DOES CORNELL DO IVF TO WOMEN AFTER AGE 40?

[Jackson_Angel]

Were told today "TOO OLD TO DO IVF" ~ "CORNELL DOESN'T do after 40" there is NO WAY ETHICALLY ANYONE WOULD TAKE A CHANCE...STATISTICS HAVE OBLITYERATED ANYONE AFTER 40 FROM GETTING AN IVF UNLESS THERE WAS TUBAL PROBLEMS OR A VASECTOMY REVERSAL PROBLEMS ~ "EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES" ~ "THEY" "STOPPED DOING IVF ON ANY WOMAN OVER 40 YEARS AGO"..??.. ~ DO YOU KNOW OF THIS INFORMATION..??........(.I WAS TOLD TO ASK THE OTHER RE WHO IS SO WELL-PUBLICIZED IN NJ OF THIS INFORMATION , ETC....TOLD HIM I'D RATHER NOT DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE UNCOMFORTABLE FEELING WE GOT ).........??........SO WE WERE DIRECTED TO PICK OUT A DONOR MOM'S EGG ~ FOUND ONE WHO REASONABLY RESEBLES ME ~ DUE TO THE "CERTAINTY" OF DOWNS, ETC.......MOST PREGNANCIES "AT YOUR AGE" END IN MISCARRIAGES...........NICE POSITIVE TALK ~ AN THERE WAS NO WAY HE WOULD EVEN CONSIDER DOING AN IVF WITH MY OWN EGGS........ SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BEING BACKED INTO THE NEVER-ENDING DONOR EGG SITUATION AROUND HERE THAT NO-ONE WANTS TO HELP US TO CONCEIVE OUR OWN CHILD WITHOUT A DONOR AND WITH OUR OWN CHROMOSOMES.................

DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?

[angelbaby_09]

I'm 45 and CD32/16DP3DT/19DPER.

My 1st beta came in low at 15 - but the nurse said it was probably because the embie implanted late.

I went for my 2nd beta toady - waiting for the results.

[A_Muse4u]

Those are some mighty-fine words-of-wisdom there!  :)

DH & I are praying for DET #2 to happen nxt. mo.  Hopefully/prayerfully, we will have our blessed Valentine-baby.  We're just waiting for AF to knock on the door, see our Doc, prepare the womb for conception/reception and VOOALAH!  My body rejected the 3 embies in Oct. 2008 due to DH's blood being Pos. & mine being Neg.  My antibodies built-up and destroyed/rejected all 3.  At first, we tried w/my eggs.  Doc informed us that I didn't have correct size.  They wouldn't/didn't grow.  All we wanted/needed were 3 and they didn't mature.  So, we turned right-around and inquired about donor-eggs.  DH & I had discussed everything b4 venturing ivf all-in-all anyway.  We both reaLLy wanted my dna, BUT . . .we knew that if we couldn't we'd go along w/donor eggs.  Whoever God decides to bless us with . . . is truly an angel from heaven.  Our baby is loved and will be loved whenever he/she is delivered to us, amen.  

Baby Dust To Us All, amen.  O:-)  !!!HAPPY BLESSED NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!  

[astrocat88]

Take a look at the www.sart.org stats.  Your RE was obviously tactless otherwise you would not have been so offended (understandably!) but nevertheless, she/he was looking out for you.  The stats are dismal at our age.  You must check out www.sart.org or the Center for Disease Control and Prevention.  On these sites you will see the stats for live births in our age group.  I do not know how much money you have (this certainly is a factor) nor your level of stamina but if I were an RE, and knowing all I know now, I would advise everyone 40+ to seriously consider an ovule donor.  OK, you try it once with your own ovules, but then MOVE ON to a protocol that provides significantly better results (not only in live births but in the health of the baby!).  Unfortunately, this is a reality.  Maybe, 10 years from now, having a baby in our age group will not be difficult, but with our own ovules, it is today.  It is a hard, HARD, fact to face, and one I have gone through myself, but it is absolutely true.  Go to a calm, serene place, and think about this with your head and not your heart (there is no doubt what your heart wants!).  Baby dust to you 1000x!

[rene67]

I think the biggest issue here is egg quality.  After 43, there is dramatic decline and your chance of miscarriage is 50%, mainly due to poor eggs.

But if you can find a clinic that will do IVF w/your own eggs, you understand the risks and are willing to pay for it, I don't think its ethically wrong.  Yes, your chances of Downs is high (like 1/30...but that's still only 3-4%) and you may miscarry.  But you still have a chance.  If you don't want to use donor just yet, I'd go for it trying with your own eggs if you can find a clinic, but consider donor if it doesn't work.

