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i have a year old pekingnese mixed with dashound she since we got her she always sleped alot and a pickey eater she went into heat i waited until she stoped bleeding my friend brought her male dog over 2 of her nipples have crusy stuff 2 other nipples look like ther opening could she be pregnant please help me
I went to vet school. I am not a practicing vet. You came here asking for help and the forum members gave you their best advice, and even though that advice wasn't something that you wanted to hear, it was the truth. Nobody here is trying to play god, we are here for the benefit of the animals. If we are aware of a situation that could be potentially dangerous or even deadly to an animal, we are going to try our best to steer the person away from that situation.
In one of your early posts you made the statement " i called the vet i just can not afford a ultra sound to find out have you gone through this". Because of that statement, I felt it necessary to advise you of the cost of a c-section and the fact that since your dog is a small breed and the father of the possible litter is of a large breed that it was pretty much a given that a c-section would be necessary. It seems that you wanted us all to tell you how wonderful it would be if your dog was to be pregnant and how much fun it would be to have puppies, but from people who have spent the majority of their adult lives working in the veterinary profession, doing rescue and being concerned about dog health in general this situation just doesn't warrant a happy pappy answer.
The bottom line is she is your dog. No amount of good advice will benefit her if you already have your mind made up that you are going to do otherwise. I truly hope that you will reconsider allowing her to have the puppies if she is pregnant, but if you do not, I hope you are able to have the c-section done because after receiving the bill for a c-section, the ultrasound is going to look like dollar store stuff. Perhaps if you talk to your vet and they give you the same advice it will mean more coming from them.
Ghilly
In one of your early posts you made the statement " i called the vet i just can not afford a ultra sound to find out have you gone through this". Because of that statement, I felt it necessary to advise you of the cost of a c-section and the fact that since your dog is a small breed and the father of the possible litter is of a large breed that it was pretty much a given that a c-section would be necessary. It seems that you wanted us all to tell you how wonderful it would be if your dog was to be pregnant and how much fun it would be to have puppies, but from people who have spent the majority of their adult lives working in the veterinary profession, doing rescue and being concerned about dog health in general this situation just doesn't warrant a happy pappy answer.
The bottom line is she is your dog. No amount of good advice will benefit her if you already have your mind made up that you are going to do otherwise. I truly hope that you will reconsider allowing her to have the puppies if she is pregnant, but if you do not, I hope you are able to have the c-section done because after receiving the bill for a c-section, the ultrasound is going to look like dollar store stuff. Perhaps if you talk to your vet and they give you the same advice it will mean more coming from them.
Ghilly
im not playing god im just letting you know the possible risks, what you do with your dog is ultimatly your choice
My comment was not to u it was to ghilly but any ways that does not make u god 2ed she is my dog and I would NEVER NEVER. HURT MY DOG I love my dog to peaces like I been saying I will call my vet and talk to them I was on here to see if someone new how to tell if my dog is pregnanat not play god my mom has a saying if u have nothing nice don't say nothing at all
no i am not a vet but i have been a vet tech for 6 years and have seen a lot f dogs come in with puppies that are too big... best case senario the one that gets stuck dies but with emergancy surgery the rest live, worst case senario none live... its amazing risky. im not trying to be harsh , im just telling you from personal experience the risks you are facing
I have question r u a vet? If not do t assume anything I am not animal killer if she is prego I will call the vet to let them know she is 100% pregnant and I know she will be fine I will even post pics also post updates what happened like I said if u r not a vet u can not give that type of info I am on her looking for appointment s on what I think is going on
Your friend's dog may be medium size now, but that is because he is only 7 months old. The puppies will not grow dependent on the size of the parents at conception, they will grow dependent on how they are genetically programmed to grow. A coonhound, ANY type of coonhound, is a large breed dog. It doesn't matter how strong your dog is, the simple laws of physics say that you cannot pass a watermelon though a garden hose. Period.
IF your dog is pregnant, you are running a real risk here allowing her to have the puppies. If she is even able to carry a litter from a large dog to term, there is a strong possibility you will lose her during the whelping. Please don't be foolish about this. As Hyenakiss said, I know it's sad, but if you want to protect your dog's health, it needs to be done. Spay her.
Ghilly
IF your dog is pregnant, you are running a real risk here allowing her to have the puppies. If she is even able to carry a litter from a large dog to term, there is a strong possibility you will lose her during the whelping. Please don't be foolish about this. As Hyenakiss said, I know it's sad, but if you want to protect your dog's health, it needs to be done. Spay her.
