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burning lungs when rigorously exercising
My lungs feel like they are burning when i run and breathe hard. After running I cough a little too. Why is this?? I am only 30 and I don't smoke. I have had Bronchitis every year almost in the winter. Also I am just starting to run, trying to work out more.
Got my son's 23andme results and he did NOT get my ADADM variant so that is not the genetics that we share responsible for our shared tendency for burnt lungs.
Anyone with this problem been genotyped for ACADM? I have one copy of the G variant. Haven't gotten my son's results back yet but we both suffer/suffered from an unusual tendency for burnt lungs and chronic cough during track season running competitive 800 meters. Haven't tried the oil yet but wondering if that theory would align with the ACADM defect in making energy from medium-chain fatty acids.
Cardio is not the lungs genius it's the heart, Vascular has to do with the arteries & veins, Cardiovascular is the circulatory system. Please go back to grade 1.
Hi there I got stabbed under the armpit it went right through my lung and stopped 4 mm away from my heart
I have now started back a full hard training program's for to try and win the mile come the summertime professional games I have been out running for a while but now I have been pushing my body to the max like 8 mile runs in 1 hour and heavy gym work but with light weights
The trouble is my lung burns like fire when I push it to these levels !! Is this normal will the pain barrier come to a point of stopping or what
Some times I am nearly sick with the sort of forcing up clear flem after workouts
I work with no pain no gain but not sure if its best
I have now started back a full hard training program's for to try and win the mile come the summertime professional games I have been out running for a while but now I have been pushing my body to the max like 8 mile runs in 1 hour and heavy gym work but with light weights
The trouble is my lung burns like fire when I push it to these levels !! Is this normal will the pain barrier come to a point of stopping or what
Some times I am nearly sick with the sort of forcing up clear flem after workouts
I work with no pain no gain but not sure if its best
The EFA's would probably work best on shortness of breath as they increase oxygenation.
However breathing through the nose should also help because other than humidifying the air it turns out the nose contains cells that produce Nitric Oxide... which has a vaso-dilating effect... which means circulation improves... and this helps remove the lactic acid which seems to be the basis of the burning in the lungs.
The other approach that should work is to neutralise the acid with an alkali... but I haven't worked out how to do that successfully yet. At least it has been impossible to tell if taking an alkali significantly decreases burning in the lungs. A common alkali that would be safe is bicarbonate of soda.
BTW: Lactic acid seems to serve an important role in flushing out arteries... so perhaps this is a highly desirable effect... as long as it does not become excessive?
:-)
However breathing through the nose should also help because other than humidifying the air it turns out the nose contains cells that produce Nitric Oxide... which has a vaso-dilating effect... which means circulation improves... and this helps remove the lactic acid which seems to be the basis of the burning in the lungs.
The other approach that should work is to neutralise the acid with an alkali... but I haven't worked out how to do that successfully yet. At least it has been impossible to tell if taking an alkali significantly decreases burning in the lungs. A common alkali that would be safe is bicarbonate of soda.
BTW: Lactic acid seems to serve an important role in flushing out arteries... so perhaps this is a highly desirable effect... as long as it does not become excessive?
:-)
Did the oil combination cure your chest burning? My chest burns within minutes of any exercise. Even walking fast for a few minutes will cause it. I agree that the lungs burn off lactic acid and that the burning sensation may be the lungs inability to remove excess lactic acid. Do you know if this EFA combination worked for anyone else? I also have AFIB since 2006, however, there seems to be no connection between the burning sensation and AFIB. I do get occasion shortness of breath or inabiliy to "catch my breath" (unrelated to chest burning sensation) at times so I feel it is exercise induced asthma. I am eager to try the oil combination, however, curious to see if it has helped anyone else sunce the posting by slick21 in 2011?
The lungs, along with the heart, are the central focus of cardio-vascular training. Cardio (having to do with the lungs) Vascular (having to do with blood pumping, i.e. the heart, arteries and veins.) There are three reasons why people experience burning in their lungs when running. (I am a competitive collegiate runner)
1) You're out of shape....Don't kid yourself. If you are running at a very manageable pace and yet your lungs always start burning, you just have a weak cardio-vascular system. Consistent training is the ONLY thing that will make your heart and lungs stronger and prevent this from happening if this is the cause.
