Lexima--HOORAY!!! Double trouble! I am so very happy for you :-) Now, you better keep posting here, as we are going to develop abandonment issues.
Helen--Sorry, you are surrounded by people with dry, sarcastic senses of humpr. The good news is that at least we have a sense of humer, eh? (Just keep telling yourself that!)
Dee--My prayers are with you for a safe trip home and a great cycle.
Mary--Yes, it does scare me that we are alike, but what scares me more is weird we both are :-D
Lisa--I hope you have gotten the bulk of your school grading done, as I know it was overwhelming you earlier this week.
Fiona--I am glad you are on track with your suppression. When do you start stimming?
Magda--Wow, how frustrating to have "the men" overtake the appt w/chit-chat and male bonding. Someone here said it may help with the overall dr/patient relationship, so that is a positive. But change amongst all the chaotic TTC process can be very stressful. I don't blame you for being fired up at all. Just try to relax now, as it is so important. Plus, you are going to see your sister!!!! Yay!!!!
I am feeling great today at exactly 6 weeks pg! A week from tomorrow is my sonogram. . . seems like forever
Thank you everyone for your encouragement and support. You are all such wonderful, supportive, encouraging ladies. I look forward to reading your comments and hearing what is going on with each of you everyday. I feel badly that I've been unable to respond to each of you individually lately. Just know I am thinking of you and ALL of you are in my prayers.
Lexima: Woohoooo....CONGRATULATIONS!! Please don't leave us again, like Heather said we'll develop abandonment issues.
Update on me. u/s sort of disappointing. Just 2 little follies. So, I guess I'm out of the running for AGP's next top follie model. Once grading week is over I'll be in touch with you all again!!
Lisa: That really blows. I wish there was something I could say, just know that I completely understand.
Helen: Have fun at your injection class today. You know we are all here to answer any questions you may have. The one thing I found out (from dh actually) is that IM injections should be done quickly and definitively rather than tentatively. Slower is more painful. I have heard of people practicing on oranges, just to get the feel of breaking the skin.
G_S: Wow, do you have to shop at the plus size follie store? More power to you girl
Dee: One more day for b/w. You know we're all pulling for you
Fifi: Meds on Saturday. I am excited for you
Heather: Just one more week! Yeah! Then we'll know how many new additions to the cyber family we'll have.
Well, I have dinner plans tonight with a bunch of people I used to work with. At first, I was somewhat dreading it. I still have not returned to my usual cheerful, laughing, making fun of everybody self. I realized just now, though, that nobody who is going out tonight has children or is pregnant. I am really relieved. No awkward conversations, no feigning excitement, no looking at adorable baby pictures. I guess I'll actually have some fun. Very cool.
I got my meds today along with all of the paraphernalia in a huge FedEx box. I can’t believe I will be injecting all of that into myself. I also got my shot lesson out of the way which was a bit overwhelming with all of the different drugs and needles. Dh came with me and of course he tried to embarrass me as much as he could. First, he told the nurse that it’s his dream to stick long needles into my *** and then he said that he is willing to pay 10K for the pleasure. He keeps telling me how he can hardly wait to do those IM progesterone in oil shots that come with a long thick needle to allow for the oil. Overall, I was overwhelmed while he looked like a kid in a candy store looking at all of the different syringes and needles and winking at me. We also did our blood tests today that are required before we start ivf.
I asked the nurse about my breakthrough bleeding and she said that it can be a problem and she will let my doc know about it but I should not worry :)
good luck to you this cycle!!!
Also, congrats on your impressive biggest follie win :) You deserve a trophy!
have a safe trip home! Also good luck on your blood test tomorrow. I hope you can finally start those injectables.
thank you for your advice. I'll pass it on to my dh although I am not sure if minimizing the pain is his goal anymore...
Helen: That box of meds can be overwhelming, can't it. Just remember, if they sent you any 18 guage needles, they should only be used to draw up the PIO into the syringe. They would hurt way too much if you used them to inject yourself. OUCH
Mary--Have fun tonight. You deserve it! I'm glad you have some "normal" friends who don't just talk about eggs, sperms, shots, babies. . .
Helen--Your dh and mine should go bowling! Chris (my dh) is always perverted about the weirdest stuff. It's never a dull moment with him! Good luck with your shots, and don't worry, once you get everything organized and do it a couple of times it won't be so bad.