Ghilly
if you bred a peke/ dashunde to a coonehound... her babies will probally kill her... it has nothing to do with how strong she is, and it has nothing to do with differances in humaN sizes... her pelvis will probaly not be big enough to allow the heads of her puppys to pass they get stuck in the canal and die. period... it can happen with dogs that are only slightly different sizes, mostly when u are dealing with smaller breeds like peke/dauchs . spay her. i know its sad but are you willing to risk her life and all the puppies? a coonhound is WAY to big of a male t breed with her. her poor body is not designed for taking care of fetuses or puppies that large
some dogs show few symptoms with pyo's especialy when its early, there is just always a risk right after a heat cycle , and a lot of people i have encountered at the hospital think thier dog is pregnant when it actualy has an infection.... and there isnt neccisarily any discharge.. a closed pyo doesnt have any and is actualy more dangerous... im not saying thats what it is , just thats smething she should be careful of when breeding dogs..
I understand the coonhound is a Med size dog that's why I said he was big and as for my dog being small I am not tall at all I have 4 boys so do not estimate her size I give you example she plays with my other friends bog and he is fixed and he is a pit mix so she my be small but she is strong so if she I will post pics of my dog with her puppies
I in no way meant that you don't cherish your dog. But that has nothing to do with the situation at hand. A coonhound is a LOT larger than a dachshund or a pekingese, so you have the potential for a real disaster here, especially since the female is so young. Most breeders wouldn't consider breeding any female before her second birthday, with 18 months being the earliest that a large breed breeder would do it. Also, the reason I stressed the cost of the C-section is because in one of your posts you stated that you just cannot afford an ultrasound. The cost of an ultrasound is a drop in the bucket compared to the C-section, hence my belaboring the point of the cost of the C-section. Add to this the fact that much of the time they go into labor later at night or during the night, and by the time you realize she is having trouble the only vets that will be open are the emergency vets, which will end up costing you probably 1/3 to 1/2 more than a regular vet would charge.
If you truly cannot bring yourself to spay her before she has the puppies, another thing you need to consider, then, is that the puppies, because of their potential size with the father being a coonhound, are going to take a lot more out of her than a litter of her own breeds would. It would be the equivalent of a very tiny human, say 4' 10" tall weighing 90 pounds giving birth to a 20 pound baby. The pieces just don'e work together easily. If your dog were the coonhound and the dachshund/peke mix the father there wouldn't be any problem at all, but the other way around is very bad.
Ghilly
If you truly cannot bring yourself to spay her before she has the puppies, another thing you need to consider, then, is that the puppies, because of their potential size with the father being a coonhound, are going to take a lot more out of her than a litter of her own breeds would. It would be the equivalent of a very tiny human, say 4' 10" tall weighing 90 pounds giving birth to a 20 pound baby. The pieces just don'e work together easily. If your dog were the coonhound and the dachshund/peke mix the father there wouldn't be any problem at all, but the other way around is very bad.
Ghilly
I don't know if she is I was in my dinning room they both went into my sons room I do not know for how long they were in there if she is I will do any thing to help her the coin hound is a little big than my dog like I said I will take good care of her she not just a dog she is part of my family
COMMUNITY LEADER
With Pyometra there are usually symptoms of illness. A female with Pyometra will sometimes vomit, will be very lethargic, may be running a fever ( 102 degrees or above) , may drink more water suddenly, and will probably refuse all food.
Mine had Pyometa, and although she ate breakfast that day, 4 hours later it became obvious she was very sick. She lay down after a short walk and wouldn't move, she refused all treats, she didn't even want to greet her favourite friend. She also had vaginal discharge like a greyish mucus.
Sometimes they have discharge, and sometimes not. But yes, Pyometra needs urgent emergency treatment.
It does sound very much like your girl is pregnant from what you have said. Did you see her mating with the Coonhound? If he kept mounting her but they didn't actually make what is known as a "tie" (when they get well stuck together usually back-to-back) -then the chances are she isn't pregnant. But if they did "tie" you can be almost 100% sure she is.
Ghilly is right when she says that the pups will be too large to be born naturally. My feeling is they will be too. When the male is bigger than the female, that means the puppies will be large-boned and there more than likely will be difficulties at the birth.
