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dislocated shoulder

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2 weeks ago, our puppy was run over by a truck.  He suffered several broken ribs, a collapsed lung and a severly broken forearm.  We are not able to take him to a vet.  
In nursing him 24 hours a day, he has pulled through nicely and is wanting to get back to being a puppy.  
My question lies with his forearm.  the bone seems to be heeling well, it's got a nice calcium ball however it's still "crunches" if manipulated.  It sort of hangs from the shoulder when he stands.  I'm wondering if it could be dislocated?  He likes to roll around on his back and the arm flops around.  If the shoulder is dislocated, could this be his way of getting it back in?  

At the shoulder joint it feels different than the other.  There seems to be a space.  Maybe that's just from the break?  

I know it's only been two weeks and he's got some time before he's all better, but I would just like to know what to look for in a dislocated shoulder and if there is anyway to relocate it myself.  As I've said, taking him in is not an option.  

thank you.
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Wow, this forum is really judgmental.  My puppy is limping and it looks like it is coming from the shoulder.   I AM TAKING HIM TO THE VET IN THE MORNING so don't flip out at me please.  I called to try to fit him in today and they said I had to wait.  

Now I know I am going to loose sleep over worrying about him all night long and so I search online to try to figure out just how awful tomorrow's news could be regarding puppy shoulder injuries, but all I found here was visceral emotional outlashes and a lot of judgement passed about someone who we don't know anything about because this is a message board, and not a window into HBN's experiences.  Thanks for the utter lack of information, everyone.  I will be avoiding this forum in the future and am disappointed it even came up in my search for "puppy, shoulder, limping."  do you all always lash out this much with so little information about the other person's situation at hand?  

I suggest some reading material on a concept called the "ladder of inference" which is basically where you jump to conclusions based on very little information to feel better about yourself (http://www.solonline.org/pra/tool/ladder.html).  

As a psychologist and as a pet owner, I am completely disappointed in the ration of information to useless venting present here.  Next time I'll just ask judge judy what she thinks instead of thinking, hmm maybe the internet can tell me what do I do with a limping puppy between now and the time i go to the vet at 8 am?  I hope you all are very proud of yourselves.  
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You can afford a computer and spend time on it, but can't afford a vet visit or have the time to take the dog?  Whats wrong with this picture?
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I'm a cop and I work animal cruelty cases.  Normally, when I investigate an animal cruelty case, I'm looking to see if the owner is doing whatever they are capable of doing in order to provide care for their animal.  Likewise, when I investigate an alleged child abuser, I am looking to see that the parent or guardian is providing to the best of their ability.  What some ignorant people believe is that everyone has the same opportunities and the same resources and, therefor, if they don't spend a mini-fortune on every circumstance, they just don't measure up.  If you believe this then you are ignorant.  If you CHOOSE to believe this, then you are being stupid, by definition.

Animals deserve the best care we can provide.  My financial situation may allow for some things that others can't afford and yours may provide for some things that I can't afford.  I have 4 kids and one dog.  I can afford that MOST of the time.  But there are circumstances that come up that I will not be able to afford right away.  That's the reality of living on a cop's salary.  It doesn't make me insane, idiotic, or non-compassionate. It means that S*** happens that we cannot always be prepared for, try as we must.

Work on payments with your vet or get a loan if possible.  If not, at least TRY.
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Or what? Put it up for adoption on Craigslist so y'all can pick it up and throw it in a pile of all the other dogs that NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO FIND A HOME. Maybe the local flipper can have my dog. Smh. So you'd take a homeless mans dog because it suffered from a sprain.... DONT TELL ME YOU WOULDNT THEN PUT IT DOWN OR REHIME IT EVEN THOUGH THE OWNER HAD THE COMPASSION AND CONVERN TO HELP THEIR ANIMALS? You obviously don't have any pets but snakes and pot belly pigs...and he couldn't afford it... I'm ashamed of you and feel bad for every dog you've 'saved' oh muh names Amber too btw. I believe that you will say nothing but argumentative bs, but I won't ever see this again. My 4 lb 1 yr old brindle deer head Chihuahua is a rescue, ended up having to have a 2500 exploratory surgery. Being a top 24/hr Animal Hospital, they did a payment plan, discounted a lot of expenses. I'm 21 have a job take care of my fukin own and your talkin this crud. Whatever. Hope yah rot scumbaggggggg. Don't be another Texas victim lol.
675347 tn?1365460645
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I wish I could be of real help, but I don't have a clue about this. But I admire the way you are fighting for your dog. If you are sure that little dog's life is worth trying to save, and he isn't in pain, or his life a misery, then "where there's life there's hope"

