  I want to slap him!!  I have finally seen a GI specialist out of my area.  He wants to do a biliary scintography to help determine whether I have SOD.  If so, He will do an ERCP and cut my sphincter of Oddi.  I would like to hear from anyone who might have any thoughts  on my case.  I wish all of you health and answers to your problems.  I know how frustrating it is to see doctor after docter only to find no answers!
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This is so unusual to hear many of the systems that I am going through.  My pain is on the right side just below the rib cage. The pain is sharp at times and if I in one position to long I can feel it worse.  Sitting is the worse.  I like to lean back in the chair and am always pressing on my libs.  You can't believe how everyone tells me to stop.  My pain stometimes goes to my back should blade.  But the kicker is that across the top of my abdomen is feels like needles sticking in me.  It remines me when my foot goes to sleep and is numb.  I had my gallblader out since 1989.  Tests ran show everything is okay.  I am told I may have a hernia but the test showed none. I am 50 years old and in pretty good shape and have had this pain for several months.  Will be having a CATS scan according to my doctor and wife.  All my pains go away if I keep pressure on the top portion of my abdomen. Any other males have similar symptoms and found good results from something?
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Hi all and big HI to JANE

As they say in the Classics "I'm back"

first of all sorry it took so long for me to post my updated but I have just got the test results back on Tuesday 25/1/00.

Well the news is as suspected I have SOD. The next option is now the surgery and to this end i am off the see my Surgeon on the 8/2/00 to oganise that.
Christmas was ok not a lot of pain and i was abe to cope with the drugs.
The interesting thing was that during this whole time I did not show the classic signes of SOD in regard to the liver function test.
please everyone do not be afraid of your gp's or speciaists, you know what your problem is. I have to say that my specialist is a lot more sympathetic to me now.

Jane

How are you? has the pain Settled any ??


take care  

Suzanne





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Hello Everybody

I've been having urq for two years now and have had all the tests. I've seen a GI and a Kidney doc. Everything comes back normal. I've been on anti inflammatory meds, pain meds of all sorts. Nothing has seem to help. I see the doc every few weeks I'm am at the point of exhaustion due to the pain.  I feel like noone seems to understand and that the docs don't believe me. I'd appreiciate any info you guys can give.
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Very interesting comments and tests.  I had my gall bladder removed three years ago, due to low test factors (13% function) because of the pain that is being described.  Three years later, the same pain, the same places, only more intense.  All tests are negative and of course, the doctors don't know what to do or say. It would be very interesting to get to the bottom of the cause, but I am not sure that such is going to happen.  I have tried all sorts of treatments, from physical therapy, to accupuncture, and none work.  Medications have the side effects (like hydrocodone) and while they temporarily treat the pain, they do not resolve the problem.  I am anxiously awaiting someone getting a "good" doctor and finding the cause and cure!!!!  Bruce Pehrson, Farmington, Utah.  ***@****
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I have had RQ pain for a couple of years now, and as I read all your posts, it seems possible that I may never get an answer to its cause.  The pain is not a strong or sharp pain but more of a bothersom discomfort feeling.  Sort of like there is too much 'stuff' squeezed into the area or a pain feeling similar to when you push on a bruise (if that makes sense).  I do notice that sometimes a fatty meal of an few alcholic drinks will make it worse (I am not a drinker though-- mabey twice a month).  It will hurt the most for 3 or 4 days after some drinks and then be less noticeable (but still there)after a few days.  I have mentioned this all to my MD on numerous occasions. Liver tests and ultra sounds have been normal, so he suspects IBS.  I feel that it may be a fatty liver or a gall bladder inflammation, but he always says no. I also have some gastic problems and intestinal problems.
I guess the bottom line is that I understand what all you are going through and also I wish like you all do, that I could get a definitive answer.  Please feel free to e-mail me at ***@**** if you have any thoughts or would like to discuss anything like this.
Take care & good luck,,,,,Christopher
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i wount advice about the management of acute cholecystitis
the position of golden time of surgery from the onest of syptoms
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It is so so sad to learn of everyone who has suffered so greatly and yet still no clearly defined answer as to why we are afflicted with this medical mystery/misery. Let alone a cure!

