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Vagus nerve

I am having  the similar problems.  I feel dizzy and then my heart starts racing and I feel like I need to have a bowel movement. It is very scary.


This discussion is related to VAGUS NERVE and STOMACH or HEART LURCHES (spasms).
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Wow, is it sure good to here vegas nerve comments.  I also stumbled onto this website.  Have had the gerd, some heart palps, stomach lurches, anxiety, small hiatal hernia, arm and finger numbness, diarhea, breathing issues and my biggest problem of sleep starts/jumps/gasps all seeming to originate down by the middle of chest area. 42, male, have lost about 30 pounds in last 5 years, which is good but have driven people in my life nuts including myself.   I have a strong belief that the vegas nerve is the culprit, and after coming across this page I believe it more than ever...am considering chiropractic help but now real sure what path to take any more.  Big hugs to all!!  and someday we will get to the bottom of our problems.

Paul.
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Hi there,
I am a former Intensive/Coronary Care and Emergency RN but for the past 15 years have been  on the other side of the fence as an energy clinician.  Energy medicine works with the body's energy, ultimately the human body's nuts and bolts. Rather than dealing with symptoms we look for the cause of the problems!  I have been having all the symptoms you guys refer to since as far back as I can remember (I'm 54).  I am teaching my students of my theory of the super importance of the Vagus Nerve.  I am currently conducting research into this and how energy medicine can help. I'm astounded with what I see and how it all seems to relate back to the Vagus Nerve and more. Keep you posted.
Bx
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my personal experience began in feb 08. woke up one morning with chest pains. had no previous problems.  doc treated it like ulcer and put me on previcid 30 mg. chest continued to hurt. in april i got to where i couldn't swallow the pills anymore. had to take them apart and put in applesauce. had constant dirareaha. lost 15 lbs. only weighed 128. june 08 had EGD. tell me i have barretts esophagus with no prior symptons.  double the previcid which had never worked. could nt eat anything. pretty much lived on baked potatoes and pasta  for months. in july my heart started skipping and palpatating and chest and left arm pain. i can sympathize with all of you. that will cause stress which causes more palpatations which is a vicious cycle.  had all the cardio tests including EKG, echo, cardiolite adn the heart cath too. valves all good, no clots, no clogs, no heart issues.  So why is my heart not beating right???  taking xanax to calm me down because it is so stressful.  makes me tired, no energy. went back to the digestive doc last week. here is what i am learning.  the swollen esophagus from GERD and acid is putting pressure on the vagus nerve which goes around and intertwines with the heart causing the palpatations and skipped beats. he switched me to prilosec which has FINALLY taken away the chest pain THANK GOD and put me on a anticholinergies drug. it is suppose to inhibit the action of the vegus nerve on the heart. only been on it for 7 days so far. He said there was no quick fix and it would take awhile. have also found that taking apple cider vinegar and honey mixed together will help aid digestion by naturally producing bicarbonate which is your bodies natural antacid.  Which is also the main ingrediant in baking soda..  A dill pickle will also help with the chest pain by causing the same effect.  I hope my money and experience will help some of you out.
God bless
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I too have suffered with the same symptoms, relieved to know its not just in my head as some people make it out to be or that Im over sensitive. My childern have seen me when I have these "attacks" as I call them. They have seen me turn completely white, almost pass out and sometimes my hand or hands turn purple. Certain foods make my attacks come on or sometimes activity. I sometimes would even have difficulty walking across the yard. Im a 36 year old female, always have been very active, pretty fit and healthy. This has been very devestating to deal with.  I went to a med doctor last year and was tested for H pylori and it was a positive. I did not take the antibiotics for it. I have lost wieght, which I was thin to begin with.  I too have the dizzyness, pain down arms and legs, have upper chest pressure, heart palpatations, sometimes have to go to the bathroom right away (sometimes after I have a bowel movement it helps), strange feelings of my nerves pulsating- sometimes on the top of my head sometimes near my left shoulder blade or on the bottom of my left foot. Very odd symptoms and no medical doctors want to listen. I started seeing a chiropractor last year for another reason which I thought was unrelated. And it was the best thing for me.I told him about all my strange symptoms at the first appointmen and he helped me right away.  My symptoms started to go away and I was able to get back to my normal activities, and felt better than I ever had in my life. Couldn't believe I was walking around in such misery for so long!! I since moved and have went about 2 1/2 months without going to the chiropractor and guess what-- symptoms slowly started to creep back. Then 2 weeks ago I had to call 911, my heartrate was extremely fast and I was dizzy and very sick. I was alone at the time and couldn't get ahold of anyone so I called 911. My heart rate was over 137 and it lasted for almost 3 hours. The hospital did an EKG, and blood work which both turned out fine. I explained to them I thought it was all related to my stomach but never had my heartrate up this high and for this long,,,and could not get it to calm down.  The ER doctor thought I may have had a panic attack and I know I didn't and he seemed to just brush it off like I was crazy, (which maybe thats up for debate!!) They said maybe its a peptic ulcer and recommended I have tests done. Yeah right.  So I found a chiropractor in my area and went to him 2 times so far ,once a week and the heart palpatations have gone and the funny feeling in my chest and the pain down my arms and legs have also gone. I still get some upper gas pressure but not like it was getting again after not going to the chiropractor for those couple of months. I think there must be a connection with digestion and the vagus nerve but what is the cause, the stomach acid irritating the nerve or the nerve making the stomach produce more acid and the symptoms. Hmm interesting , I hope this has helped and maybe we can start to understand our bodies and hopefully get some answers somewhere. Im glad I found these postings it sure has helped knowing that Im not imagining this. Thanks, Melissa
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I have had this problem for about 13 years now , It started when I was about 27. I can still remember my first attack. It was right after eating a fairly large meal at Olive Garden. I felt the thumping of the heart skips, got sweaty, heart racing, caused panic, etc. I went to the hospital, all fine other than elevated blood pressure.