2) You're running too hard....Even elite runners lungs burn when they run at their max for middle distances, (between a mile to 10k) When you push really hard, you breath really hard and it hurts. Sprinters don't feel it because they aren't running for a long enough period of time, and marathon runners don't because they keep themselves at a managable pace. (plus marathoners have ridiculously strong lungs.
3) You have a medical problem with your lungs or bronchial tubes....You'd have to ask a doctor about what you can do about this. I highly doubt that taking flaxseed oil or any other supplement will help you. You need real medicine if you have a medical issue.
1) You're out of shape....Don't kid yourself. If you are running at a very manageable pace and yet your lungs always start burning, you just have a weak cardio-vascular system. Consistent training is the ONLY thing that will make your heart and lungs stronger and prevent this from happening if this is the cause.
2) You're running too hard....Even elite runners lungs burn when they run at their max for middle distances, (between a mile to 10k) When you push really hard, you breath really hard and it hurts. Sprinters don't feel it because they aren't running for a long enough period of time, and marathon runners don't because they keep themselves at a managable pace. (plus marathoners have ridiculously strong lungs.
3) You have a medical problem with your lungs or bronchial tubes....You'd have to ask a doctor about what you can do about this. I highly doubt that taking flaxseed oil or any other supplement will help you. You need real medicine if you have a medical issue.
To the guy producing a lot of phlegm... try removing milk from your diet temporarily to check if it's a lactose intolerance. If it is milk you can also add cocoa to your milk... as this helps metabolise the lactose.
The phlegm and the burning are probably not related.
...and for those who want an anti-histamine VitC is an anti-histamine. You just have to take enough of it to get an effect. Most people underdose because they don't realise how little is absorbed when you take it orally (in most forms).
The phlegm and the burning are probably not related.
...and for those who want an anti-histamine VitC is an anti-histamine. You just have to take enough of it to get an effect. Most people underdose because they don't realise how little is absorbed when you take it orally (in most forms).
Have you followed any of the advices? Has it helped?
It's been a couple of years since you first posted your question and I'm hoping you've found an answer.
I am having a very similar problem: Only recently when I begin to exercise, I feel this odd burning sensation in my lungs and my breathing becomes "out of proportion" heavy.
I have never smoked, I am in shape, and I am a vegetarian that eats "buckets" of blueberries, raspberries, watermelon, etc -- plus flaxseed oil derived from algae (so I have my anti-oxidants and omegas covered).
So, my question is: what the heck is happening? This is extremely weird. Any theories? I am not wheezing so I'm assuming I don't have asthma.
I am having a very similar problem: Only recently when I begin to exercise, I feel this odd burning sensation in my lungs and my breathing becomes "out of proportion" heavy.
I have never smoked, I am in shape, and I am a vegetarian that eats "buckets" of blueberries, raspberries, watermelon, etc -- plus flaxseed oil derived from algae (so I have my anti-oxidants and omegas covered).
So, my question is: what the heck is happening? This is extremely weird. Any theories? I am not wheezing so I'm assuming I don't have asthma.
BTW: Simply taking a deep breath... holding it and pressing out forcefully (while holding it)... will quickly relieve the symptoms... but not the cause.
There is now Lypo-spheric VitC... which contains both Ascorbic acid and phospholipids. The phospholipids help build up your cell membranes and the VitC is 99% absorbable in this form. That means you can get much higher VitC levels than normal ie. normal absorption of VitC orally is only about 16-30%. That means you give the cells the building blocks they need (fats) while providing the anti-oxidants that are required to neutralise exercise induced by products. Lypospheric VitC penetrates the cell walls in it's active form (the reduced form) whereas normal VitC must be inactive (oxidised) to do this. It must then be recharged on the inside of the cell before it is fully functional again.
Cell membranes are ~50% fat and ~50% protein... so to fix the problem you must fix the cell membrane. Anti-oxidants help by protecting the cell membrane and helping it work better. However without the right fats in the cell membrane it can't work properly.
If you would like to stabilise cell membranes further you could try astaxanthin which is the strongest fat soluble anti-oxidant they've yet found (comes from algae). This anti-oxidant has become popular because people have realised that it is much harder to get sun-burnt when they take it. That is one very obvious test for a good anti-oxidant or your anti-oxidant status.
