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What could be causing my Autistic son to have orange stools?
My son is 4 1/2 years old and Autistic. Since my son was about a year old, he consistantly has soft orange stools, usually with little or no smell. We have changed his diet off and on for the past 2 years to see if anything would change, i.e., we removed all dairy and casein, then wheat and gluten, then both, then reintroduced both seperatley, yet he still has orange stools. We are fairly certain that he has some digestive/absorption/gut permeability problems, and are starting enzyme therapy to address some of those problems. He has also had problems with yeast, which we are treating now with probiotics. We have been giving him vitamin supplaments but he had orange stools before we gave him the vitamins, although it seems like the vitamins make the stools more orange. We just recently gave him an Organic Acid test and are awaiting the results. Could the orange stools be due to some unknown culprit, like a parasite? Are there any diseases or conditions that have orange stools as a typical sign or symptom?
A related discussion, Diflucan 200 mg was started.
Hello Jennifer ,my name is Paul and I live in the middle of England, I know so much because I
PAJ,
Hello! My son's name is Jason and we are from Southern California, how about you? Name, location, and how the heck do you know so much about all of this? You have a truck load of info!
The appt. went well. The results of the Organic Acid test revealed that Jason is in worse shape then we thought! He tested high for yeast growth (not so much a suprise), he is severly deficient in Magnesium, Calcium, B12, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Arginine, Carnitine, N-Acetyleysteine, Coenzyme Q10, and 5-Hydroxytryptophn. SO, we will be implementing supplaments for all of these deficiencies, one at a time. We started with Diflucan to treat the yeast problem and will switch to Nystatin soon. We are still giving him the probiotics and the Enzymes. And we are still taking a multiple supplament, Super-Nu-Thera rom Kirkman labs. We are also considering which diet changes to implement. We are trying to figure out how to get the good oils in his diet (Flaxeed Oil or Safflower). I heard that if you cook with these oils, you loose their Antioxidant power, which would defeat the purpose? Oh, and we figured that we might as well try the magnesium epsom salt baths to help with the magnesium deficiency. Whew, I think that covers it.
I read somewhere that one issue that is important that we have not yet discussed with Jason's Dr. is Jason's electrolyte functioning (balance). I read that until we address that issue, all of these supplaments and meds will not do much good. If he does have an inbalance (which I would assumme that he does)his body won't be able to "process" or utilize all of these treatments. What are your thoughts on that? We have another appt. in a month or so to reevaluate his progress. Thanks again for everything!
Jennifer
Hello! My son's name is Jason and we are from Southern California, how about you? Name, location, and how the heck do you know so much about all of this? You have a truck load of info!
The appt. went well. The results of the Organic Acid test revealed that Jason is in worse shape then we thought! He tested high for yeast growth (not so much a suprise), he is severly deficient in Magnesium, Calcium, B12, Folic Acid, Riboflavin, Arginine, Carnitine, N-Acetyleysteine, Coenzyme Q10, and 5-Hydroxytryptophn. SO, we will be implementing supplaments for all of these deficiencies, one at a time. We started with Diflucan to treat the yeast problem and will switch to Nystatin soon. We are still giving him the probiotics and the Enzymes. And we are still taking a multiple supplament, Super-Nu-Thera rom Kirkman labs. We are also considering which diet changes to implement. We are trying to figure out how to get the good oils in his diet (Flaxeed Oil or Safflower). I heard that if you cook with these oils, you loose their Antioxidant power, which would defeat the purpose? Oh, and we figured that we might as well try the magnesium epsom salt baths to help with the magnesium deficiency. Whew, I think that covers it.
I read somewhere that one issue that is important that we have not yet discussed with Jason's Dr. is Jason's electrolyte functioning (balance). I read that until we address that issue, all of these supplaments and meds will not do much good. If he does have an inbalance (which I would assumme that he does)his body won't be able to "process" or utilize all of these treatments. What are your thoughts on that? We have another appt. in a month or so to reevaluate his progress. Thanks again for everything!
Jennifer
Jennifer, How did the visit to the doctor go?
Jennifer,
A few more interesting facts on yeast ,from my under construction web site, you will need to search
A few more interesting facts on yeast ,from my under construction web site, you will need to search
Jennifer, it
PAJ,
"We" refers to me, my husband and our son's Dr. We have been taking our son to see a Dr. who follows the DAN! protocol in treating Autism. My son has a regular Pediatrician, who has not been any help with any of my son's symptoms, on the contrary, he usually offers to prescribe antibiotics for everything and nothing more. The DAN! Dr. has run some basic tests. Our son does have an overgrowth of yeast; he does not have elevated levels of toxic substances, namely Mercury; and he has a mild to moderate intolerance to Wheat (Gluten).
