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Relentless Nightmare
I hv ulcerative colitis & on Pentasa 500mg since 2 yrs. Happily married but committed the greatest sins ever: Oct10 this year I went / my colleagues to Ger on business visit & went to Koln FKK, I had 2 escorts protected vaginal w/ no defects-unprotected oral/receiver only) - 2nd nite the same but w/ 1 French kiss 1-2 min. Nov17 I had shiver and hi fever & night sweat (shiver a couple of times -fever 1st day 40C and the second 2 days 38 & then gone-had a minor fever blister on my upper lip & gone after 2 days-afterwards & 4 a period of 10 days I felt tiredness (no swollen nodes, no diarrhea, no loss of weight, no nausea, no headache, no ulcers) on 27 of Nov I had trip also 2 Germany, that date I felt a bit hard to breathe so went to the doc(X-ray clear and gave me Senicod and Aerius since assumed it is bronchitis) On the plane my ear popping during take-off and landing.since I shaved my hair neck with a razor, I had a rash on my back neck-on z plane- wide around .5eachx6 (for 3 days). Nov30&Dec1 we also went to FKK in Ffurt and had the same as above w/o any French Kissing / oral protected. Anxiety up - I was still feeling weak during the trip due chest congestion &smoking around 22 cig per day. back on Dec2 I went to the doc regardin my chest and gave me Tavanic Antibio (1.5 pills/day for 6 days) along w/ Senicod & a CBC and Ferritin (both were normal). CBC similar to 2010 WBC 8.8 (up from 8.2). I resumed work w/ minor fatigue. Panic: yesterday 16th when I felt itchy & had very itchy pimples are pinky & almost .6 cm each (2 on my left wrist 3 at the waist & 2 on my feet. I checked my body and was shocked to death when I saw rash around17 pimples (reddish, small, and not itchy at all) upon my back (left side only spread in a 15cm diam - don't know when they occurred.
Q: what r the odds of HIV (evident symptoms but i was almost perfectly protected, or might I be one of the unluckiest 0.2% in the world. Thank you
Hi SunnyLee,
Hope all is well. For the first time I felt a bit positive today and your words melted like butter in my head. You are right, we should remain positive. Once I read a Tibetan saying: If a problem can be solved, then you don't have to worry about it. If a problem cannot be solved, then worrying is no good. It is now in God's hand and let's hope for the best. The only problem i am still facing is that I'm still waking up around 6 AM (sleeping around 6 hours lately / better than 4-5) but in a sweat. Probably due to anxiety... don't want to think of any symptom anymore, i'm so tired of thinking. we will focus on work and family and till then, God wills it.
Take care my friend
Hope all is well. For the first time I felt a bit positive today and your words melted like butter in my head. You are right, we should remain positive. Once I read a Tibetan saying: If a problem can be solved, then you don't have to worry about it. If a problem cannot be solved, then worrying is no good. It is now in God's hand and let's hope for the best. The only problem i am still facing is that I'm still waking up around 6 AM (sleeping around 6 hours lately / better than 4-5) but in a sweat. Probably due to anxiety... don't want to think of any symptom anymore, i'm so tired of thinking. we will focus on work and family and till then, God wills it.
Take care my friend
Hello Ronin,
How are you? Hope you had a good weekend.
Well, if meeting up the girl will make you feel better. I think you can.
But, from what you have told me, with her you have did protected oral sex and protected vaginal sex. And, furthermore, the condom remained intact. So, I would really think there's no risk from HIV from this. Don't you think so?
As for the condom is latex or not. It must be latex. Put it this way. The lady seems to be aware of the virus transmission through sex. That's the reason she wanted to use condom in the first place. And, nowadays, most of the condoms sold are made of latex. So, I really think there's really no risk from this event.
And, I'm getting better nowadays. Another 6 weeks to go for testing. I have been reading some positive websites lately. What I want to say is that, I believe eventually is the GOD's decision on how we going to die and what causes that.
I have read and heard from forums and my doctors that some couples have been in intercourse for few years. Despite the one of them is HIV positive, another one has not catch the virus. Wonders, you might say, but it's true.
And, then I read in another website, a local website from my country. He is a HIV positive person. And, apparently, he is someone that is working in mosque. A very holy person. So, drugs usage and sex (out marriage) is totally out! But he did go for an operation previously. He suspected that might caused HIV positive. But he is unsure on what is the cause, actually.
So, you see my friend. The virus transmission is not something concrete or firm. Some people suppose to get by definition of transmission risk but they did not. And, some people is quite impossible to get, but they did.
So, I would say luck plays important role and so does GOD's decision.
I think now, both of us should have learnt from our mistakes. And, we have changed.
Moving forward, we shall just wait for the 12 weeks mark, which is getting near as days passed by.
It's enough for us to realize the risks from our exposures are low. Some doctors would even put as ZERO.
So, we shall just wait and pray and hope. Nothing much else can be done.
