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Serious Symptoms and Risk! Very scared!
Current symptoms:
- two very swollen lymph node (size of large bean) sticking out in middle of right neck. (started 10th week)
- 100% white fur tongue (started 5th week and getting worse)
- yellow discharge from eyes and got diagnosed with bacteria conjunctivitis due to weaken immune (10th week)
- 3 large ulcer along with few smaller ones under bottom lip (10th week)
- red dotted rash, appear raised or inside the skin (ongoing)
- brown flat non-itchy rash on neck and arm (started 9th week)
- white powder, dry and cracked lips (never had this before in life)
- sore throat with spumtum, low fever (randomly appears)
- heavy night sweats (every night)
- the need to go toilet after eat food (never had stomach issues in my life)
- always feel tired and sleepy
- tingles and numbness in my arms and legs (started 5th week)
After 43day test result me and girlfriend had unprotected sex. Also in the first week of exposure during her period i ejacuated inside of her two times. Two weeks ago, she is starting to have symptoms of red dotted itchy rash, white tongue, sore throat with sputum, diarrehea, random coughing, fatigue and numbness.
Concerns are:
1) When sample was taken, the nurse used a large syringe to gather blood and then later ejected the blood to small tubes. The blood may have come in contact with air. Also the test was performed 30+ hours after collection. Will any of that make HIV die and not appear in Plasma PCR.
2) Could this be a rare HIV subtype.. I know Plasma PCR dosnt detect subtype I-K and P. What are the chances?
3) My major concern is that my symptoms are of HIV 2. Since HIV-2 symptoms are on and off, and also it seroconverts alot later than HIV-1.
4) What are you recommendations, and any other tests can be done besides AG/AB?
Something must be wrong coz my lymphocytes dropped 39% and my girlfriend have same symptoms.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
"I don't know what to do now...."
That's the easy part. Work with your GP to find the cause of your symptoms, including testing for HIV types 1 and 2. If your GP is not an HIV or infectious disesaes expert, ask for referral to one -- or just visit the sexual health centre. HIV-2 is easy to diagnose -- tests are easily available that do not take extra time to become positive. The SHC will know how to do it.
That will end this thread. There's nothing more I can do or suggest.
That's the easy part. Work with your GP to find the cause of your symptoms, including testing for HIV types 1 and 2. If your GP is not an HIV or infectious disesaes expert, ask for referral to one -- or just visit the sexual health centre. HIV-2 is easy to diagnose -- tests are easily available that do not take extra time to become positive. The SHC will know how to do it.
That will end this thread. There's nothing more I can do or suggest.
Hi Doctor,
The girl i managed to get her to confess... shes got HIV2 for nearly a year and has not started mediciation...
My lymph have got worse and more painful. I went to GP and they find enlarged lymph nodes under my neck (left side) and also above collar (both side). All those areas are painful and sting feeling even when im sleep. My fever have also gone up.
I searched online on several gov sites that HIV2 develop antibodies later than HIV1 and the window period is from 3~6 month...
I dont know what to do now....
The girl i managed to get her to confess... shes got HIV2 for nearly a year and has not started mediciation...
My lymph have got worse and more painful. I went to GP and they find enlarged lymph nodes under my neck (left side) and also above collar (both side). All those areas are painful and sting feeling even when im sleep. My fever have also gone up.
I searched online on several gov sites that HIV2 develop antibodies later than HIV1 and the window period is from 3~6 month...
I dont know what to do now....
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Self assessement of lymph nodes by medical nonprofessionals is notoriously unreliable and there is a lot in your description that makes me skeptical your nodes are abnormal. Even if they are, HIV never causes lymph node enlargement without other symptoms; "mild headache and feel slight feverish" doesn't count. For sure you aren't "gonna die this time".
Feel free to report the findings after your SHC visit and any additional testing they suggest; but don't post anything else until then. In the meantime, settle down. Given your blood test results so far, here is no way you have HIV.