Another strong anti-inflammatory substance is found in Mangosteen. The local health food shop was selling bottles of quite bitter juice for around $16. A friend of mine has wheezing badly and using a ventolin puffer (he said his doctor said it was bronchitis). We tried soluble VitC and Mangosteen (the active ingredient is in the skin) on him and got a total clear up of his symptoms in a couple of hours.
VitD may also be part of the problem for many of us. Burning usually occurs at the start of an exercise program and then usually decreases over time... which usually also corresponds to sun exposure. Dr Michael Hollick has a really good video presentation highlighting many of the key points in VitD. Google him and listen to the video?
Once you figure out what is required to bring this problem under control (it will probably differ a bit from person to person) you'll probably be able to introduce some food into your diet that does the same thing without supplementation... but that's a longer term goal.
In general a diet high in anti-oxidants, EFA's (not fish oils), minerals and vitamins is what you're aiming for. If you're wondering what a good diet looks like take a look at Bernando LaPallo who is 110 years old (do a search).
The bulk of this stuff will clear up most of the symptoms you are complaining about quite quickly... but the cells that are causing the problem only turn over every 3-12 months... so the maximal effects will take at least this long to cut in.
Hope that adds a few more ideas?
There is now Lypo-spheric VitC... which contains both Ascorbic acid and phospholipids. The phospholipids help build up your cell membranes and the VitC is 99% absorbable in this form. That means you can get much higher VitC levels than normal ie. normal absorption of VitC orally is only about 16-30%. That means you give the cells the building blocks they need (fats) while providing the anti-oxidants that are required to neutralise exercise induced by products. Lypospheric VitC penetrates the cell walls in it's active form (the reduced form) whereas normal VitC must be inactive (oxidised) to do this. It must then be recharged on the inside of the cell before it is fully functional again.
Cell membranes are ~50% fat and ~50% protein... so to fix the problem you must fix the cell membrane. Anti-oxidants help by protecting the cell membrane and helping it work better. However without the right fats in the cell membrane it can't work properly.
If you would like to stabilise cell membranes further you could try astaxanthin which is the strongest fat soluble anti-oxidant they've yet found (comes from algae). This anti-oxidant has become popular because people have realised that it is much harder to get sun-burnt when they take it. That is one very obvious test for a good anti-oxidant or your anti-oxidant status.
Another strong anti-inflammatory substance is found in Mangosteen. The local health food shop was selling bottles of quite bitter juice for around $16. A friend of mine has wheezing badly and using a ventolin puffer (he said his doctor said it was bronchitis). We tried soluble VitC and Mangosteen (the active ingredient is in the skin) on him and got a total clear up of his symptoms in a couple of hours.
VitD may also be part of the problem for many of us. Burning usually occurs at the start of an exercise program and then usually decreases over time... which usually also corresponds to sun exposure. Dr Michael Hollick has a really good video presentation highlighting many of the key points in VitD. Google him and listen to the video?
Once you figure out what is required to bring this problem under control (it will probably differ a bit from person to person) you'll probably be able to introduce some food into your diet that does the same thing without supplementation... but that's a longer term goal.
In general a diet high in anti-oxidants, EFA's (not fish oils), minerals and vitamins is what you're aiming for. If you're wondering what a good diet looks like take a look at Bernando LaPallo who is 110 years old (do a search).
The bulk of this stuff will clear up most of the symptoms you are complaining about quite quickly... but the cells that are causing the problem only turn over every 3-12 months... so the maximal effects will take at least this long to cut in.
Hope that adds a few more ideas?
Hi there, just noticed your post. I am desperate to find my problem. This burning sensation & cough I've had for over 6 months off & on. I'm also training for the shuttle but back in March I couldn't exert myself with cardio. Seen a doc. and he prescribed antibiotics for possible strep. Then back in May it was so bad...they gave me more antibiotics and 2 puffers. Since May, I used the puffers for about 7 weeks and it did help a bit. Now I'm training hill & legs etc., real hard but only at stage 5.....used to run 5k no porblem now, my burning sensation in my throat starts at stage 3 and then just gets worse & worse....flem comes up while I'm running and then I just have a hard time breathing. I'm soo weak when I get to stage 5...I stop and then start coughing for hours later & bring up flem....HELP!! I need to get to stage 7 at least....to pass the 6.5 stage....but I'm getting really discouraged! Have you tried that 4 tsp per day of flax seed oil & other (3 & 6) ? I'm willing to try anything...I am back on the puffers again & see if this can help! I will get on the anti-histamines plus oil and am now taking garlic (diluting it in warm water, gargling & drinking)
Let me know what you have done to help your situation.
