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I understand that fear and propaganda is how you do things in America, but spreading your corrupt GOP lies to the rest of the world, especially doing something as cruel as suggesting that people cannot get treatment for something for political purposes, is pure evil, so if you're not interested in truth, kindly keep your mouth shut.
There is treatment available on the NHS here in the UK, anybody having problems, do not accept somebody telling you that there is no help available.
There is treatment available on the NHS here in the UK, anybody having problems, do not accept somebody telling you that there is no help available.
Yes, I did have the peripheral retina laser. I have often thought this contributed to the CME, even so I find it hard to understand why my CME would not resolve eventually. It has been 2 and 1/2 years since my vitrectomy.
If you are considering laser to remove the more wipsy, wavy clouds in your right eye, I think I would not try it. The laser is good at removing something discrete, but not the membrane-like pieces. As they are attacked by the laser, they can clump and create new and possibly worse floaters. This per Dr. J who did my laser. When I say my floater is 95% gone, it is these cloudy wisps that are left that are the other 5%. He knew these strands were left but chose to leave them alone for fear that they would clump up as I described.
If you are considering laser to remove the more wipsy, wavy clouds in your right eye, I think I would not try it. The laser is good at removing something discrete, but not the membrane-like pieces. As they are attacked by the laser, they can clump and create new and possibly worse floaters. This per Dr. J who did my laser. When I say my floater is 95% gone, it is these cloudy wisps that are left that are the other 5%. He knew these strands were left but chose to leave them alone for fear that they would clump up as I described.
Buttercup,
When you had your vitrectomy, did the surgeon laser the periphery of your retina? This may have something to do with your CME. I had a vitrectomy for floaters (left eye) in Dec. 2009 and so far it has worked out perfect. However this was after 29 years of great difficulty living with this problem.A very well developed PVD helped to make the surgery a success. My right eye also has this problem with no weiss ring but many cloud floaters which may not respond to laser treatment but I may give it a try. I am well regarded photographer so this a not a problem I find easy to accept, although the vitrectomy was nerve wracking.
When you had your vitrectomy, did the surgeon laser the periphery of your retina? This may have something to do with your CME. I had a vitrectomy for floaters (left eye) in Dec. 2009 and so far it has worked out perfect. However this was after 29 years of great difficulty living with this problem.A very well developed PVD helped to make the surgery a success. My right eye also has this problem with no weiss ring but many cloud floaters which may not respond to laser treatment but I may give it a try. I am well regarded photographer so this a not a problem I find easy to accept, although the vitrectomy was nerve wracking.
This statement: "It is not taught by mainstream medical schools because there are no acedemic studies on the practice." is not true. Dr. Karickhoff did all the research and yes it is covered by insurance. He, Dr. Geller and Dr. Johnson have done thousands of these procedures and the only 'failure' is that some blobs were not totally eradicated but in all cases the patient saw an extreme if not 99% improvement in the obstruction being removed.
It's a hell of a lot safer than having the gel sucked out of your eye, now THAT is stupid.
It's a hell of a lot safer than having the gel sucked out of your eye, now THAT is stupid.
Yes you are right BUTTERCUP109: A vitrectomy is invasivie and therefore MUCH more dangerous -- because you are basically altering the composition of your eye and that could cause the structure around it to collapse... while the laser surgery to zap the floater merely breaks up the 'egg white' that is floating around in there but leaves the vitreous solution intact.
I saw my eye doc yesterday and all is well, retina is perfect, but after a time if it does not improve I will visit Dr. K in VA (He's 5 miles outside DC so I can drive there from NH -- you know I'm cautious because I don't fly!) I told him about it and he said it was JUST AS SAFE as any other surgery if not more and he's glad that people can get relief with the procedure.
If they can use lasers to repair the more important parts of the eye, then this that merely touches the gel, is pretty safe.
I am sorry you had to lose function in your other eye, and I too was told that because I'm nearsighted since age 10 the other eye might go that way of PVD too. It is so very annoying and even though the sight itself is not affected, it is OBSTRUCTED.
I hope American health care is not going to go the way of the UK now that wackjob Obama has nationalized it because these 'quality of life' issues will NOT be addressed and perhaps even more serious things for the over 60 crowd.
http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2010/07/07/obama-chooses-his-rationer-in-chief/
I saw my eye doc yesterday and all is well, retina is perfect, but after a time if it does not improve I will visit Dr. K in VA (He's 5 miles outside DC so I can drive there from NH -- you know I'm cautious because I don't fly!) I told him about it and he said it was JUST AS SAFE as any other surgery if not more and he's glad that people can get relief with the procedure.
If they can use lasers to repair the more important parts of the eye, then this that merely touches the gel, is pretty safe.
I am sorry you had to lose function in your other eye, and I too was told that because I'm nearsighted since age 10 the other eye might go that way of PVD too. It is so very annoying and even though the sight itself is not affected, it is OBSTRUCTED.