My belief is that my son was typically developing until 1 year old or so. I think that it was the combination of so many vaccinations in such a short period of time, and too many antibiotics (due to a number of sinus infections), his little immune system couldn't handle it. Our son's pediatrician was VERY pro-vaccination and VERY pro-antibiotics, like a lot of pediatricians Our son had all the normal vaccines and some additional ones; chicken pox, pnumeococol/strep, meningitis, etc. He had more than 30 vaccines before he was 3 years old!
I will inquire about the prebiotic/synbiotic treatment for the overgrowth of yeast to my son's DAN! Dr. at our next appointment. I will also request that his liver functioning be tested.
I am very interested in more information about changing "inappropriate gut flora back to healthy stock." Which prescription drugs work for this? Anti-funguls? Would we need additional tests before we begin using this type of medication? Any additional information you could provide would be so appreciated. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply.
Thank you, thank you!
Jennifer
"We" refers to me, my husband and our son's Dr. We have been taking our son to see a Dr. who follows the DAN! protocol in treating Autism. My son has a regular Pediatrician, who has not been any help with any of my son's symptoms, on the contrary, he usually offers to prescribe antibiotics for everything and nothing more. The DAN! Dr. has run some basic tests. Our son does have an overgrowth of yeast; he does not have elevated levels of toxic substances, namely Mercury; and he has a mild to moderate intolerance to Wheat (Gluten).
My belief is that my son was typically developing until 1 year old or so. I think that it was the combination of so many vaccinations in such a short period of time, and too many antibiotics (due to a number of sinus infections), his little immune system couldn't handle it. Our son's pediatrician was VERY pro-vaccination and VERY pro-antibiotics, like a lot of pediatricians Our son had all the normal vaccines and some additional ones; chicken pox, pnumeococol/strep, meningitis, etc. He had more than 30 vaccines before he was 3 years old!
I will inquire about the prebiotic/synbiotic treatment for the overgrowth of yeast to my son's DAN! Dr. at our next appointment. I will also request that his liver functioning be tested.
I am very interested in more information about changing "inappropriate gut flora back to healthy stock." Which prescription drugs work for this? Anti-funguls? Would we need additional tests before we begin using this type of medication? Any additional information you could provide would be so appreciated. Thanks so much for taking the time to reply.
Thank you, thank you!
Jennifer
PAJ,
Thanks again for the quick reply. Wow! I feel like a whole new door has opened for me to begin searching for more clues on ways to help my son. I am always reading books about Autism treatments, medical/biological and other. I also spend hours a week looking on the internet as well. I only recently realized/acknowledged that much of my son's negative behaviors had more to do with the way he was feeling and not just because he was frustrated about his inability to communicate. I have heard of anti-fungals before, but the idea that his chronic sinus infections were possibly fungal caused makes so much sense. I have visited all of the links that you gave me, printed it all and I will read it all tonight. I will let you know what our son's Dr. says about the Organic Acid test results, our appt. is for this comming Tuesday. If you can think of anything else, please let me know. Thanks again for all your help!
With sincere gratitude,
Jennifer
Thanks again for the quick reply. Wow! I feel like a whole new door has opened for me to begin searching for more clues on ways to help my son. I am always reading books about Autism treatments, medical/biological and other. I also spend hours a week looking on the internet as well. I only recently realized/acknowledged that much of my son's negative behaviors had more to do with the way he was feeling and not just because he was frustrated about his inability to communicate. I have heard of anti-fungals before, but the idea that his chronic sinus infections were possibly fungal caused makes so much sense. I have visited all of the links that you gave me, printed it all and I will read it all tonight. I will let you know what our son's Dr. says about the Organic Acid test results, our appt. is for this comming Tuesday. If you can think of anything else, please let me know. Thanks again for all your help!
With sincere gratitude,
Jennifer
Jenz, I missed a few points, , If the Organic Acid test finds yeast metabolites in the urine because of the way the body works it indicates a systemic infection . Treating the infection with probiotics unfortunately does not work .Crowding out the bad with good bugs is a wonderful thought but it just doesn
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Medications such as Rifampin (an antibiotic) and beta-carotene (a form of vitamin A) can cause orange stools as a side effect.
I am unaware of a parasite causing orange stools.
If the stool is more pale-orange, lack of bile salt (which gives stool a brownish color), antacids containing aluminum hydroxide, barium from recent barium enema test, and hepatitis can be causes of this. I would consider checking some baseline liver tests to evaluate for this.
Followup with your personal physician is essential.
This answer is not intended as and does not substitute for medical advice - the information presented is for patient education only. Please see your personal physician for further evaluation of your individual case.
Thanks,
Kevin, M.D.
I am unaware of a parasite causing orange stools.
If the stool is more pale-orange, lack of bile salt (which gives stool a brownish color), antacids containing aluminum hydroxide, barium from recent barium enema test, and hepatitis can be causes of this. I would consider checking some baseline liver tests to evaluate for this.
Followup with your personal physician is essential.
This answer is not intended as and does not substitute for medical advice - the information presented is for patient education only. Please see your personal physician for further evaluation of your individual case.
Thanks,
Kevin, M.D.
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