Thanks,
Nicole
Let me know what you have done to help your situation.
Thanks,
Nicole
I have this too. I have been gradually trying to improve in the shuttle run, and slowly and progressively i am getting better. I just did the shuttle run up to 7.5 and the pain in my chest was rather bad, and I was coughing etc. But this was previously the case when i was only running up to 5.5. I am currently taking anti-histamines, they do not help. I think more controlled and relaxed breathing helps, and when you become more fit breathing becomes easier at more intensive levels. I have been improving my cardio with bike riding, which is just as good as running for increasing cardio, but also puts less pressure on the body and lungs. So it should help the problem progressively. Interval sprinting may also be good. This has been the case for me anyway.
I also experience this burning sensation at the start of my exercise. If it's the cold air going into my lungs, why have I never had this issue before. The burning is in my lungs, throat and feels like it's inside my toungue- not on the surface. It doesn't feel like acid burn in my throat, it's more of an internal burning sensation like the feeling inside my tongue. In addition, it causes me to wheeze and my inhaler doesn't help as much, and the next few days after this happens, I'll have increased mucus and difficulty breathing.
I have now received 2 private messages about where to get these oils.
You can also make your own by buying 2 bottles of flax and 3 bottles of Sunflower (cold pressed) and mixing them together (pour them back in the bottles after mixing). This will give you almost exactly the optimal 1:2.5 ratio of ALA to LA.
These cold pressed oils are in all health food shops.
One teaspoon a day is all it should take to fix things up.
If you take more than the body needs it just burns off any excess.
An alternative strategy is to take 1 teaspoon in the morning and one at night to maximise coverage.
Over about 4 teaspoons a day it is unlikely you will see any additioanl benefits.
You can have it straight or add to some food (just don't heat it). Keep the oils in the fridge as they are heat sensitive (especially the flax).
:-)
You can also make your own by buying 2 bottles of flax and 3 bottles of Sunflower (cold pressed) and mixing them together (pour them back in the bottles after mixing). This will give you almost exactly the optimal 1:2.5 ratio of ALA to LA.
These cold pressed oils are in all health food shops.
One teaspoon a day is all it should take to fix things up.
If you take more than the body needs it just burns off any excess.
An alternative strategy is to take 1 teaspoon in the morning and one at night to maximise coverage.
Over about 4 teaspoons a day it is unlikely you will see any additioanl benefits.
You can have it straight or add to some food (just don't heat it). Keep the oils in the fridge as they are heat sensitive (especially the flax).
:-)
I get the same burning sensation when I exercise but I know I'm out of shape. How long does it take for your lungs to get back and shape to where I don't get that sensation or get so winded when I work out? Any advice would be helpful, I really want to get in shape but being out of breath makes it hard to keep up.
I appreciate everyones input. I have burning off and on in the front and back of lungs. Most of the time in the morning when I walk the hills around here. Eventually after a half hour it disappears. It does show up again at night even while just lounging in front of a good movie. Comes like little sharp pains but it's more like burning. I'm going try making the lung enviroment more friendly to breathing, more moist, more healthy by watching my diet. Thanks again. JMSun
A mixture of 1/3 Flax seed oil and 2/3 Sunflower oil (cold pressed) will give you the ratio you need.
Alternatively look up Parent Essential Oils (PEO's) which simply mix these oils in the correct ratio's for you.
:-)
Alternatively look up Parent Essential Oils (PEO's) which simply mix these oils in the correct ratio's for you.
:-)
BTW: For those who are curious... I also tried anti-oxidants to stop burning lungs.
Ascorbic Acid didn't help... even though it was immensely useful in other areas. I tried every type of VitC I could get my hands on including mixed and soluble forms (these work brilliantly).
Selenium as seleno methionine (tried all the major forms)... which is hugely useful in improving excercise duration without pain... but didn't fix the chest burning problem.
Also worked my way through VitE (all 8 types)... with no effect on lungs.
VitD.... no effect on lungs.
Paradoxically I do seem to find that if I load up on cocoa it makes my lungs burn worst (cocoa is a very strong anti-oxidant)... but even this has tapered off now that I've got the oils thing sorted.
I've also scanned the forums for answers and nobody seems to have an understanding of the problem.