Feel free to report the findings after your SHC visit and any additional testing they suggest; but don't post anything else until then. In the meantime, settle down. Given your blood test results so far, here is no way you have HIV.
Hi Doctor
I've booked a visit to SHC next Monday and i should get my result on Tuesday.
Can you please help me... The girl have told me that shes HIV+...
The most important thing is that from 4 days ago i start to have alot of swollen lymph in my neck.
I found them out by having my chin down, and then gently touch the fat thats squeezed out under my jaw (im a skinny person)..
I found like 5 large pill size nodes, and then two days later the ones in right are gone. Now im left with 2~3 swollen nodes in the left size that are painful when not touched.. also i can feel them slightly beating like a heart...
Now i have mild headache and feel slight feverish..
I think im gonna die this time... i called my doctor and shes worried about my swollen lymph and fever, she said those are risky symptoms... Is that true?..
I've booked a visit to SHC next Monday and i should get my result on Tuesday.
Can you please help me... The girl have told me that shes HIV+...
The most important thing is that from 4 days ago i start to have alot of swollen lymph in my neck.
I found them out by having my chin down, and then gently touch the fat thats squeezed out under my jaw (im a skinny person)..
I found like 5 large pill size nodes, and then two days later the ones in right are gone. Now im left with 2~3 swollen nodes in the left size that are painful when not touched.. also i can feel them slightly beating like a heart...
Now i have mild headache and feel slight feverish..
I think im gonna die this time... i called my doctor and shes worried about my swollen lymph and fever, she said those are risky symptoms... Is that true?..
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
This information doesn't change my opinion or advice. I continue to doubt that HIV explains your sympotms.
1) I have never seen this. It probably never happens.
2) There is no such thing as HIV seroconversion starting 10 weeks after cathing the virus.
3) I agree you are likely to have a viral infection -- although not primarily on the basis of your lymphocyte count.
Stop screwing around and see an expert, preferably the SHC. I won't have any further advice unless and until you have done that.
1) I have never seen this. It probably never happens.
2) There is no such thing as HIV seroconversion starting 10 weeks after cathing the virus.
3) I agree you are likely to have a viral infection -- although not primarily on the basis of your lymphocyte count.
Stop screwing around and see an expert, preferably the SHC. I won't have any further advice unless and until you have done that.
Hi Doctor,
Thank you for your reply and reassurance. I'll visit one of the clinic soon.
The weird thing is that all my symptoms are quite bad.. my lymph are more swollen and im starting to have headache&dizzy and makes me want to vomit today... The rash is getting better, im not getting as much new rash appearing.
My girlfriend she's not anxious at all and seriously believe she dosnt have HIV, but she still have most of my symptoms.. And this got me really worried.... i wonder what would explain it besides late seroconversion or HIV 2 (since PCR plasma they only tested me for HIV-1).
Im seeing more cases of people turned positive after 6 weeks online, but im not sure if it was 3rd or 4th gen test.
Sorry, to keep it short..
1) Have you seen any 4th gen test turn positive after 6 weeks? How many..
2) I think the only explanation for all these weird symptoms is that my seroconversion started late in week 10. So for the first couple of week, my body was busy dealing with new Herpes 1 virus that i caught. Therefore sero was delayed... is that likely?
3) Since my lymphocytes cell did drop by 39% and now i have very bad swollen glands, night sweat, feel vomiting.. which means 100% i have a viral infection and its been going on for 11 weeks. So should i take some antibiotics to be safe?
Many Thanks..
Thank you for your reply and reassurance. I'll visit one of the clinic soon.
The weird thing is that all my symptoms are quite bad.. my lymph are more swollen and im starting to have headache&dizzy and makes me want to vomit today... The rash is getting better, im not getting as much new rash appearing.