Treating specialists and their studious colleagues mean well and Modern Medical Technology has saved many I'm sure. Still we appear to be proven a medical nightmare to all who dare treat us.

I have suffer twenty years of intermitent pain in the upper right quaderant of the abdomin not to mention the referals, diaognosis, second opinions, medications, x-rays, therapists, pyschologists and psychiatrists etc.... and everyone else who can make money out this pot of gold.

Here is my gift to you all DON'T GIVE UP!!! Quality of life may well be down but your are alive. And thank you for taking the time to share your personal experinces so we can all learn and find a cure or aleast minimise the pain swiftly together. I will post more interesting things to consider soon.
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It's so strange to hear of so many with pain in their sides around the rib area. I too have experienced this pain for about a year and a half. I've had many tests and of course all show normal. I've imagined everthing from liver cancer and cancer of the pancreas to just plain gallbladder disease. It's very frightening to have this pain and have no answers. I guess it is somewhat comforting to know that others have experienced the same. You begin to wonder after a while if it's all in your head. The pain is very real though. Your family begins to think you are just a constant complainer. I too just want answers like the rest of you. I have not had the test where they shoot dye into you and look at your gallbladder that way. I'm considering trying a different Dr. although i have been very happy with my current one in the past. I guess because nothing has shown up so far he may be a puzzled as i. Well i just wanted to post my comments and to say good luck to you all.
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Is this BB still active?
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I'am at my wits end, let me start from the beginning. I'am a 38 year old female with pain under my right rib cage. I had my uterus and 1 ovary removed in 1994 from cysts they saved the other ovary by taking the cysts off. Now I was left with 1 ovary, but I did not have to take hormons. April 1999 I had to have the other ovary removed the cyst had grown so big it grew into my intestine, they took about 4 inches off.  I was ok for a couple of months, now I have bad pain under my rib on the right side. I did not have this before the surgery, only the pain in the lower part of my stomach from the cyst which left after the surgery.  

I went back to the doctor & he sent me back to the doctor who did the colin surgery. You know, I didnot even know the intestine was part of the colin.  When I saw the nurse she looked up my file and said, oh yes, you are the one who had the colin surgery, I WAS SHOCKED! All I could think about was cancer of the colin and prayed to god that was not it. They did tests after tests and all came back negative, but I am still in pain, like something is pinching me in the side constantly. I am so scared, who will take care of my family, my grandchild.

If there is something wrong, I would like to catch it before it gets out of hand, but everyone is telling me my test are normal, that could not be with all this pain. But, If it is some kind of cancer, god I would like to catch it before it kills me.
I can't wear clothes on my stomach like pants, stocking,jeans. I get chest pains where they stop my breath, it feels like charlie horses in my side sometimes. One night it had me crawling on the floor like a snake the pain was so bad. Can someone please help me, give me some guidence.

Thanks for listening,

Connie.
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I have similar pain but on my left side under the ribs -- so far for just over 3 months now.  Have had multiple tests but all come back normal, too.  Stress and worry definitely exacerbate things.My suggestions is to keep asking your doctor for more tests.  I'm beginning to think this kind of thing might be a form of IBS. Clothing ittitated my abdomen, too, so I know what that is like. Not on ly did it hurt inside but my skin became ultra sensitive. Also, for those of you who've had surgery in the past, I've heard adhesions/scar tissue can cause this kind of pain.
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Hi to everyone and HI SUZANNE !!!!

Am I understanding right that you found out for sure it's ODDI in January and have to wait until August to fix it ???  That seems like a long time to wait.  You must be so relieved, though, to finally be diagnosed.  All the best to you; hope everything goes well.
I have found by trial and error that if I drink psyllium fiber once a day (yuk!), my pain subsides a bit and my stomach isn't as bloated.  I did have an MRCP (mri) done a few weeks ago to look at my ducts, which of course showed everything normal.  My new gastro, however, is sympathetic to my complaints and has referred me to a super-specialist gastro in Boston...about an hour away, so I'm excited about that.  Did you have an MRCP done to diagnose your oddi problem ?  My symptoms now are, of course the weird feeling in my URQ, constipation, bloating, some heartburn and a sore throat !  Luckily I am able to get to work and function very well most of the time.  I am a bit concerned about colon cancer, though, as I've been doing too much reading on the web !!!!  I'm a bit anxious about what's wrong, which may explain my inability at times to catch my breath;  I gasp at times and feel like I can't get a full breath.  I've been told it's anxiety.  That doesn't suprise me at all !  Had a stress test done to rule out heart problems !
Anyway, it was so nice to read your posting.  Glad to hear that you've finally discovered what's wrong.  I REALLY hope things go well for you.  Write back; I'll check in a few days.