I am feeling kinda yucky again. I got a bad headache last night, and woke up at 3 am and almost got very ill. I had to call and get some nausea medecine. I am also havong pretty major cramping, which worries me. I did some research and it is fairly normal, but it still makes me nervous.
I was going to say the same thing as Mary about the injections. When they are done quickly and deliberately they are virtually painless. I used to train horses and had to give lots of shots for various reasons, I remembered having to give them their shots quickly so they really didn't know what hit them. But, when I would try to give them gently and slowly, boy could I tell the difference in how the horses reacted. So, when it came time for me to give myself the injections I did them quickly. You'll virtually feel nothing.
Dee, I am soooo hoping your able to start your meds tomorrow!!!!
Jen, I am soooo hoping to hear about your BFP on Saturday!
Mary, It is so very good to have you back. I understand the need to pull back when things become overwhelming. I'm getting there myself. I'm feeling like just giving up. I keep thinking I am just crazy to remain holding out hope and I REALLY should have done this years ago. I just need to accept that my time has passed. But, then there is something inside me that just pushes me to keep going. I'm glad that you've gotten your spirit back and are feeling more optimistic.
Fiona, You're done with b/c now and starting injections?
Heather, I'm sorry you are having a hard time. It seems this journey doesn't necessarily get easier with a BFP, the challenges of the journey just shift in a new direction. I hope the nausea meds are working/helping.
OMG, I've had 3 people at work come up to me and ask me if I'm either having a baby or trying to have a baby! I am soooo very upset that somehow the word got out. I don't know how I can handle any more people asking me "How are you feeling down there?", or, "Did you get your sperm yet?", or "Do you feel pregnant?". One of my supervisors came to me today and told me she saw me on the phone with my dr. yesterday and felt that I was just "glowing" and so would I just trust her and confide in her that I'm having a a baby? I COULD NOT BELIEVE THIS!! The entire conversation was in the hallway with students and staff just passing by. First of all, my appt. was not a happy one, so I guess I was overcompensating at work and trying to be pleasant yesterday when she felt I was "glowing". Then while in a meeting she began telling me about her brother whose wife is having a baby this weekend and that she gets to go in with her during her c-section because she wants the moral support, and yadda, yadda, yadda about the joy of motherhood and babies. I was really having a hard time hearing yet another one of these stories and I tried very hard to be positive and supportive. Well, it must have worked because my supervisor also said the way I lit up when she was talking about her brothers baby she just knew I was either pregnant or trying to be pregnant. I can not express how much I do not want the entire staff to know my baby business. This is just going to make this journey that much harder. But, I had to come clean with her because the buzz around the building was that I have cancer, or some horrid life threatening disease because of all the dr. appts. and phone calls.
Well, I guess lots of people have worse things to deal with in life and I should just "buck up!"
OK: lightening things up. Are you all watching AI? Who do you think is going home? I guess most of you know since you're time zones are all ahead of mine. Tonights elimination night. Sparky and I will be watching....
So I had my bloods and the results are in - apparently i just ovulated. Progestrone is at 36.8 today and it was 3.8 this time last week. Is that right? It seems mighty high. I was expecting A/F in 4 days.
Wow Dee, (dancing, dancing, dancing around the room!!!) That is a GREAT number!! You've defintely ovulated!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess AF is going to be more than 4 days away. Oh, you're back with DH....Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Better get to work and get that egg taken care of! Does this mean you'll start the spray now?
Firstly i want to say to you - that I admire you greatly. You are undertaking such a big challenge on your own and you truly are a strong woman. Whatever people say around you, know that the fact that you are here at this point was because you didnt succumb to any pressure. You made up your mind and went into this 100% heart and soul. Know you always have us to vent to whatever people say - &%$# them.
Thanks for replying so quick. The clinic is convinced i wont get my period for another week - is that right? So do my numbers indicate I have just ovulated? I know that the clinic is expecting anything above 10 on non medicated (which is me) and 15 medicated.
glad you got the green light! If last week your progesterone was low and only now it went up then you most likely O'd late. Average LP is around 14 days so you will probably not have AF for at least a week. But there is progress and you are off to a new beginning, injectables.
your supervisor has no right to know your medical problems or your personal life. Those are private! Sounds like she was using her position as a supervisor to elicit information from you that she had no right to know. I am so sorry you have to go through this. Sometimes I don't understand how people can be so insensitive but I guess unless they struggle with infertility they just don't have a clue. I am with Dee in Lisa's fan club. I truly admire the fact that you manage to deal with all of the problems that come your way with so much grace and courage.