My girlfriend she's not anxious at all and seriously believe she dosnt have HIV, but she still have most of my symptoms.. And this got me really worried.... i wonder what would explain it besides late seroconversion or HIV 2 (since PCR plasma they only tested me for HIV-1).
Im seeing more cases of people turned positive after 6 weeks online, but im not sure if it was 3rd or 4th gen test.
Sorry, to keep it short..
1) Have you seen any 4th gen test turn positive after 6 weeks? How many..
2) I think the only explanation for all these weird symptoms is that my seroconversion started late in week 10. So for the first couple of week, my body was busy dealing with new Herpes 1 virus that i caught. Therefore sero was delayed... is that likely?
3) Since my lymphocytes cell did drop by 39% and now i have very bad swollen glands, night sweat, feel vomiting.. which means 100% i have a viral infection and its been going on for 11 weeks. So should i take some antibiotics to be safe?
Many Thanks..
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Done before I replied above.
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Welcome to the forum. Thanks for your question.
Your test results are completely reliable and prove you don't have HIV. The notion of HIV "rare types" -- either HIV-1 or HIV-2 -- that don't test positive with the current standard tests is an urban myth. If and when such strains evolve, they will first show up in the parts of Africa where HIV first evolved, i.e. interior tropical Africa, Cameroon, etc. And contrary to what you have read on line or elsewhere, your symptoms are not suggestive of ARS. To your specific questions:
1) These procedures are normal and have no effect on HIV test reliability.
2) No chance, at least not enough to worry about. Either antibody testing or and DNA testing by PCR will detect all HIV strains present in North America, Europe and (I'm quite sure) Australia.
3) The symptoms of overt AIDS, i.e. late stages of HIV infection, tend to be milder than HIV-1. But there is no significant difference in symptoms of ARS, or in continuous versus intermittent symptoms. In any case, your test results prove HIV is not the cause of your symptoms -- which as I said above are not typcial for ARS anyway. It seems you are the victim of too much internet searching.
4) My advice? If your symptoms persist or you otherwise remain concerned, get the world class care available to you by visiting the Sydney Sexual Health Centre. Australia's SHCs are, collectively, the world's best network of STD/HIV prevention and care clinics, hands down. And Sydney's is the best of the best (along with Melbourne's). I'm confident they will reassure you in much the way I have tried to do. (Print out this thread and bring it with you as a framework for discussion.) Whatever they recommend, you can trust it.
Regards-- HHH, MD
Your test results are completely reliable and prove you don't have HIV. The notion of HIV "rare types" -- either HIV-1 or HIV-2 -- that don't test positive with the current standard tests is an urban myth. If and when such strains evolve, they will first show up in the parts of Africa where HIV first evolved, i.e. interior tropical Africa, Cameroon, etc. And contrary to what you have read on line or elsewhere, your symptoms are not suggestive of ARS. To your specific questions:
1) These procedures are normal and have no effect on HIV test reliability.
2) No chance, at least not enough to worry about. Either antibody testing or and DNA testing by PCR will detect all HIV strains present in North America, Europe and (I'm quite sure) Australia.
3) The symptoms of overt AIDS, i.e. late stages of HIV infection, tend to be milder than HIV-1. But there is no significant difference in symptoms of ARS, or in continuous versus intermittent symptoms. In any case, your test results prove HIV is not the cause of your symptoms -- which as I said above are not typcial for ARS anyway. It seems you are the victim of too much internet searching.
4) My advice? If your symptoms persist or you otherwise remain concerned, get the world class care available to you by visiting the Sydney Sexual Health Centre. Australia's SHCs are, collectively, the world's best network of STD/HIV prevention and care clinics, hands down. And Sydney's is the best of the best (along with Melbourne's). I'm confident they will reassure you in much the way I have tried to do. (Print out this thread and bring it with you as a framework for discussion.) Whatever they recommend, you can trust it.
Regards-- HHH, MD
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http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Serious-Symptoms-and-High-Risk/show/2027737
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