Licking vaginal fluids on breast

[CXDXRX]

Dear Doctor,

hi how things Doctor,

i am sorry to repeat the same question which i posted in HIV Prevention Community forum,

i went to massage parlor 22 days ago, after finished she offers me  to give  the hand job,

during hand job i rubbed her vagina no fingering only outer area of her vagina,i didn't feel my finger wet (the room is not so bright),

after that i rubbed her breast with the same hand then i licked her breast,

after i ejaculated, i rinsed my mouth with mineral water to cleanse my mouth,

my fear

1. i licked her breast, can i get hiv from this activity

2. if there any vagina fluids on her breast which coming from my finger and i lick it, can i get hiv from this activity

3. i have a damage wisdom tooth when i rinsed my mouth with mineral water, if there vaginal fluids on my tongue can i get hiv from this activity

4. after all message activity i soaked in the bathtub which is filled with warm water, can i get hiv if vaginal fluids on my finger mixed into water in bathtub

i have tested using elisa method in 17 days after the incident and the result is nonreactive,
i have got swollen pain lymph on my right groin and armpits and  got running nose,

is my elisa test valid and do i need 3 months test further, I am very anxious Doctor


Best Regards
CXDXRX

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

No comment -- see above. Your test result is valid.

[CXDXRX]

Dear Doctor,

I have received our combo test  today (i and the terapist), I ask her to got the hiv test and she aggree to got it with me yesterday, it is 28 days(4 weeks) from the explosure, and our test are nonreactive, we made test at clinic in Jakarta indonesia, please would you give me an last advice for our results Doctor

Best Regards
CXDXRX  

  

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Yes, it's a 4th generation test and is valid at 4 weeks.

That will end this thread.  I won't have any further comments.

[CXDXRX]

Doctor, the clinic tells me the use ab/ag combo abott cmia, is it 4 generation

[CXDXRX]

Thanks for your reponse Doctor,
But I will go to test to clear my anxienty, just for make sure, need advice Doctor, is ab ag combo test valid in 4 weeks or I have to wait till 5 weeks

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Swallowing blood or infected fluids carries little HIV risk. The virus isn't even by direct oral sex, i.e. mouth-vaginal contact.

Really, stop worrying about this event.  There is no way you caught HIV.  

[CXDXRX]

Dear Doctor,

Thank you so much Doctor for your advice, might be I can ask you many questions again, since my worry make me sick,
Assume there is small bloods from her breast or from her vaginal fluids, can I get hiv from it

Best Regards
CXDXRX  

[H. Hunter Handsfield, M.D.]

Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.

You had accurate replies in the community forum.  HIV is not transmitted sexually except by intercourse; if a bare penis (no condom) does not enter another person's vagina or rectum, there is no risk.  HIV absolutely cannot be transmitted by the sorts of contact you have described here.

Therefore, the answers to questions 1-4 are the same:  No!

HIV doesn't cause a runny nose, and it doesn't cause pain in the groin or armpits.  (The inflamed lymph nodes with HIV usually are painless.)

Based on this exposure and your symptoms, you did not need HIV testing.  However, a standard ELISA test is around 60% reliable at 17 days.  If you want to have a conclusive test, have another ELISA at 6-8 weeks, or a combo test (for both HIV antibody and antigen) at 4 weeks.  Below is a thread that discusses the time required for conclusive testing, depending on which test (or combination of tests) is done:

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/1891685

So all is well.  You could not have caught HIV.  Don't be worried at all.

HHH, MD