PAT:  Has your URQ pain ever gone away ?  Do you have the same symptoms as me ?
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after reading all that i figured i might as well post too.

29-year-old healthy, active female
ruq pain - almost 7 months now
constant ache - sometimes shooting - sometimes extreme shooting from back to front.
epsiodes of extreme pain - pain on the step, pain in abdomen when voiding.  only way to relieve is to be completely still.
have been hospitalized.
weight loss - 20 lbs in one month - 5 back now.
loss of appetite
seizure/suspected tia (mini stroke)
middle finger left hand turns waxy white
noticed middle toe left foot did it last night.
hyperhidrosis - controlled with drysol.
night sweats
sleep apnea - wake up gasping for air in the night.  heart racing.
hiccups daily
yes - i have the shoulder pain too.  thought it must be from hockey, goalie (although i had taken some time off).
pain right hip - feels like a bruise but gets worse instead of better.  had lasted a month now.  at times i can't lie on that side.  gp says bursitis.
hives on trunk of my body.
toothache that moved from upper molar to lower to opposite side of face and back to start, all within 45 minutes then gone.
my breasts are growing and my hair is curling.  how's that for neat?
the past few days i have had a shooting pain on the left side of my head.  not a headache.  just sharp shooting pain, then  nothing.
i've had all the same tests that are mentioned in previous postings, although no mri, hida scan or ercp (don't know that one).
would be interested in any input.
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Hi everyone,