Lisa--Oh honey that is soo the last thing you need right now. It's hard enough putting on a brave face when people don't know what is going on, but when they have their nose in your business it's even worse. And at work, too. Ugh. I hope this blows over and some other topic for discussion arises elsewhere. Maybe you should let people think something else is going on medically instead of TTC. You are not obligated to reveal your personal business to strangers or bosses. I'd simply say :"It's something I was exploring, but right now I am focused on another personal issue that I'd rather keep personal."
Dee--I'd say you definately ovulated, but do you know when? My progestrone was in the mid-40s last I checked, and that was super-high. I know I O'd with six follicles that time. Did you get a chance to bd during ovulation? Maybe you're doing that now (hee hee). Anyway, most women start af around 2 weeks after O, but that can be shorter or longer depending on the length of your usual cycle.
I had kind of an emotional breakdown today, as the cramping has gotten pretty bad and I started thinking the worst. All the tragic posts I have seen on this forum seemed to rise in my mind, and I keep going to the restroom looking for blood. Isn't that awful???? I thought I was doing OK with that issue, but it crept up on me. Waiting until next week for my u/s is really getting to me. I just want to know what is going on. Maybe I'll call and see if I can do it earlier. Lexima did hers at 6 weeks, 3 days, and I will be 6 weeks, 2 days tomorrow.
I reckon I ovulated 4 days ago but not too sure and i wouldnt have caught the eggie as I was away from DH overseas. I did an OPK strip just in case today and no LH surge. I get to start the nasal spray tonight as per my protocol.
I totally get what you mean about the posts that have bad news in them. I know after my previous 2 failed pregnancies that I will be holding my breath for the whole 9 months. I think all of us in this journey have emotionally and physically invested so much into TTC that our hearts just get ripped out so damn easily. But while i understand your feelings, I want you to know that you will be totally ok. You are going to hold a healthy baby/ies in your arms and be the happiest mum in the world. You are going to make it Heather.
On the U/S bit, you only know how comfortable youre going to be keeping with the original U/S date. I do read posts where u/s has been scheduled too early and bring a whole different lot of issues. But you will need to do what eases your mind I think.
I am so sorry about your emotional breakdown. I do hope that you are feeling better today. However, I think that Dee is correct in pointing out that they can see better what's going on if you wait just a little bit (not that I am an expert though!!)
Cramping in early pregnancy is very common and since your morning sickness kicked in that means that your HCG is going strong. You know, when I first came to this forum I read a story from a poster who was very early in her pregnancy (just like you) and had so much painful cramping that she went to ER. They checked her out and told her that her uterus was expanding to make room for triplets. Perhaps you are expecting twins and your body is making a similar adjustment. Just a thought...
Helen, Heather and Dee, Thank you so much. I feel that you are the ladies with the strength, resilience and optimisim that I greatly admire, so to have your support is just the greatest thing to me!!!
I was very caught off guard and I do not like her knowing, or anyone else at work for that matter. I really am not very close with her and don't know her very well which makes it even more difficult. She's only been with our staff since January. Anyhow, I do know I just need to roll with the punches, the cat's out of the bag and I can't change it so I might as well just get used to it. I do work with mostly wonderful people and I know they won't be judgmental and I'm holding onto that as the bright side.
Dee, You most likely o'ed about a week ago. It takes about 7 days for the prog. to rise after o. But, in terms of that being a good number. That is a GREAT number!!!
Speaking of numbers, do any of you know about E2 numbers? The nurse told me the injectables were working based on my E2 which went up to 176 from 60. Could that mean the quality of these eggs are better?
Well, I'm moving very slow this morning. Feeling lethargic and tired but I better get my bu$$ in gear and get Sparky walked and head to work to finish grading. No kiddos today!!! Yippee, just grading, planning, organzing and filing. I'm going out for a Margarita or a Lemon Drop after work today. Can't wait!!!
My temps have remained high even through AF. They haven't dropped below 98.5 in 4 weeks or more, until today. I'm down to 97.4, so I'm a little concerened I'm ovulating. I have a u/s tomorrow am, so I guess it'll tell me something.
Heather I'm sorry about the cramping. I do know it's easy to worry with all the posts we read about m/c. But, cramping is very normal in early pg and doesn't necessarily mean there is a problem. Your uterus has a lot of stretching and adjusting to do to prepare for the growing fetus and this is what causes the cramping. If you are having twins, then that would mean just more stretching and possibly more cramping as well. You aren't having any bleeding and that is very good also. I know it is easier said than done and even though I'm requesting it, I know you may not be able to do it, but as they say "Please do not worry". I do hope you are able to change your appt. though just because I know the date bothered you. If for no other reason than to NOT give yourself yet another thing to worry about, I think you should just change the day. Even if it's onlya day earlier. I'm sure everything is fine with you and I will be praying for you!!