I do see some docs pushing donor eggs pretty frequently though.  I'm 40 but have had 3 m/c since age 38, so some docs have suggested it.  Fortunately, my RE thinks we still have a decent chance trying on our own and we should only consider donor if we have another loss.

[ms320]

Just an FYI out there to all women 40 and older.  Cornell DOES, in fact, work with women our age.  Not only do they work with women over 40, but they are known as one of the high FSH friendly clinics.  I have met many women there who became patients at Cornell only after being turned away by other clinics because of age, FSH level and/or "poor response."
Don't give up - there are options if you want to TTC with your own eggs.

[Savanha]

Baby Prayers...

Did give info that I've come accross as far as there are clinics that will do them up to age 45, you just have to search until you find the one that will work for you. Also...she made a good point about the money situation as far as insurance coverage or out of pocket expense. My insurance covered me for 3 ivf's 100%, but I did not get a BFP. You know that I am 44 because we talk, but If I didn't have the 3 ivf's full coverage w/my own eggs...I'm not sure how I would've handled it. I responded very well to the drugs...all the RE's were impressed, but I still didn't get a BFP. However, I did 7 IUI's(all injectables) (all my tx's were from age 41(late) -going on 42 til now) and of the 7, became preg via the IUI's (x2) instead of the IVF's. Unfortunately, you know they ended in mc's.  I'm not sure if it the stress on the body from the meds or what. I was sooo curious as to how I got preg via IUI & not IVF.

At any rate...the other VERY important point "BP" made was that if you are not sure about Donor, it isn't fair to the baby you will birth, nurse & raise. ;o) I'm not trying to be negative...you & I talk, but it would be like adopting & not really knowing if you were really ready for someone who isn't of your DNA. I say all this to you because I was just like you and am still at the point where I have to make absolutely sure I've done ALL I can to conceive a baby that is of my own body b-4 I do donor. I am sooooo happy that I've reached this peaceful state because I know that after I've done all that I know to do, I can move forward with a donor. Thing is...not sure if  "BP" has, but I've never had a baby of my own body, so I'm definitely sure and it is a good place to be in.

I'm so sorry about your experiences, but I was the same way for a long while...didn't really care what the RE's said. I thank God though that I never had an RE tell me that  my baby might have downs or be deformed. WOW! I know too many women over 40 who have beautiful, healthy babies w/o any problems, so I'm just not believing that one. Yes...possiblities (problems), but that can be with any pregnancy/child. So...make sure it is RIGHT for you. You know my story & when I've gone as far as I can go, then it's in another direction. I hope this encourages girlfriend, because it isn't meant to discourage.

Cheers~
Savanha~~

[babyprayers]

IVF has and can be done on women over 40 with their own eggs. but as you had posted yourself, the risks REALLY do outweigh the benefits.. as we all know womens reproductive systems age I know you do not want to use donor eggs, and I know you feel you are being pushed into that direction, I look at from this perspective, The RE know best... many people can only afford one round of IVF, I did 6 IUI with no luck, My FSH was perfect, but my RE told me, based on how you responded to the meds with IUI your chance of conception with your own eggs was only 10-15 percent,, I weighed the pros, and cons, I wanted a baby, so we opted for donor eggs, and I am now 5 1/2 ,months pregnant with twins,, donor eggs are not for everyone, and if you are really doubting using them then I would not.. I know CNY fertility in syracuse Ny. will do IVF with your own eggs up to I believe 45 years old, BUT>... you sign waivers that they are not responsible for any abnormality that happens., hope this helps!!!

[sprout1029]

your fsh maybe to high to produce good quaility eggs.  i am 44yo and tried one treatment of follistim produce one egg good size with two iui's with bfn, just completed ivf with donor eggs (graceful conception) you can look at that the website w/o a charge.  i will go back on monday for a second beta test.  i wish you the best of luck.

lisa

[Jackson_Angel]

He wasn't rude to me ~ he was actually very nice ~ but the information he gave us I felt was rude ~ he said "ethically we cannot do an IVF with your eggs ~ it has too much of a possibility for miscarriage and deformities, etc...."

[Cheesecake7]

I do not know much about IVF, but I would go and find a completly new doctor. I know that there are women on this forum who are over 40 and have undergone IVF. Aside from your doctors advice, it sounds like he was quite rude to you, and you shouldnt be forced to see a doctor with whom you are not comfortable or who is rude to you, because there are some wonderful RE's out there who will treat you with some respect.