I understand your wish to let those puppies live, and let Nature take her course. But I think you will almost certainly have to be prepared for a cesarian birth. And you will have to be very ready for the event, so you will be able to call the vet in time.
The thing to do is to inform your vet about when the puppies are expected, get him/her to agree to respond immediately to your telephone call (when the birth is imminent) and be ready to perform her surgery. It needs some planning.
A dog's normal temperature is about 101.5. Just before they are ready to give birth, the temperature suddenly drops usually to around 99 degrees. At that point, you have a few hours' grace only.
So if you have an idea what date she mated, and count on 63 days, you will have a vague date for the birth. After about 55 days I would take her temperature twice a day, morning and night, to see what's happening with her.
Mine had Pyometa, and although she ate breakfast that day, 4 hours later it became obvious she was very sick. She lay down after a short walk and wouldn't move, she refused all treats, she didn't even want to greet her favourite friend. She also had vaginal discharge like a greyish mucus.
Sometimes they have discharge, and sometimes not. But yes, Pyometra needs urgent emergency treatment.
It does sound very much like your girl is pregnant from what you have said. Did you see her mating with the Coonhound? If he kept mounting her but they didn't actually make what is known as a "tie" (when they get well stuck together usually back-to-back) -then the chances are she isn't pregnant. But if they did "tie" you can be almost 100% sure she is.
Ghilly is right when she says that the pups will be too large to be born naturally. My feeling is they will be too. When the male is bigger than the female, that means the puppies will be large-boned and there more than likely will be difficulties at the birth.
I understand your wish to let those puppies live, and let Nature take her course. But I think you will almost certainly have to be prepared for a cesarian birth. And you will have to be very ready for the event, so you will be able to call the vet in time.
The thing to do is to inform your vet about when the puppies are expected, get him/her to agree to respond immediately to your telephone call (when the birth is imminent) and be ready to perform her surgery. It needs some planning.
A dog's normal temperature is about 101.5. Just before they are ready to give birth, the temperature suddenly drops usually to around 99 degrees. At that point, you have a few hours' grace only.
So if you have an idea what date she mated, and count on 63 days, you will have a vague date for the birth. After about 55 days I would take her temperature twice a day, morning and night, to see what's happening with her.
as far as spaying her goes.. there are so many dogs, millions that are euthinized everyday... its important to not contribute... it may seem cruel but its really the best.... she could also be experiencing a false pregnancy... anther possibility is that she may have a pyometra... does she have any discharge? loss of appitite? drinking more water than usual? if it is a pyo it can be life threatening and she will need too be spayed.... this can usualy be determined by an xray... so can pregnacy if she is far enough along... xrays are much cheaper than ultrasounds.
He is 7 months coin hound blue I am sorry u feel that way my bog is deff part of my family to us she is human
If he is bigger and she is pregnant, you are risking her life to allow her to have this litter and, to be blunt, if you don't have the heart to fix her I hope you have the money for a C-section. Chances are good that the puppies will be large enough for her to need one, so if you refuse to have her spayed so that she is not endangered by having the litter, you need to start saving money now. The cost of the operation averages $2500.
As I said before, animals do not develop psychological attachments and affection toward their fetuses. All she knows right now is that she's feeling different from the hormonal changes in her body. She has no idea what they mean. Animals react on instinct alone. When the time comes for her to have the litter, she won't know why she is experiencing pain, she'll just be doing what that little instinctive nudge in the back of her brain is telling her to do. The reason there are so many dogs and cats in shelters today is because people anthropomorphize their pets and try to imagine them thinking as humans do and this is simply not the case. To further complicate this already bad situation, your dog is a mix of two small breeds. Small breed dogs do not mature as quickly as large breed dogs and for a year old female to have a litter, especially a litter by a male who is larger than she is, is EXTREMELY risky. What breed or mix of breeds is the male dog? How much does he weigh?
Ghilly
As I said before, animals do not develop psychological attachments and affection toward their fetuses. All she knows right now is that she's feeling different from the hormonal changes in her body. She has no idea what they mean. Animals react on instinct alone. When the time comes for her to have the litter, she won't know why she is experiencing pain, she'll just be doing what that little instinctive nudge in the back of her brain is telling her to do. The reason there are so many dogs and cats in shelters today is because people anthropomorphize their pets and try to imagine them thinking as humans do and this is simply not the case. To further complicate this already bad situation, your dog is a mix of two small breeds. Small breed dogs do not mature as quickly as large breed dogs and for a year old female to have a litter, especially a litter by a male who is larger than she is, is EXTREMELY risky. What breed or mix of breeds is the male dog? How much does he weigh?