I have been searching the internet looking for an answer to my problem.  Noone else seems to be able to tell me what the problem is, and I'm tired of trying to diagnose myself. I may not be a doctor, but I do know my own body and I'm too young to be going through so much pain and feeling like an old woman.  I'm having right flank pain, daily.  Some days are worse than others, but there isn't one day that goes by that I don't have to deal with the pain. I'm 34 and have had numerous surgeries.  About 5 yrs. ago I had a hysterectomy/appendectomy with 1 ovary removed due to cervical cancer and endometriosis.  Since that time, I've had 5 surgeries to remove cysts attached to my back on either side of the spinal cord, on the remaining ovary, and a vulvar tumor.  The pain that I'm experiencing is on my right side, sort of "wrapped around" to the back.  The ovary I have left is on the right.  I keep associating the pain with that ovary.  However, my GYN says that everything is normal concerning the ovary.  Okay, so I go to my regular MD....after ruling out a kidney infection or gull bladder, we're now onto the bowels.  Today I have an appt. with a bowel specialist.  Could it be Colitis, Diverticulitis, or something that I can't come up with the lingo for since I'm not a doctor.  I sound angry, I guess I am.  I've been dealing with this for almost 4 1/2 yrs. now and it just progressively gets worse.  The first time I noticed this pain was 2 mos. after the hysterectomy.  I can't help thinking it has something to do with that surgery.  I guess it could be scar tissue or lesions.  I just don't know, but I've got to do something to get me through this pain until I have an answer and can have it taken care of.  If anyone has any suggestions, please contact me at ***@****.  Sorry to use this as a "sounding board", but it feels good to vent a little.
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I'm diabetic and everything wrwong with me is always blamed on that. All I know is I still have right side pain thatt radiates to my back. I've had my gallbladder removed in 1992. This pain has been around only a few weeks but is already wearing me down. I had a blood test and a sonogram which were normal. old to take tylonol and call for more test schedules if pain continues. I printed off all notes to read later I have read some and I understand how ya'll feel.  Have a blessed Easter weekend and I'll check back with ya'll later.
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I have been experiencing the same pain,RUQ radiating around my back to my shoulder blades,especially on the R. My appetite is poor and I feel full after eating even a small meal. Im constantly nauseous and have even had some emesis of bile. I went to my PMD and he sent me for an ultrasound and CT of the abdomen and pelvis. The results showed my gallbladder was normal but that I have fatty liver. My PMD said that this condition required no treatment. I thought a liver biopsy was necessary to be certain of this diagnosis. Im not overweight,Diabetic and very rarely consume alcohol which can cause fatty liver. Needless to say I'm not satisfied with this diagnosis and intend on following up with a GI Dr. I would like to hear from anyone who's familar with this condition, Any feedack would be much appreciated.
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When I entered 'abdominal pain right side' I never expected that I would find all of the messages with MY symptoms.  I have been telling my doctor for a year about the 'dull ache, just below my ribs that radiates down to my lower abdomen.' Also, I don't knoww if this is something you all have, but by the end of the day, my abdomen becomes extremely distended.  Even though I am a small person, by 7:00 at night, I look 6 months pregnant. (I am 52, no more pregnancies for me thanks.) After a CAT scan, a barium enema, a sigmoid, an ultrasound, blood and urine tests, I don't know any more now than when I started.  I have asked my doctor to be very certain with the ultrasound, because I am scared to death that it is ovarian cancer.  He assures me that it is not.  It sounds as if most of you who describe the symptoms are convinced it is a bad gall bladder.  What test was it that confirmed the bad gall bladder?  I have Kaiser, a HMO, so getting an appointment can be difficult.  At least I can be specific when I request further testing.  Thanks to all of you.  And I hope we all get better soon.
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I have complained with severe pain in my entire upper back area my entire upper rib cage area. the pain is severe and very deep and sometimes radiates into the front of my chest and rib cage area. there are times i feel so short of breath and in such pain i can hardly walk across the room they did an ultrasound on my gallbladder which was negative. they tell me on ultra sound my liver is enlarged and my liver enzymes go from normal to mildly elevated now for ten years i also have huge burping spells which i call logger burps which are very painful. i have also had what i call rotten egg stomachs since i was a child/ the interestin part is the dr.s can"t find a reason for any of this. their only diagnosis is fibromyalgia. i also test positive for anti nuclear antibodies in my blood. i have been called neurotic etc. this hurts very much and sometimes i feel like i don't  want to live anymore because of the level of discomfort in my body and nobody listens or seems to care. something has to be wrong for a person to hurt this bad all the time and even wake up in the night because the pain and discomfort is so bad it wakes you up and you pace the floor all night crying and hoping some one some day will find out what is wrong and fix it. thanks for listening, janet
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I have complained with severe pain in my entire upper back area my entire upper rib cage area. the pain is severe and very deep and sometimes radiates into the front of my chest and rib cage area. there are times i feel so short of breath and in such pain i can hardly walk across the room they did an ultrasound on my gallbladder which was negative. they tell me on ultra sound my liver is enlarged and my liver enzymes go from normal to mildly elevated now for ten years i also have huge burping spells which i call logger burps which are very painful. i have also had what i call rotten egg stomachs since i was a child/ the interestin part is the dr.s can"t find a reason for any of this. their only diagnosis is fibromyalgia. i also test positive for anti nuclear antibodies in my blood. i have been called neurotic etc. this hurts very much and sometimes i feel like i don't  want to live anymore because of the level of discomfort in my body and nobody listens or seems to care. something has to be wrong for a person to hurt this bad all the time and even wake up in the night because the pain and discomfort is so bad it wakes you up and you pace the floor all night crying and hoping some one some day will find out what is wrong and fix it. thanks for listening, janet
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I have had the same pain, re-occurring every couple of days that lasts for 2-3 days, starts under right side of rib cage and radiates across my chest and across my back.  I become bloated and nothing is comfortable, have been to dr, but tells me that is just a stomach virus, and have been there 3 times w/same symptoms.  My husband doesn't understand the paint i go thru, i have cried so hard from it, and just feel like dying.  Dr. would only give me something for the nausea, when i was begging for pain killers.  It is the worse pain that i felt in my life except for childbirth, but i know it's gonna come back again, cause it re-occurs every couple wks.  I cannot even hold a job because i'll wake up with it, and it feels like i'm having a heart attack when it goes across my chest.  I hope someone can figure out this strange illness, nobody i know has the same thing around where i live, and they all say it's all in my mind...please help...
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