You could try posting your question on the "Ask a Vet" Expert forum. There is a small charge for this service, but you will get the opinions of qualified vets there.
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Hi Everyone, I took into my care a 6 week old puppy, that was nearly dead due to hook worms...I immediately brought him to a local vet that was on call that night...he took him in for three days, gave him a blood transfusion, antibiotics, so on and now he is mentally a okay!..But, when I picked him up from the vet his back right leg was stiff and his two left legs were not functioning properly. The vet said that I should put him down because it was due to infection in his spine that spread to his ligaments...I still decided to work with him because something didnt seem right. I brought him home..kept him on the antibiotics and did exercises with him everyday and he started to improve...his back right legs are doing wonderful but his front left leg seems like the shoulder is dislocated...he can move his toes and leg but it is obviously out of place so i brought him to a second vet for another oppinion and he tells me that he had infection start up in his umbilical cord shortly after birth and that he has calcification in his shoulder from this??? And to put him to sleep. I am so tired of hearing this because this puppy is smart and strong and he wants to live...I really honestly do not agree( though i do not have a degree) with either of these vets...I am taking him to a THIRD vet tomorrow and get them to x-ray him and pray that I get some answers...Anyway...Just wondering what all of you guys think? You seem like you are very straight forward and you also seem very informed! Id appreciate any feedback on what may be the cause of this..THANK YOU.
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675347 tn?1365460645
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Please do not be bitter towards the people who answered this thread. They are people who genuinely are trying their level best to help in many situations where those who are worried about their dogs either need sound advice, or on the odd occasion a firecracker up the *** when occasionally, as we find here, there are those who plead poverty, or ignorance while their dog is suffering. This situation recurs at times, and the members here find those things very upsetting, as they are all ardent dog-(and animal) lovers, with very big hearts!

That no means applies to all who reach out for help here. Owning a dog is a steep learning-curve. Some people are just confused. Or are new owners and are unsure what to do. Or the illness/injury baffles them, and they have the humility to take the advice they have sought.

Apart from big-hearted, (albeit sometimes very emotional) dog-lovers, there are also those with a good deal of veterinary experience here. And for Aleda Cheng (the Vet) to cross over from her Expert Forum page to this one, says to me, she heard a pretty powerful alert call to do that!

Also, please do remember that while your attitude to your dogs is perfectly fine, your dogs have their place in your family, (and they are well cared for I am sure) though your children come first for you, and that is quite natural....for some people here their dog is the only loved "family member" they may have, or is the equivalent of a "Child" to those who longed for children, and yet could not have them, or may be their last refuge after the death of a spouse.... (however irrational and absurd you may think that is)

Please do not be so bitter to a member here who paid 7,000 dollars to have her dog fixed up after the most horrific injuries. She is a good woman, I happen to know that. She is not 'smarmy' and did the thing I would also do (if I owned 7,000 dollars!) to save the life, and eliminate the suffering of my true friend and family member. She had a choice between euthanasia and paying these dollars out, and she chose the latter. That may not have been everyone's answer....and either solution would have been the right one at this point. But her choice was her prerogative.

Take it easy with us! We get very emotional at times over problems we hear about when people just will not take their dog to the vet even though it is obvious that dog needs emergency care! I guess some people have just heard that once too often.
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