BTW: Simply taking a deep breath... holding it and pressing out forcefully (while holding it)... will quickly relieve the symptoms... but not the cause.
:-)
Ascorbic Acid didn't help... even though it was immensely useful in other areas. I tried every type of VitC I could get my hands on including mixed and soluble forms (these work brilliantly).
Selenium as seleno methionine (tried all the major forms)... which is hugely useful in improving excercise duration without pain... but didn't fix the chest burning problem.
Also worked my way through VitE (all 8 types)... with no effect on lungs.
VitD.... no effect on lungs.
Paradoxically I do seem to find that if I load up on cocoa it makes my lungs burn worst (cocoa is a very strong anti-oxidant)... but even this has tapered off now that I've got the oils thing sorted.
I've also scanned the forums for answers and nobody seems to have an understanding of the problem.
BTW: Simply taking a deep breath... holding it and pressing out forcefully (while holding it)... will quickly relieve the symptoms... but not the cause.
:-)
Hi,
Finally solved this problem:
The problem appears to be the build up of lactic acid in the lungs: The lungs help burn off lactic acid. However the process seems to fall in a heap when the fats in your cell membranes are the wrong ones. Simply adjusting your cell membranes to improve oxygenation will stop this from occurring. The fat that is associated with oxygenation is LA (Linoleic Acid). LA is in Sunflower and Safflower.
LA is one of the two essential fatty acids (ALA is the other). LA is an Omega6. ALA is an omega 3. If you have these 2 EFA's your body can make all other oils in their correct ratio's. NB. ALA is flax seed. A ratio of 1:2.5 (ALA:LA) is the body's preferred ratio. You only need a teaspoon of oil once or twice a day.
Epithelial cells turn over every 30 days, RBC every 4 months and other cells up to one year or longer. It will take you at least 4 months to maximise the effect... and a year to change all the major cellular oils BTW: You are what you eat... literally.
www.brianpeskin.com is the best explanation of how EFA oils work that I've ever found.
:-)
Finally solved this problem:
The problem appears to be the build up of lactic acid in the lungs: The lungs help burn off lactic acid. However the process seems to fall in a heap when the fats in your cell membranes are the wrong ones. Simply adjusting your cell membranes to improve oxygenation will stop this from occurring. The fat that is associated with oxygenation is LA (Linoleic Acid). LA is in Sunflower and Safflower.
LA is one of the two essential fatty acids (ALA is the other). LA is an Omega6. ALA is an omega 3. If you have these 2 EFA's your body can make all other oils in their correct ratio's. NB. ALA is flax seed. A ratio of 1:2.5 (ALA:LA) is the body's preferred ratio. You only need a teaspoon of oil once or twice a day.
Epithelial cells turn over every 30 days, RBC every 4 months and other cells up to one year or longer. It will take you at least 4 months to maximise the effect... and a year to change all the major cellular oils BTW: You are what you eat... literally.
www.brianpeskin.com is the best explanation of how EFA oils work that I've ever found.
:-)
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Hello!
You are getting this burning pain whenever you are doing these fast sprints. This might be due to contraction of your chest muscles, some gastric acidity problems, mineral imbalance etc.
If you are going at a normal pace and you do not face any symptoms then you have to take proper food and energy drink as in a fresh juice and glucose to provide you energy when you do this fast sprint. Some diet modifications are required to provide you energy for this mile run.
If that does not help then you need to consult a chest specialist for diagnosing of any problem.
Take care!
You are getting this burning pain whenever you are doing these fast sprints. This might be due to contraction of your chest muscles, some gastric acidity problems, mineral imbalance etc.
If you are going at a normal pace and you do not face any symptoms then you have to take proper food and energy drink as in a fresh juice and glucose to provide you energy when you do this fast sprint. Some diet modifications are required to provide you energy for this mile run.
If that does not help then you need to consult a chest specialist for diagnosing of any problem.
Take care!
1.59 mins i mean
Got the same thing and Im only 13 yrs old and i don't know what to do so please email me Coz im reallly worried lmfao coz i wont pass the mile run with that sensation on my lungs... its pretty hard i just felt it today when i ran quarter mile in 1.59 secs tho it went away after 5mins then I ran again.... so wat shoud i do? email me plz Brian_244***@**** Please and thnx
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Try some anti histamines. Try to change to different exercises to find out which one is giving you maximum symptoms. Follow up near a chest specialist, take care!
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