I hope American health care is not going to go the way of the UK now that wackjob Obama has nationalized it because these 'quality of life' issues will NOT be addressed and perhaps even more serious things for the over 60 crowd.
http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2010/07/07/obama-chooses-his-rationer-in-chief/
I often feel bad that people come to this site for information and and sadly can come away with so much that is inaccurate or incomplete, especially when it comes to the subject of floaters. The doctors on this site will never recommend any type of floater treatment and therefore give an impression to people that is misleading. Such as the perception in this thread that the practice of laser treatment is unsafe. Even my Retina specialist, well-respected, intelligent, trained at Wills Eye, published in numerous journals, on the faculty at the medical school, etc..he never believed there was any danger to the practice and I had his full support. So, it is sad that people come here and go away with false impressions. The doctors on this site continue to say that floaters are always adapted to, while, in truth, there are clearly some cases that are so severe that the floater actually obstructs vision. Again, the words of my highly educated retina specialist, not just me. I've even seen the doctors here tell people that laser removal will never be covered by any insurance. That's strange... since I had a $2000 check which is now safely deposited to my bank account from Blue Cross/Blue Sheild to cover the procedure for which there is an establihed billing code. This what I mean by misinformation.
I was unfortunate enough to have had Weiss rings in both eyes. After the first, I had a vitrectomy. I was referred by my ophthalmologist for this major surgery that truly is risky. The floater went away, yes, but I developed a severe case of chronic macular edema that has left my vision distorted. When the Weiss ring appeared in the other eye, it was even more problematic because I didn't have the other eye to fall back on due to the retina condition. I felt like I had to do something to get rid if the floater. Over a years time, I researched, researched, and researched some more. I saw Dr. K in Virginia. I read his book. I saw Dr. J in California. I read everything he had written. I got answers to every question I had and few I hadn't thought of. In short, it is safe. It is mostly successful, though sometimes not completely. It is a learned skill like becoming a tennis champion more so than an academic discipline, so years of experience doing it is highly important to success.
For me the procedure was 100% safe and about 95% successful. It was the best decision I ever made. What more can I say.
I was unfortunate enough to have had Weiss rings in both eyes. After the first, I had a vitrectomy. I was referred by my ophthalmologist for this major surgery that truly is risky. The floater went away, yes, but I developed a severe case of chronic macular edema that has left my vision distorted. When the Weiss ring appeared in the other eye, it was even more problematic because I didn't have the other eye to fall back on due to the retina condition. I felt like I had to do something to get rid if the floater. Over a years time, I researched, researched, and researched some more. I saw Dr. K in Virginia. I read his book. I saw Dr. J in California. I read everything he had written. I got answers to every question I had and few I hadn't thought of. In short, it is safe. It is mostly successful, though sometimes not completely. It is a learned skill like becoming a tennis champion more so than an academic discipline, so years of experience doing it is highly important to success.
For me the procedure was 100% safe and about 95% successful. It was the best decision I ever made. What more can I say.
You are exactly right.
I can't imagine thinking that a vitrectomy could be considered safe, and lasers are used to re-attach retinas all the time.
Cataract surgery and radial keratotomy are BOTH much more risky.
I won't mention names but a simple web search will give you the names of those dedicated to this procedure.
I'm too young to be blind by this unfortunate mishap I caused. My right eye is fine so far, but if both have this happen, my life and career are over.
I can't imagine thinking that a vitrectomy could be considered safe, and lasers are used to re-attach retinas all the time.
Cataract surgery and radial keratotomy are BOTH much more risky.
I won't mention names but a simple web search will give you the names of those dedicated to this procedure.
I'm too young to be blind by this unfortunate mishap I caused. My right eye is fine so far, but if both have this happen, my life and career are over.
It's a lot safe than having radial keratotomy for nearsightedness! My friend had that and now she's having problems.. I know someone who went blind from it.
Thousands of procedures to zap floaters have been done and with no bad effects, perhaps 3% didn't improve the situation but I'd say that's a good track record.
There is scads of documentation and many research papers available and insurance pays for it so it's been 'cleared' by the proper agencies.
I'd say it's safer than cataract surgery too...
I'd be wary of any doctor who claims they don't know about this or that it's undocumented. With the internet, there is no excuse.
Listen, I'm a baby, not a pill taker (I'm usually allergic to everything and it could kill me) and don't even fly on planes, but I would do this, because otherwise I will become a shut in because I cannot see.
Thousands of procedures to zap floaters have been done and with no bad effects, perhaps 3% didn't improve the situation but I'd say that's a good track record.
There is scads of documentation and many research papers available and insurance pays for it so it's been 'cleared' by the proper agencies.
I'd say it's safer than cataract surgery too...
I'd be wary of any doctor who claims they don't know about this or that it's undocumented. With the internet, there is no excuse.
Listen, I'm a baby, not a pill taker (I'm usually allergic to everything and it could kill me) and don't even fly on planes, but I would do this, because otherwise I will become a shut in because I cannot see.