I think Helen and I were posting at the same time. I just read her post and wanted to "piggy back" on what she said about morning sickness. I have read that early morning sickness is a sign of a strong pregnancy. That is just one more thing leaning in your favor. I am confident this is a strong pregnancy and you and baby(s) are just fine based on all of your early symptoms.
Thanks so much for your reassurances. I respect your opinions and know you wouldn't just say what I want to hear and blow sunshine up my butt. (Bizarre image. . .) I am going to keep my original appt. for next week.
Anyway, I am doing so much better this morning. I guess the hormones really do come in waves and surges, because when I get the cramping, flushing, sickness, even more sore bbs, etc., I get very anxious and emotional also. Having your feedback has calmed my fears immensly. Thanks cyber-homies :-)
Heather, hang in there. I'm sure everything is fine and what you're feeling is very normal. I'm sure you could change the appt and it will ease your mind.
Lisa, good luck with your u/s tomorrow. Sorry to hear about your nosy work colleagues. I don't understand people like that, why to they feel your business is theirs? Tell them to go f*&k themselves (excuse the language).
Dee, good luck with spray tonight. When do you start injectables?
I'm very excited to start injectables tomorrow, yipee!!! Have u/s and b/w on Wednesday.
Lisa: I am sorry to hear about yur ordeal at work. This whole TTC thing is hard enough without external pressure from people who you never confided in in the first plaace. Whenever I hear of people doing things like this, I think back and wonder if I was ever such an idiot. I sure hope not.
Dee: Happy spraying. Do injectables follow shortly?
Fiona: It's so great that you are starting tomorrow. Waiting to start a cycle is torturous.
Heather: Sorry about the cramping. I just want to echo what everyone elsse already stated. Although I am no expert, I have heard the same complaint form virtually every pregnant friend I've ever had. While it is uncomfortable, it is very common. My understanding is that cramping, when not accompanied by bleeding, is nothing to worry about. Cramping with bleeding can also be fine, but it should be checked out. I don't think you should change your appointment, but if you are really concerned, why don't you call your RE?
Feel better. By the way, thank you so much for using one of my all time favorite expressions: "blow sunshine up my butt"
Fiona--Thanks, hon. I am just keeping the u/s for next Thursday. I have no cramping today, and although still a little queasy and a very tired, am fine. My emotions seem to be more logical also. Good luck with injectables!!!! :-)
Mary--Thanks also for your reassurances. Your "medical" opinion counts a whole lot with me, plus your no-nonsense attitude. I really dpn't want to change the appt, as I will look like more of a nut job than I already am :-D
Anyway, thanks again--especially for not blowing sunshine up my butt. (Hee Hee)
Lisa--If you read this just know I am thinking about you. I'm sorry you have had such a stressful week. Are you doing anything relaxing this week end?
Fifi - how weird but i found that website yesterday when i was trying to look up my levels.
Lisa- E2 levels are a mystery to me but I do see the nurses next week and I will see what I can dig up.
So I have done my nasal spray last night and this morning. I am doing them twice daily and then I will start injectables when AF comes some time next week I gather. While the brand name is Synarel, the active ingredient is nafarelin that decreases LH and FSH so that they can take over my body pretty much on the injectables. Feel very the mouse I can tell you. I havent had any symptoms but the squirting up my nose and subsequent yuckiness down the back of my throat isnt much fun.
So in keeping with Lisa's night out, I thought I should get her to drink a few of my favourite cocktails: Long Island Teas, Mojitos, Margarita.
Lisa U/S - 5th March (done with nosy staff alert)
Helen - shot lesson 6th March (done with husband willing to pay money for the pleasure)
Deepa - bloods 7th March (spraying stuff in nose)
FiFi - med 8th March (yay - starting today)
Jen - testing 8th March (yay - Jen need an update)
Magda - first shot 12th March (whats the price your DH is willing to pay to poke you?)
Heather - U/S 13th March (healthy baby/ies)
Mary - testing 17th March (hold that pee)
Oh, Dee you are so good with comic relief! If only you knew getting me drunk is so very easy to do! One drink and I'm done. Usually, one lemon drop and I'm calling my ex boyfriend to come drive me home. lol.