And, both of us should try to not to think too much about it.
Ya, these are traumatic events in our lives. You know what, if both of us tested HIV negative after 12 weeks mark, which I'm quite confident to say so. Probably, you know, we shall meet up, man. Who knows, if you make a visit to my country or I make a visit to your country. Or we will meet up in other countries.
That's all man. Take care.
How are you? Hope you had a good weekend.
Well, if meeting up the girl will make you feel better. I think you can.
But, from what you have told me, with her you have did protected oral sex and protected vaginal sex. And, furthermore, the condom remained intact. So, I would really think there's no risk from HIV from this. Don't you think so?
As for the condom is latex or not. It must be latex. Put it this way. The lady seems to be aware of the virus transmission through sex. That's the reason she wanted to use condom in the first place. And, nowadays, most of the condoms sold are made of latex. So, I really think there's really no risk from this event.
And, I'm getting better nowadays. Another 6 weeks to go for testing. I have been reading some positive websites lately. What I want to say is that, I believe eventually is the GOD's decision on how we going to die and what causes that.
I have read and heard from forums and my doctors that some couples have been in intercourse for few years. Despite the one of them is HIV positive, another one has not catch the virus. Wonders, you might say, but it's true.
And, then I read in another website, a local website from my country. He is a HIV positive person. And, apparently, he is someone that is working in mosque. A very holy person. So, drugs usage and sex (out marriage) is totally out! But he did go for an operation previously. He suspected that might caused HIV positive. But he is unsure on what is the cause, actually.
So, you see my friend. The virus transmission is not something concrete or firm. Some people suppose to get by definition of transmission risk but they did not. And, some people is quite impossible to get, but they did.
So, I would say luck plays important role and so does GOD's decision.
I think now, both of us should have learnt from our mistakes. And, we have changed.
Moving forward, we shall just wait for the 12 weeks mark, which is getting near as days passed by.
It's enough for us to realize the risks from our exposures are low. Some doctors would even put as ZERO.
So, we shall just wait and pray and hope. Nothing much else can be done.
And, both of us should try to not to think too much about it.
Ya, these are traumatic events in our lives. You know what, if both of us tested HIV negative after 12 weeks mark, which I'm quite confident to say so. Probably, you know, we shall meet up, man. Who knows, if you make a visit to my country or I make a visit to your country. Or we will meet up in other countries.
That's all man. Take care.
Hi my friend, sorry I had no connection for the last couple of days. Sorry got a bit drifted... you were wiser to get tested only on the 3rd month because I almost fainted from the time I took the 5-week test till the result which took place the next day. since then, though I felt a bit of relief the first day, I started imagining some stuff: on the 10th-11th-12th of Jan some recurrent mild fevers, 3 times per day and around 37.7 degrees each for around 20 minutes then said to my self due to lack of sleep, lack of water, and extreme stress. On the 6th of Jan I noticed some tiny spots and my chest (brown) and my wife said they have always been there since no time, then yesterday (Jan. 14th) I noticed light brown blotches on my upper back.. I always had multiple brown blotches on my back but not sure that they were that large (around 9 with 0.6cm in diameter)... The good news is that the virologist confirmed a couple of days ago that the test I took on Jan. 4th was Antibody and Antigen test 3rd generation. But after suspecting such blotches, spots, recurrent mild fever, I panic got elevated assuming that the antibodies are now taking place and would have been delayed due to UC/Pentasa... and now I am panicking about what might come next within the next few days (lymphnodes, headache, or so)> I know my brain might trigger them but as if I am waiting for them to occur. What the hell is going on with us SunnyLee, though things might look bright and though the doctors (2 Derma, 3 General Doctors, and Dr. Cummings) do highly believe I don't have it and most of the symptoms are triggered by stress (psychosomatic), I am still living it till date as if I have it and planning what to do next. sorry for comparing my situation to yours and you are always right. by the way, I have another business trip to Germany on the 28th of Jan till 31st and will ask my GM to extend for one day through which I am planning to visit the girl whom I suspect most (brief: on the 30th of Nov. in Frankfurt I was a bit sick out of bronchitis and Jet Lags with 2 hours sleep and my colleague insisted on going out to get laid and I kept on informing him that I need a rest but he kept on insisting and gave me a pill (viagra-like), half dragged we went to the red light district next to the Central Station... I went to the first blg, first floor, tired enough, went into a room where there was an average girl from Columbia, she gave me a protected blow job and protected vaginal sex (though condom used properly and no defect, when we finished I saw that her vagina rim was dark red but dry, don't know what it is (the next day we went to a first class FKK had 3 protected vaginal an 1 unprotected BJ but not worried about that place though risk is higher due to BJ)> regarding the Nov. 30th, the what ifs occurred: maybe the condom wasn't latex, maybe my testicles touched her vagina rim...... however, I will visit her at the end of this month and will ask her for reassurance.. and will never even hold a girl's hand anymore, swear to God. Sorry for sharing with you such details but your input will be highly appreciated..... and sorry for you being the listener most of the time... Hope we cross paths in the future after our 'crossed-fingers negative result'.