Ghilly
He is bigger they got together Dec.30 and Jan 10th on Jan10th they ran off to my living room to play then they came into my dinning room and he tried and she refused him if she is pregnant I just don't have the heat to fix her I am a mother of 4
A heat cycle lasts for 21 days. If you only waited until she stopped bleeding to bring your friend's male dog over, then you put them together right at her fertile time. There is a 99% chance that she IS pregnant since if a female dog allows a male dog to breed her, there is little to no chance that it didn't take. If her nipples are brighter pink than they normally are then that is one of the first signs that she has become pregnant as a result of the breeding.
The bleeding phase is the very first part of the heat cycle. After the bleeding stops, the female ovulates and it is at that point that she is at her most fertile. If she was only with the male dog 1 to 2 weeks ago there is still plenty of time to have her spayed so that she doesn't have the litter. What kind of dog was the male? If he was larger than she is, I would strongly advise having her spayed since when the female is the smaller dog of the pair, there is a much greater chance that she will have difficulty giving birth. If the puppies are too large for her to be able to give birth, it will result in her needing an emergency Caesarian section otherwise both she and the puppies can die.
It costs more to have them spayed while they are pregnant but in the long run it is worth it if there are risk factors involved in the pregnancy. A Caesarian section costs about $2500, so whatever the cost of the spaying is, it will be a fraction of the cost of a C-section. The dog herself suffers no ill effects from having the litter taken from her, dogs do not get emotionally attached to their fetuses the way humans do. As long as she is no further along than about 4 or 5 weeks the surgery can be done safely.
Again, what type of dog does your friend have? It it smaller or larger than yours? And did I read that correctly that the dogs got together 1 to 2 weeks ago? I'm just double checking so that I know whether the answers I gave you are appropriate or if I misunderstood what you wrote and need to amend my response.
Ghilly
The bleeding phase is the very first part of the heat cycle. After the bleeding stops, the female ovulates and it is at that point that she is at her most fertile. If she was only with the male dog 1 to 2 weeks ago there is still plenty of time to have her spayed so that she doesn't have the litter. What kind of dog was the male? If he was larger than she is, I would strongly advise having her spayed since when the female is the smaller dog of the pair, there is a much greater chance that she will have difficulty giving birth. If the puppies are too large for her to be able to give birth, it will result in her needing an emergency Caesarian section otherwise both she and the puppies can die.
It costs more to have them spayed while they are pregnant but in the long run it is worth it if there are risk factors involved in the pregnancy. A Caesarian section costs about $2500, so whatever the cost of the spaying is, it will be a fraction of the cost of a C-section. The dog herself suffers no ill effects from having the litter taken from her, dogs do not get emotionally attached to their fetuses the way humans do. As long as she is no further along than about 4 or 5 weeks the surgery can be done safely.
Again, what type of dog does your friend have? It it smaller or larger than yours? And did I read that correctly that the dogs got together 1 to 2 weeks ago? I'm just double checking so that I know whether the answers I gave you are appropriate or if I misunderstood what you wrote and need to amend my response.
Ghilly
its 1 to 2 weeks there is no inflammation just on of her nipples are a deff pink than the rest how can i tell if she is she was lazy when i first got her and i called the vet i just can not afford a ultra sound to find out have you gone through this
COMMUNITY LEADER
I commented just now on the other question you left at the end of that old thread.
Anyway if she's been with a male dog during (particularly) the middle of her Heat cycle...then yes, she could be pregnant. (how long ago now? A female is pregnant for about 63 days)
But the sore nipples must get some attention. If there is an infection or inflammation it could affect her ability to either produce milk, or to suckle properly when the puppies are . As a result, those puppies could die.
It would be a very good idea to take her to the vet to get those crusty sore nipples checked out.
Anyway if she's been with a male dog during (particularly) the middle of her Heat cycle...then yes, she could be pregnant. (how long ago now? A female is pregnant for about 63 days)
But the sore nipples must get some attention. If there is an infection or inflammation it could affect her ability to either produce milk, or to suckle properly when the puppies are . As a result, those puppies could die.
It would be a very good idea to take her to the vet to get those crusty sore nipples checked out.
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