After that I suffered pretty badly with it for about 2 years, thinking I had all kinds of problems, saw a number of doctors etc.  One actually told me it was a vagus nerve "attack". Those words did not connect until past year or so.  I started to learn to live with it.

It seemed to get better for a while (happening less frequently) but it would sometimes come back with a vengance but would seem to go into mangeable remission for long stretches.  Now over the past year or so it happens ALOT. I will sit there and analyze what is happening and I have come to the same conclusions as so many of you, it is the vagus nerve being out of whack or pressure on it,  if I can just find the pressure point in my stomach it would stop. (haven't found it) but have just realized that bearing down helps alot.  

I also have severe hpermobile joints in my neck and back causing  pain, tight muscles etc. I also wonder if that is causing stress on my vagus. It does seem that the stress of worrying over it makes it worse  but so many times it just starts out of the blue which leads me to believe it is not self created.

I think if this is ever seriously studied that they will find this is the cause of many diagnose's of anxiety disorder which I think is the symptom not the cause of these horrible sensations.

I have  2 close friends who have the same problems so it is either more common or the stressful lives we live make it worse thus more noticeable.
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I went to my chriopractor today , I told him of my high BP reading and about this thread on the vagus nerve ,I asked if he knew of any on going studies on the vagus nerve , he is giing to look into it, I also did some reasearch on my own .The vagus nerve actually is the 10th crainal nerve it is one of the longest nerves in the body, you speak of your neck problems ,I also have cervical subluxation , my chrio, explaned to me that the vagus nerve passed thru the neck area , so any cervical neck problems  could very well disrupt the nerve and affect quite a few organs , my biggest problem is the effect it has on my blood pressure and pulse 210/102/92 the lurching , chills so hard I cannot get warm , I hear so many speak of the same symptions i have experienced ,but most of all I hear a need for relief , thank God these are seemling not heart related but the vagus nerve dose have 3 leads to the heart the stress and anxiety know matter how we try are there, also there surly is some toll on the body when we experience what we do , I am really intrested in this subject of the vagus nerve I will continue asking questions I am going to ask my dr. to really take an intrest I hope we can all get some
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This whole vagus nerve thing is extremely interesting.  I posted earlier about some of my symptoms and what I didn't mention before is that my identical twin brother also has exact similar symptoms as mine.  We both have small hiatal hernias, have been to countless doctors and never get anywhere.  We also have lower back pains, some upper leg pain and the big big kicker for both of us is the monkey jumps or gasps that we both have at night.  We are convinced that it is 100 % physical.  We are not anxious people no matter what the doctors say.  Have been on and off too many unneeded medications and seem to never have an exact diagnosis.  It always seems to be a mystery.  Having a twin to talk and experience this is great however we dont want to live with this forever.  We have analyzed and have noticed some observations that might be of interest. 1.  Too much sugar in our diets (always have liked it and lots of it.)
2.  Always eat (ate) too fast, gulping our foods and finished before everyone.
3. used to be a little bit overweight  10 to 20 Lbs (mainly in the stomach area where it sticks out a bit
4.  both have small hiatal hernias ( 2cms)
5. both have the sleep problem waking up with gasps and sometimes with unclarity.
6.  both have back pains that seem to wander; legs, upperback, shoulder etc
7.  both have always been active and sometimes wonder if excersice may effect us adversely