Thanks my friend,
Thanks my friend,
Hey Ronin,
Some typo errors there...:)
What I meant to say is:
All the doctors that I have went through here in my country told me that, in their experiences as doctors (trust me, one doctor is near 70 this year), they have never seen any person that tested NEGATIVE at 3 months later positive at 6 months. Even globally, there only very very very few people that have been like that.
Now, let me tell you...I DO NOT BELIEVE you and me are belong to that category.
Sorry for typo errors. You don't mind a bit of joke right in this time of uncertainties and stress. Hehe
Some typo errors there...:)
What I meant to say is:
All the doctors that I have went through here in my country told me that, in their experiences as doctors (trust me, one doctor is near 70 this year), they have never seen any person that tested NEGATIVE at 3 months later positive at 6 months. Even globally, there only very very very few people that have been like that.
Now, let me tell you...I DO NOT BELIEVE you and me are belong to that category.
Sorry for typo errors. You don't mind a bit of joke right in this time of uncertainties and stress. Hehe
Hi Ronin,
Actually I have never tested at 7 weeks. No. I'm waiting for my 12 weeks mark also, as what my doctor has advised me.
Like I said Ronin, it's totally pointless anymore to even compare your exposure with mine or anyone else. It's total pointless.
You see, you said your exposure is higher risk than others. Let me ask you, what if from your both first and second exposure, the ladies are not HIV positive, they are clear? Now compare with a situation from another person (imaginary person), he is having the least risk of sexual activity with a confirmed HIV infected person? Now, which situation you would rather be in? I think you would rather be in your situation, right?
So, I think it is pointless to compare. I'm trying to live my days until my 12 weeks mark in a way I don't want to compare and I don't want to even assess the risks anymore.
Your last exposure was November 30. So you can test at 23 February 2012. That's another 6 weeks to go. Time flies, my friend. At least that's what I'm telling myself everyday.
Ronin, I'm not a doctor but I really do not think your Ulcerative Colitis will effect the window period. 12 weeks is confirmed!
All the doctors that I have went through here in my country told me that, in their experiences as doctors (trust me, one doctor is near 70 this year), they have never seen any person that tested positive later negative at 6 months. Even globally, there only very very very few people that have been like that.
Now, let me tell you...I DO NOT BELIEVE you and me are belong to the category.
That's all from me now man...Take Care
Actually I have never tested at 7 weeks. No. I'm waiting for my 12 weeks mark also, as what my doctor has advised me.
Like I said Ronin, it's totally pointless anymore to even compare your exposure with mine or anyone else. It's total pointless.
You see, you said your exposure is higher risk than others. Let me ask you, what if from your both first and second exposure, the ladies are not HIV positive, they are clear? Now compare with a situation from another person (imaginary person), he is having the least risk of sexual activity with a confirmed HIV infected person? Now, which situation you would rather be in? I think you would rather be in your situation, right?
So, I think it is pointless to compare. I'm trying to live my days until my 12 weeks mark in a way I don't want to compare and I don't want to even assess the risks anymore.
Your last exposure was November 30. So you can test at 23 February 2012. That's another 6 weeks to go. Time flies, my friend. At least that's what I'm telling myself everyday.
Ronin, I'm not a doctor but I really do not think your Ulcerative Colitis will effect the window period. 12 weeks is confirmed!
All the doctors that I have went through here in my country told me that, in their experiences as doctors (trust me, one doctor is near 70 this year), they have never seen any person that tested positive later negative at 6 months. Even globally, there only very very very few people that have been like that.
Now, let me tell you...I DO NOT BELIEVE you and me are belong to the category.
That's all from me now man...Take Care
Hi my friend,
I believe that your result will turn out to be negative, lesser exposure than mine, probably lesser symptoms, and you had a test at 7 weeks (better odds). I will pray for you as well. I am currently following your advice of testing at 3 months and not before but I read if I have a kind of disease - in my case Ulcerative Colitis - than might take longer and for how long, I don't know and don't want to spend the year getting one test after another.
Exposure one: on Oct 10/11. and exposure two on Nov.30/Dec. 1 - If i had it then it might be during second exposure ... can't express my feelings... going int tears like a baby... sorry gotta go, can't control it for now
I believe that your result will turn out to be negative, lesser exposure than mine, probably lesser symptoms, and you had a test at 7 weeks (better odds). I will pray for you as well. I am currently following your advice of testing at 3 months and not before but I read if I have a kind of disease - in my case Ulcerative Colitis - than might take longer and for how long, I don't know and don't want to spend the year getting one test after another.
Exposure one: on Oct 10/11. and exposure two on Nov.30/Dec. 1 - If i had it then it might be during second exposure ... can't express my feelings... going int tears like a baby... sorry gotta go, can't control it for now
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