The reasons why all retina doctors are not doing it is NOT that it is not safe.
The reasons are:
1. It is not taught by mainstream medical schools because there are no acedemic studies on the practice.
2. There are no studies because there is no money to be made from a new drug, device or equipment. The Yag is already FDA approved and there is no profit motivation to extend its use since all eye doctors already have one.
3. Doctors do not want to get involved til the practice is mainstreamed. It likely will not be.
4. The use of the Yag in this way is a learned skill like learning to be good at video games. Until a doctor has perfected the skill, just doing it as an occasional sideline will likely result is less than effective results and some patients will be dissappointed. So why bother.
5. The ones who do it all the time, have learned how to do it the most effectively, although even so, it is sometimes less than completely effective. But SAFE IT IS. At least equally as safe as the long list of procedures done every day by eye doctors around the world.
The reasons are:
1. It is not taught by mainstream medical schools because there are no acedemic studies on the practice.
2. There are no studies because there is no money to be made from a new drug, device or equipment. The Yag is already FDA approved and there is no profit motivation to extend its use since all eye doctors already have one.
3. Doctors do not want to get involved til the practice is mainstreamed. It likely will not be.
4. The use of the Yag in this way is a learned skill like learning to be good at video games. Until a doctor has perfected the skill, just doing it as an occasional sideline will likely result is less than effective results and some patients will be dissappointed. So why bother.
5. The ones who do it all the time, have learned how to do it the most effectively, although even so, it is sometimes less than completely effective. But SAFE IT IS. At least equally as safe as the long list of procedures done every day by eye doctors around the world.
If Yag Laser Surgery was 100% safe to blast out Weiss rings and other floaters every Retina Specialist and every other eye doctor would be doing in. There is risk in this type of treatment for floaters. The percentage increases with other conditions that a patient may have. Everyone having a great outcome isn't always the case. Some patients floater condition are made worse. It it were 100% safe it wouldn't matter what other eye condition a patient had doctors would just blast away.
The only thing that may be 100% safe when it comes to eyes is when you close your lids at night to go to sleep. But you could die in your sleep so perhaps you should have never closed your lids in the first place. I think you get the idea. Things can happen and do happen. 100% safe. No Way
The only thing that may be 100% safe when it comes to eyes is when you close your lids at night to go to sleep. But you could die in your sleep so perhaps you should have never closed your lids in the first place. I think you get the idea. Things can happen and do happen. 100% safe. No Way
Actually the floater ISN'T going to go away and there are a few good doctors who know how to laser them out.
I have a huge Weiss ring and I plan on doing it. It's 100% safe and 90% effective.
Otherwise I won't be able to drive, watch TV, work on computer.
Don't believe that you have to live with the annoyance. It will give you a permanent headache!
I have a huge Weiss ring and I plan on doing it. It's 100% safe and 90% effective.
Otherwise I won't be able to drive, watch TV, work on computer.
Don't believe that you have to live with the annoyance. It will give you a permanent headache!
I had PVD happen a few days ago and I'm not happy about it but there are a few docs who will do laser surgery to zap the blobs. This is safe and effective unlike vitrectomy. The Doc is in VA...
I am going to wait 6 weeks to make sure it doesn't do anything else. I believe I caused it by straining!
I am going to wait 6 weeks to make sure it doesn't do anything else. I believe I caused it by straining!
i was diagnosed with pvd 6 days ago. have had the 3-drop dilated pupils for retinal tear - no tear - thank God - or bleeding. retina looks smooth and OK. do have some extra floaters - had flashes - have minimized and what looks like what you describe as a Weiss ring.
Question: we were supposed to go to Italy/ Sicily in 2 weeks which involves 3 air flights in 1 day to get there - will the pressure from the flights adversely affect this ?
Question: we were supposed to go to Italy/ Sicily in 2 weeks which involves 3 air flights in 1 day to get there - will the pressure from the flights adversely affect this ?
Hi Again; this is barby; i did find out that I have partial pvd; can you get more floaters when it tears more and how long does it take for pvd to be completed? My retina is fine; i am actually getting used to the floaters; they are white lines and squiggles. Some are rather decorative with circles attached to the lines. But what happens when you get complete pvd? The weiss ring seems to be wiggling more; is that a sign that it might tear soon? Thanks for any help again; hope you are doing well: Barby
Also, when they do sink to the bottom; will they not be as noticeable? Thanks Dr. Hagan or any doctor for your answer?
Read Dr. Hagan s post. She is LUCKY to have lost the name and address.
Prince was last see in California, about 3 weeks.
Prince was last see in California, about 3 weeks.
Wow. Then I waslucky, too.Can t imagine that. I lost vision in one eye--rd. I have a weiss ring in the other eye.
Don't think so. It may sink to the bottom by gravity, or disperse a bit, but will always be there. Annoying isn't it? If you got it without any tear to your retina, count your blessing. Mine pulled off with few tears and hole along the way.
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Sometimes but not always. The most you think about it the more it will bother you.
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