8.  moderate drinkers and big choclate and coffee freaks. (not anymore)
9.  Another theory (and i stress theory) we have is as we lose weight, we both discover that our problems increase for awhile.  We think this might be due to the stomach shrinkage causing more movement in the  somewhat damaged diagphram area where the vagus nerve could be pinched
... some of these are things in the past, but just trying to get information out there.
      We need to post as much info as we can.  Maybe if enough people with this problem can come together, we could get some sort of questionaire to all the sufferers, submit it to a doc who wants to do some research on the matter.  It just seems like no one is studying this bizaare **** that so many of us have in common.  We are in the process of going to the chiropractor.  I will continue to update this forum on our progress.  REMEMBER you are NOT CRAZY !!!!!!!!!!  This is a REAL CONDITION!!!!    How about a big find in 09
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I went to the doctor about stomach pain I have had 34 years.  On and off I had scans etc.  nothing ever found.  I often get eye spasms and spasms up my neck and the side of my face when my stomach tightens.  When I told him of this symptom he said it sounded like the vagus nerve and stress.  I am being scheduled to go to a gastro doctor and hope to explore this vagus nerve theory.  I also have kidney stones quite often as well as prostatitis.  My general practitioner has me on 40 mg of Prilosec and an antispasmodic.  I also take Lorazapam and Lexapro for the anxiety I get along with the continued pain.                 Sincerely ROn
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(second time trying to post this) This has been awesome finding other people with the same symptoms, I was started to think I was falling apart and I am only 41. I am currently being investigated for racing heart, skipping beats, light headedness, have to catch my breath, all this started about 2 months ago. For at least 2 years, I also have constant right ear pain, right throat pain, saw an ear doctor, and had ultrasound of neck, and all negative. Right shoulder pain, saw physio, right handed numbness and tingling. My eyes feel buggy and have had my prescription checked twice. Now reading this, I am seeing that the 20 pound weight loss, and the sleepless nights over the past two years might all be related. In the last 3-4 years, I have also had two episodes of feeling like I was having a heart attack.  They did ECG, but decided it was GERD, and prescribed Nexium. I also experience twitching in my right groin, had a right kidney stone and what feel like "sparks" going off just above my right ear, which sometime lead to a head ache.  My doctor is trying to figure out what it all means, but I have to admit, I am only putting this all together, and have now written this all down to bring it all to her attention. If it is this vagus nerve, and something is making it act up, then it is worth investigating. Again, this has been very helpful, and thank you all for sharing.
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Hello, I just came across this site looking for information on the vagas nerve and gastroparesis.  I have a condition called Fibromuscular Dysplasia, a disease of the arteries that can affect many different arteries.  I have the disease in 2 arteries leading to my stomach as well as my carotids.  The blockages in the stomach arteries caused severe gastro problems.  I spent several months seeing several docs in my hometown before going to Mayo Clinic - they diagnosed within 2 days. Unfortunately, the arteries were blocked for so long, I developed gastroparesis, so my stomach does not digest food properly or fast enough.  My new gastro doctor feels the vagas nerve was damaged by the blockages & caused the gastroparesis.  Gastroparesis can cause many of the symptoms you describe; it may be worth looking into. I had many of the same symptoms you discribe;  chest pain, heart palpitations, acid reflux, weight loss, inability to eat, constant abdominal pain, etc....