You can add my u/s Sat. am (March 8th) also.
Heather & Fifi:
Thanks for a the info.
I have a few loose ends to tie up at work and then I'm off for drink! Notice I didn't say drink(s) becuase then I would be under the table!!! BUT< I must tell you virgin mojitos are very good. At least the way I make them they are. I made them all summer for my little guest that graces me with his presence occassionaly. He doesn't drink alcohol so I made virgin drinks. The mojitos were our favorites! When I get home if I'm not so soused I'll look up the info. on E2 levels.
Mary, You are too funny. I'll try not to blow any smoke up your arse at any time. (-:
Heather, LOL, that's right it's the sunshine. It's too sweet and well....sunny for our little Mary. Smoke is defintely more her style.
Mojitos: 3 parts Club soda(or tonic water), 1 part lime juice (freshly squeezed lime juice maybe 2 limes). a few teaspoons of sugar and fresh mint leaves. Very, very refreshing!! I prefer the tonic water, though you'll need more sugar with the tonic. You can also add a little Rose's Lime juice with the fresh squeezed lime. If you mull a sliver of lime rind, sugar cube, and mint leaves your doing it like a true mixologist AKA bartendar. One of my many occupations before teaching. Yum....I am starting a craving here....
Dee, I just realized you must be thinking my little guest is my ex boyfriend. Nope, my little guest is someone who I would like to be my current boyfriend, though we haven't added boy to the friend part to form that compound yet. (-:
oh lisa how exciting!!!! I sure hope it all works out - just keep plying him with all your great cooking and bartending skills. I mean what else does he want! I am living vicarously through you now seeing that I am now officially infertile and unemployed. If you play that linebackwards it would a sad country song.
Ha ha ha....Thanks for the big laugh Dee. We were posting at the same time and I just read it. Got a great laugh before turning in for the night. I'm feeling ok down there, thanks for asking. (laughing very hard right now!) We are bad girls.
Well, my parents are coming to visit us for spring break. This morning I am frantically cleaning and hiding all of the evidence of ttc. My box of ivf meds is hidden in the closet, my leftover OPK's are in a shoe box, ivf consent forms are on the bottom of a drawer and I already forgot where I stashed my clomid. All of the evidence of infertility is gone and I am getting ready to put on my happy face. I will not be checking in very often for a while but will check on everyone's progress at night (my parents go to bed very early).
Fiona - How goes the meds? Did you start them today?
Jen - How goes the BFP?!?!?!?!!? Did you test today???
Mary - How goes things???
Dee/Helen: How goes the drink?
Heather: Easy on the sour, heavy on the mint? Have you had your v.mojito yet?
U/S was fine today, a bit painful. But, I guess that's just the case with me. However this dr. is very quick. So, even if it is painful, it doesn't last long. 2 follies growing strong. They gave me a shot of something to take tonight to stop ovulation. Because my temps are so erratic we want to be sure I don't o too early. So, I've two shots to do tonight. Go in again Sun am for another u/s and then we'll see about the trigger. I don't know how big they are wanting the follies to be. One is 18 x 19, the other 15 x 17. Looks like u/s monitoring every day from here on out. E2 levels still rising which is a very good sign. I found out E2 helps determine how mature your eggs are. Anything about 200 per egg means they are mature enough for ovulation. I'm at 596 today, so I'll bet they'll have me trigger tomorrow. That means I'll o on cd 12, much earlier than from being on Clomid. Typically I would O on cd 16. Guess I better get some good plans written out for morning subs this week.
Helen--Good Luck with your parents and their questions, hon. Hopefully they'll be on good behavior. And, although you are not totally thrilled about it, Happy Birthday, too :-)
Lisa--I O'd earlier on Injectable, also. Sounds like you have a couple of ripe ones there! I know you are disappointed, but try not to give up hope. Remember, Tanker Chic got pg with two follies! Did you ask them about doing 2 IUIs?
So I am slowly getting used to squirting stuff up my nose. Still makes me gag though. Last night I had the biggest bowl of icecream as an excuse ...haha.
Helen - my life as a country singer would be quote bizzare. Imagine an Indian girl singing ole country western. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!
Lisa - wow your estrogen levels look good then. 2 follies are good my friend. at least they are there. Dont give up yet. I have been reading up on back to back IUIs and i think its worth giving it a shot as Heather says. I havent found specific numbers on their success yet but maybe you should post that question.
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