Lip Fold Pyoderma

[peekawho]

One of my dogs was suffering from this during the year.  He had several visits to the vet, several cycles of a rather expensive antibiotic, had to follow schedule of washing the folds at the corners of his mouth several times a day....and the infection would always come back.  (red, inflamed skin in the folds at the lower corners outside the dogs mouth).
The vet said that some dogs with a deep lip fold have to have surgery to smooth out the fold and prevent the moisture that fosters the infection, or they just have to constantly be on an antibiotic.

Um...not anxious to do either one of those choices.

Did some research online, and found that German Shepherds often seem to suffer from this lip fold pyoderma.   A GSD forum talked about using a cream called Penaten cream.   Several of the people had good results.   I found it on Amazon for about $8, and thought what the heck...seems to be mostly zinc oxide and some herbs, probably can't hurt.   People use it on babies for diaper rash, its so gentle.  I believe it is only sold overseas, but you can order it on Amazon.

Applied it 3 times a day (it comes in a can, and a little goes a very, very long way, will last forever).  Within 1 week, the active infection was gone.  He can't really lick it off, since the infection is on the outside skin at the corner folds of his mouth.
Now I apply it about twice a week to keep the pyoderma away, or whenever I see the skin start to get the slightest pink.  

He hasn't had any infection at all now for several months.  Thought I would mention it in case anyone had a dog or cat who has the same thing.    Worth a try if antibiotics don't help.

[jenireland]

Hi everyone... My golden cocker spaniel has been suffering with lipfold pyoderma for nearly one year. I've tried a lot of natural remedies but I just couldn't keep it at bay. I tried all of these methods for several months before changing to a new method. The main  symptoms were oozing wound, stinky lips, rubbing her lips off couches etc. After drinking water the moisture seemed to gather in the folds. If I didn't bathe it twice daily there would be yellowish puss. So I tried:



Cider apple vinegar and warm water wash using muslin cloth X2 daily..dried with soft tissue and followed with organic coconut oil.



Same as above but using Himalayan salt in warm water (instead of cider apple vinegar).



Same as above but used a few drops of MILTON sterilising fluid.



Same as above but using anti-bacterial soap.



Then I tried germolene instead of coconut oil.

Then I tried Sudocreme instead of Coconut oil.



Then I tried to keep the area dry so did no washing and just wiped with a sensitive pet wipe with a small amount of tea tree oil spray on wipe.



I brought her to the vet and he said it was just her breed so he gave her an injection (steroids?) and anti biotic tablets. This didn't clear it and it seemed even worse a few weeks later.



Then..recently I got some cream for MY nose after having blood vessels cauterised. When I read up about it it mentioned that it killed the Staph bacteria which I knew was linked to lipfold pyoderma. I tried it with my dog by wiping a small amount into the lip  fold using a Q-Tip  twice daily. Within one week it was totally cured. Her lip is dry and clean with no bad smell. The wound is now sealed over and pink like scarred skin. She seems much happier and more comfortable. I am not a vet or doctor and I know human medicines shouldn't really be used on dogs but I was soooooooo happy to find a cream that worked that I just thought I'd share it with other dog owners.


The cream is called Naseptin:

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ear-nose-and-throat/medicines/naseptin-nasal-cream.html

[Dorilana]

Hello, know this is an old post... but I am dying to know if this cream helped alleviate your dog's problem?

Did the problem come back or did the cream have any adverse reactions for you dog?

Thank you for any help!

[deadgamegrrl]

That's awesome. When I had bulldogs that would grow mushrooms under their nose ropes :)  I used Gold Bond Medicated baby powder. Good to know there is another solution!

[peekawho]

Google "lip fold pyoderma and Penaten" and you will find lots of anecdotal stories of it working.  

[furmomof5]

Thank you very much for sharing, I am so very glad this worked for you!!

[tokdoc]

info on the net saying that Penaten crème-Zinc Oxide is toxic to dogs

[Misfits4Me]

Thank you for this information.....Glad you found an answer......I was thinking about a way to keep it dry such as corn starch or a powdered antibiotic such as NFZ Puffer Powder......

Either way, I'm glad & again, thanks for sharing......Karla