Good Luck to all of you, I hope you find your answers !  

SMHaven
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i have had very very similar experiences to yours...


can i ask you if youve found if certain foods bring on these symptoms more than others? or if alcohol affects any of you???

i have gotten 'anxiety' stamped on me numerous times --> i DO NOT HAVE ANXIETY... do these people not think you do not know what anxiety palpitions feel like by the time you are 27??! (my age).. i have had those since i was a KID before presentations... not when i accidently eat pasta made w/ vodka sauce/ eat spicy food / lift a 20 lb bag... ridiculous... i am sorry --> THEY must suffer anxiety themselves.. either that or be too stupid to throw around such a real term so lightly

my guess to why my heart condition is vagus nerve related is because i used to be bulimic when i was younger where i believe now would regularly cause wear and tear to the vagus nerve -- i have learned that eating alot/throwing up and gastro problems (laxative use) will aggravate it... i remember daily experiencing a fast heart rate and palpitations after eating alot and after throwing up along with anxiety... it went until one day i suppose my body couldnt take it anymore and my heart went nuts - up to 150 beats a minute/skipping beats/going crazy... since that day i havent been able to throw up/eat certain things (spicy food/alcohol/some dairy/etc)/burp excessively/smoke/overeat/get riled up or excited/lift heavy things and/or exercise w/o having very serious side effects ( high b/p or high heartrate w/ palps..)

i feel dead and alone and feel there must be some damage done there...


i experience other symptoms dissimilar to yours w/ the alcohol (cant have a sip w/o an attack) so obviously i have developed a sensitivity or a processing disorder where i cant filter the alcohol...


i do not know if the vagus nerve is the problem but because of the bulimia have been curious and ive been doing some digging on the topic and found that on some level this should tie into what is happening to me


it has been interesting reading your stories -- and helpful :)
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It so so exciting to find other people with the same symptoms!! I started having these symptoms 3 years ago after eating a large greasy meal (shepherd's pie) Had the thump thump feeling in my chest followed by my stomach in knots, light headedness, and immediate diarrhea and heart racing. I ended up losing 20 pounds because eating at night or overeating seemed to cause it. Then my doctor and I noticed that eating meat and greasy foods seemed to bring it on as well. She eventually decided it was my gall bladder which was filled with sludge and would explain the food correlation. However, it's never explained to me the weird spasm I get in my chest. I've since been a vegetarian, which seemed to stop the symptoms mostly, but I still get it every once in a while. Caffeine will immediately bring it on as well as alcohol.  Has anyone else had it relate to Gall Bladder before?

It truly seems diet related to me, when it's happening it feels like something is stuck in my stomach/intestines. Drinking carbonated beverages seems to help a lot. I get constipated sometimes, and that seems to trigger it as well. So something pinching on the vagus nerve makes a lot of sense.  

Thank you all so much for posting your experiences so I know I'm not going crazy!!
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